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live love laugh

(15,973 posts)
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 05:59 PM Thursday

The daughter of my friend's s/o was the victim in a murder/suicide yesterday

Her mate killed her as she tried to leave him. Years ago I had an employee who killed his wife then himself. Growing up I saw domestic violence firsthand. Black eyes hidden behind dark sunglasses, broken arms … The worst part is that it often happens in front of and sometimes directly to innocent children who are often orphaned or otherwise traumatized sometimes for life. It really should be called domestic terrorism.

Recently Trump downplayed domestic violence as a “lesser“ crime to fluff up the success rate of his DC invasion with troops and feds.

He complained that domestic violence was being counted in the crime statistics, which he claimed meant that the influence of his policy was not being seen as significant enough. “They said, ‘Crime’s down 87%,’” the president claimed, not explaining who “they” were. “I said, no, no, no. It’s more than 87%, virtually nothing. And much lesser things, things that take place in the home they call crime. You know, they’ll do anything they can to find something. If a man has a little fight with the wife, they say this was a crime. See? So now I can’t claim 100%, but we are. We are a safe city.”

The Trump administration has moved to drastically cut federal grants to domestic violence non-profits, which rely heavily on the federal government for funding. The administration has further sought to freeze funding to domestic violence charities that serve trans women victims and participate in diversity, equity and inclusion programming, severely hampering the work of groups that seek to serve marginalized victims from LGBTQ+ or racial minority populations, or to frame domestic violence as a gender justice issue. The administration has also moved to condition domestic violence funding on charities’ willingness to hand over abused women to Ice, a move that would severely limit the ability of undocumented victims to seek help.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/09/trump-domestic-violence

We know Trump’s also a domestic abuser. Most weak men are. (The phenomenon must be rampant in MAGA land.) I hope his efforts to downplay this scourge are reversed asap.

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The daughter of my friend's s/o was the victim in a murder/suicide yesterday (Original Post) live love laugh Thursday OP
This is tragic. yellow dahlia Thursday #1
Terrible Starbeach Thursday #2
That is horrific. My heart goes out to your friend's significant other and family. LoisB Thursday #3
I am so sorry. essaynnc Thursday #4
I am so sorry Jilly_in_VA Thursday #5
a friend back in my hometown did this. mopinko Thursday #6
I'm so sorry. chowder66 Thursday #7
K & R malaise Thursday #8
My condolences 😞 MustLoveBeagles Thursday #9
That's terrible. I'm very sorry to hear it. NNadir Thursday #10
It leaves deep scars BeneteauBum Thursday #11
❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹 live love laugh Thursday #13
You are so right - Chump has politicized domestic violence in order to get "better" numbers FakeNoose Thursday #12
I'm sorry cate94 Thursday #14
I lost one of my two best friends in high school that way Warpy Thursday #15
I had a friend whose spouce was abusing her sporatically. applegrove Friday #16

yellow dahlia

(3,467 posts)
1. This is tragic.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 06:05 PM
Thursday

I am so sorry you had to share this story.

And meanwhile, resources to help those in need are being eliminated.

Jilly_in_VA

(13,258 posts)
5. I am so sorry
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 06:50 PM
Thursday

This is the most dangerous time, when a person tries to leave a partner, particularly if they are abusive and/or have a gun. It's why domestic violence shelters don't publish their addresses.

Many years ago I helped a friend leave her abusive husband. Neither one of us had much money but I gave her what little I could. She drove to Knoxville and sold her car for cash, took a bus to California with her kids, and went under the radar. She couldn't even work as a nurse because her husband could have traced her by her license. I told her to contact me to let me know she was safe but not to let me know where she was in case he called me, so I could truthfully say I didn't know. He did call me a couple of times but I could tell him without lying that I didn't know where she was. I think she eventually was able to get a divorce but I really don't know. In any case, he eventually died of alcoholism.

mopinko

(73,058 posts)
6. a friend back in my hometown did this.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 07:07 PM
Thursday

he was divorced and took it very, very hard. he was such a nice guy. wd do anything for his friends. he rly made an effort to move on. i knew him from the show lounge where i worked. he learned to dance, worked at having fun.
he found a gf, and was getting better. but he figured out she was about to dump him.
he put on his duck hunting suit, laid in the weeds outside her apt, w his rifle. when she came home, at 2 am, he shot her then himself. probably the biggest funeral the town had ever seen. everyone blamed themselves.
this just created a wave of damage.

NNadir

(36,734 posts)
10. That's terrible. I'm very sorry to hear it.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 08:37 PM
Thursday

Many years ago, I had to work pretty hard to convince my sister-in-law to break out of a domestic abuse situation. Happily she did leave before it got that bad.

BeneteauBum

(243 posts)
11. It leaves deep scars
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 08:48 PM
Thursday

I was orphaned seventy years ago at the age of four under the same circumstances. You never forget the horror of watching your mother then your father die. I’ve never adjusted to become a ‘normal’ person…..just cope the best way you can.
Peace ☮️

FakeNoose

(38,965 posts)
12. You are so right - Chump has politicized domestic violence in order to get "better" numbers
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 08:49 PM
Thursday

First of all, I'm so sorry for what happened to your friend's daughter. What a horrible thing to happen to any extended family. Of course their children will be traumatized for life over this, and that is doubly horrible.

But the simple fact is that ANY municipal police force in any large city - not just Washington DC - cringes over 911 calls involving domestic violence. The police hate to cover those types of calls, even though it's their job, and lives depend on quick action.

It's 99.9% the guy (husband/boyfriend/whatever) who is threatening the woman/wife/girlfriend and the chances are high that it will morph into danger and violence. Sometimes an officer gets shot or killed. The guy might be drinking or on drugs, and he probably has a gun. Handling those situations is always dicey, and the police know it.

For Chump to turn this kind of dangerous situation into political fluff is stupid and short-sighted.

Warpy

(114,017 posts)
15. I lost one of my two best friends in high school that way
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 09:16 PM
Thursday

Her STBX sweet talked her into coming over to talk about the divorce, murdered her and then shot himself. She was 21.

There is no way to make sense of something like this. There are just too many males out there who think they can own other human beings. They refuse to change and male religion backs them up.

Because of that, I'm not a bit surprised that the present administration minimizes domestic violence and its effect on families. They don't see women as human.

I am sorry for anyone who survives this. I know how it feels.

applegrove

(128,699 posts)
16. I had a friend whose spouce was abusing her sporatically.
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 01:51 AM
Friday

We went to the police and they said since the police force was in the suburbs the most serious crimes were domestic abuse. They took that as serious as anything. I can't imagine a world where that is not the case for many women.

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