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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Conservative Justices Are Not Even Bothering to Tell This Lie Anymore - Balls and Strikes
Balls and StrikesTraditionally, when asked in public settings to talk about how they do their jobs, Supreme Court justices have spent a lot of time extolling the virtues of stare decisisthe principle that judges follow precedent when deciding new cases, in order to promote stability in the law across courts and over time. Stare decisis is a foundational part of the American legal system, so Supreme Court justices, who have spent their lives rising to the very top of that system, are expected to treat it with an appropriate amount of reverence.
In particular, the justices are supposed to express staunch disapproval of the notion that the Court would (or should) overturn precedent simply because five members think the prior decision is wrong. In a 1991 opinion, then-Chief Justice William Rehnquist lauded stare decisis for promoting the evenhanded, predictable, and consistent development of legal principles, and contributing to the actual and perceived integrity of the judicial process. Upholding precedent, he continued, is usually the wise policy, because, in most matters, it is more important that the applicable rule of law be settled than it be settled right.
In comments last month at Catholic Universitys Columbus School of Law, Justice Clarence Thomas came very, very close to dropping this charade altogether. At some point, we need to think about what were doing with stare decisis, he said. Its not some sort of talismanic deal where you can just say stare decisis and not thinkturn off the brain, right? If a result is totally stupid, he continued, you dont go along with it just because its decided.
Thomas was careful to note that he still gives perspective to precedent. But he also said he doesnt think precedent is the gospel, and he analogized judges who overemphasize stare decisis to train passengers who are unaware that if they were to check the engine room, they would find its an orangutan driving. In Thomass view, to be worth upholding, Supreme Court precedent must be respectful of our legal tradition, and our country, and our laws, and be based on somethingnot just something somebody dreamt up and others went along with.
In particular, the justices are supposed to express staunch disapproval of the notion that the Court would (or should) overturn precedent simply because five members think the prior decision is wrong. In a 1991 opinion, then-Chief Justice William Rehnquist lauded stare decisis for promoting the evenhanded, predictable, and consistent development of legal principles, and contributing to the actual and perceived integrity of the judicial process. Upholding precedent, he continued, is usually the wise policy, because, in most matters, it is more important that the applicable rule of law be settled than it be settled right.
In comments last month at Catholic Universitys Columbus School of Law, Justice Clarence Thomas came very, very close to dropping this charade altogether. At some point, we need to think about what were doing with stare decisis, he said. Its not some sort of talismanic deal where you can just say stare decisis and not thinkturn off the brain, right? If a result is totally stupid, he continued, you dont go along with it just because its decided.
Thomas was careful to note that he still gives perspective to precedent. But he also said he doesnt think precedent is the gospel, and he analogized judges who overemphasize stare decisis to train passengers who are unaware that if they were to check the engine room, they would find its an orangutan driving. In Thomass view, to be worth upholding, Supreme Court precedent must be respectful of our legal tradition, and our country, and our laws, and be based on somethingnot just something somebody dreamt up and others went along with.
The conservative justices who used to extol the virtues of upholding Supreme Court precedent are getting way, way more comfortable talking about how they have the votes to do whatever they want
— Jay Willis (@jaywillis.net) 2025-10-09T17:15:58.810Z
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The Conservative Justices Are Not Even Bothering to Tell This Lie Anymore - Balls and Strikes (Original Post)
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Blues Heron
(7,779 posts)1. This asshole takes bribes
Volaris
(11,143 posts)6. THOSE ARE CALLED TIPS!!
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(55,689 posts)2. I hope these words are quoted often
In post-trump majority opinions overturning his and his reich-wing colleagues' decisions....
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(6,114 posts)4. Whores they are
Volaris
(11,143 posts)5. Eventually, trump will get around to asking them to overturn Marbury.
Roberts hasn't yet realized that it's tough to call balls and strikes when one of the teams is trying to set the stadium on fire...