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ihaveaquestion

(4,170 posts)
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 09:12 AM Thursday

The Real Reason Trump Wants To Invade Chicago and Portland - @RBReich



Trump wants to invoke the Insurrection Act to punish anyone who opposes him, and he’s following a four point plan to do it.

Here’s what you need to know about it — and some thoughts on how to respond.
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The Real Reason Trump Wants To Invade Chicago and Portland - @RBReich (Original Post) ihaveaquestion Thursday OP
Three minutes long... 2naSalit Thursday #1
To the point and concise. Prairie_Seagull Thursday #2
It is too late to remain peaceful. The Grand Illuminist Thursday #3
Disagree.nt delisen Thursday #5
I respect that. The Grand Illuminist Thursday #6
Nope, sorry, disagree. Stay peaceful, resist, and raise hell, but stay alive and vocal and out of jail. Timeflyer Thursday #7
Then we fail. The Grand Illuminist Thursday #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Thursday #11
Go away, please. hunter Thursday #15
Doing anything against MAGA civilians... Chemical Bill Thursday #18
the heritage foundation and fox news will Submariner Thursday #4
It was proven that popsdenver Thursday #13
He will never be loved, respected or even 1% of the man President Obama is! kimbutgar Thursday #9
If Obama really wanted to piss Trump off popsdenver Thursday #14
Oh I wouldn't pass him to do that in the near future as he loses it even more as his dementia worsens kimbutgar Thursday #16
You are probably right popsdenver Thursday #19
But he doesn't answer why trump wants to punish. That's not his main goal. His punishment is the MEANS to his MAIN goal ancianita Thursday #10
I admire Reich popsdenver Thursday #12
There is a silent movement rising. The Grand Illuminist Friday #20
I'm of two minds here. One thinks the people of Portland should stay home on Oct 18th. flashman13 Thursday #17

The Grand Illuminist

(1,923 posts)
3. It is too late to remain peaceful.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 09:46 AM
Thursday

The damage is done, and Reich is giving outdated and obsolete advice that had worked in the past, for which the right has it well scouted to the point it no longer works and achieves nothing anymore. His heart is in the right place, but sorry, it is most likely gonna take fear to get the MAGA civilians in line, extreme fear.

The Grand Illuminist

(1,923 posts)
6. I respect that.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 10:11 AM
Thursday

But there is a massive silent majority that would see this, even though they agree for peaceful resolution. We now are in the no choice/reluctance stage.

Timeflyer

(3,465 posts)
7. Nope, sorry, disagree. Stay peaceful, resist, and raise hell, but stay alive and vocal and out of jail.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 10:23 AM
Thursday

The Grand Illuminist

(1,923 posts)
8. Then we fail.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 10:34 AM
Thursday

One of the weaknesses is sacrifice. The willingness to go all in. It tests the importance of what one fights for.

Response to The Grand Illuminist (Reply #3)

hunter

(40,056 posts)
15. Go away, please.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 12:56 PM
Thursday

Put away your guns and use your brain.

There are innumerable ways to resist without violence.

MAGA people who know me won't confront me. They keep their nonsense to themselves. They already fear me, that's why they are so agitated.

Trump gave these morons permission to let their inner racism, misogyny, and other hatreds loose.

You can, at the very least, make the anti-intellectualism and petty hatreds the are stewing in unpleasant for them -- maybe even offer them a way out.

That's not always effective, so always wear shoes you can run in so you can live to resist another day.

Chemical Bill

(2,953 posts)
18. Doing anything against MAGA civilians...
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 02:17 PM
Thursday

won't get us anywhere. The richest few won't care. They run things. Many MAGA are already prepared to die for their cause, as long as they take Blacks in Buffalo, Jews in Pittsburgh, or Hispanics in San Antonio with them. We already count the vast majority of the country among our numbers. Don't waste your time thinking that you can attack your neighbor who has a Trump flag and it will change our country.

Submariner

(13,162 posts)
4. the heritage foundation and fox news will
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 09:49 AM
Thursday

likely have false flag agitators there to cause fake-ANTIFA mayhem. be prepared to defend yourselves.

popsdenver

(622 posts)
13. It was proven that
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 12:47 PM
Thursday

radical right infiltrated the "Black Lives Matter" crowd and instigated the violence, they even had the proof on video tape.....
Fully expect all kinds of False Flag radical right wing agitators, Fox and others are already broadcasting video from the BLM demonstrations in Portland years ago, and presenting it as going on right now...............and worst of all, Trump, his CABAL and Trumphumping voters, are all watching that, and think that it is what is currently going on now!.....I am surprised FOX and Mainstream Media haven't gone back into the archives, and used film footage of the L.A. Riots from four or five? decades ago......

popsdenver

(622 posts)
14. If Obama really wanted to piss Trump off
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 12:56 PM
Thursday

every time Obama is pictured, or appears in Public, he is holding up his *GOLD* Noble Peace Medallion and smiling......

Trump falsified Time Magazine Covers, showing him as person of the year, and hung them all over his resort walls, and at Mar-a-Gago.

Frankly, I am surprised he hasn't had SEVEN phony Noble Peace Medallions made, to hang around the oval office for the purported SEVEN peace settlements he says he negotiated/resolved around the world.....

kimbutgar

(26,230 posts)
16. Oh I wouldn't pass him to do that in the near future as he loses it even more as his dementia worsens
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 01:32 PM
Thursday

And his handler Miller tells him he won those medallions!

popsdenver

(622 posts)
19. You are probably right
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 05:34 PM
Thursday

I got to handle one that a friend had recently been awarded for his work........It's like four inches around, gold, and pretty thick.......If Trump ever stole one of those, he would hang it around his neck and wear it all the time to gloat....
He can't be trusted, look at the Soccer championship trophy he commandeered for his oval office and had Tiffany? make a duplicate for the team.....

ancianita

(42,249 posts)
10. But he doesn't answer why trump wants to punish. That's not his main goal. His punishment is the MEANS to his MAIN goal
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 11:57 AM
Thursday

-- to suppress the vote in 2026 and 2028.

popsdenver

(622 posts)
12. I admire Reich
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 12:36 PM
Thursday

but this time, he is seemingly a little late to the party along with many others...............

Many here on DU and other places have been saying this exact thing for many months, from the very start of his second "Occupation".......

The simple reality is this, (like so many, many other things), has been organized, orchestrated according to a preset agenda, and now they are executing their 2025/Steven Miller game plan.......

The thing is, that it is akin to painting ourselves into a corner, or a check mate of sorts: Damned if we do rebel, Damned if we don't rebel....

Many people have been walking down the jungle path, swatting at mosquitoes, and were oblivious to the herd of charging elephants...Pun intended

Doing the "high road" thing, writing "Sternly worded letters", not at all realizing, for at least the past decade(s), they were up against an all out Guerrilla Warfare Strategy and Tactics being used by this "new" group of so called Republican Party Fascists.......
They have been chipping away at everything since before Reagan, slowly working towards this end......They came within a hair of them reaching their goal during the first Trump Occupation......And Republicans decided they were not to be denied the second time......AT ANY COST....
Their mantra is: "The Means, Justifies The End'..........
The Uber Wealthy, The Corporations, The Republican Majority in the House and Senate, the Republican installed U.S.S.C. Justices, Musk's "handiwork" with vote compiling computers?, the major Republican owned/operated Mass Media in the entire U.S., Fox News, Right Wing Radio's 100's of stations across rural America...............this all didn't just happen to be coincidental and just innocently "come together." and happen overnight............

Many of us Dems here have been screaming our heads off since HWBush's CABAL committed Treason to get Reagan into office.......and it has fallen on deaf ears......We were even laughed at by the large group called: Reagan Democrats........

Our choices on what to do now, are severely limited, I would not want to hazard a guess on which way to go............

flashman13

(1,625 posts)
17. I'm of two minds here. One thinks the people of Portland should stay home on Oct 18th.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 01:37 PM
Thursday

The other side says they should mobilize every person that is capable to show Trump what an aroused citizenry looks like.

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