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BlueWaveNeverEnd

(11,634 posts)
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 05:40 PM Wednesday

Some Dearborn Arab Americans are reassessing their support of Trump

‘I don’t feel safe any more’: Dearborn’s Arab Americans on rising Islamophobia
Residents in Michigan city on edge as threats against their community rise, and some are reassessing their support for Trump


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But Dearborn, the US’s first majority-Arab-American city, home to many residents who have lost family members to Israeli bombardments in Gaza and Lebanon, seems to attract particular vitriol.

Residents report growing racism platformed on rightwing media outlets. In recent weeks, Fox News has devoted significant attention to Dearborn, highlighting, for example, noise complaints about mosques and an alleged dispute between a local pastor and the city’s Lebanese American mayor.

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Now, interviews with some of those who backed Trump last year suggest that support may be eroding.
Faye Nemer, the founder of the Dearborn-based Mena American Chamber of Commerce, which works to build economic and cultural exchanges between organizations in the Middle East and US, says that many among the Arab American community who backed Trump in last year’s election did so on the premise that he would be a president of peace. She was among a cohort of Arab Americans who welcomed and organized Trump’s visit to Dearborn just days before the presidential election last November.
“We’re cautiously optimistic about this ceasefire deal [but] it’s become somewhat problematic – what was promised during the campaign cycle versus what we’re seeing occur on the ground,” she says.

Nemer says she believes there’s a shifting of opinion in the Arab American community. “I think they are in for a rude awakening come the midterm elections,” she said of the Republican party. “There should be some introspection there.”


‘I don’t feel safe any more’: Dearborn’s Arab Americans on rising Islamophobia | Michigan | The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/08/arab-americans-michigan-dearborn-trump
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Some Dearborn Arab Americans are reassessing their support of Trump (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd Wednesday OP
Post removed Post removed Wednesday #1
Fuck em FHRRK Wednesday #2
Voter with leopard stuck to his face is reassessing his vote for the face eating leopard. Volaris Wednesday #19
They brought misery upon all of us UpInArms Thursday #53
What did they think? pfitz59 Wednesday #3
not many manners here Tetrachloride Wednesday #4
These are the people who brought us Trump 2 and you expect comity? Bobstandard Wednesday #38
the victims are primarily the dead Tetrachloride Thursday #45
The Dead were never victims Bobstandard Thursday #69
. Scrivener7 Wednesday #5
I don't know how you could survive Trump's first term and think he would be a president of peace. tanyev Wednesday #6
If they are open voting for Democrats, I would say encourage them to do so. NBachers Wednesday #7
I've not heard any indication of that. yardwork Thursday #50
Nobody is a monolith SSJVegeta Thursday #52
More accurately, a considerable of us don't care what they think. So, they don't need to care about us. Tetrachloride Thursday #54
The Arab-American leaders in MI bragged that they would get Trump elected. yardwork Thursday #56
BEFORE that occurred, the mainstream Dems didn't care much about Gaza, even after the genocide started. Tetrachloride Thursday #61
Bullshit. yardwork Thursday #64
Thank you. Blatant lie and should not be here. betsuni Thursday #67
Even their criticism is mild newdeal2 Wednesday #8
That took them a while Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Wednesday #9
I often wonder if some (not all) of the pro-Palestine protesters were actually infiltrators by RW/Russia crimycarny Wednesday #10
Very valid questions, and it wouldn't suprise me a bit. groundloop Wednesday #26
How many of those protesters could even find markodochartaigh Wednesday #27
Yes. Even now, Kamala is getting protestors at appearances for her book tour, tanyev Thursday #47
The pro-Palestinian propaganda was carefully planned and funded. yardwork Thursday #55
Yes--during 2016 there seemed a similar hijack of the BLM movement to split Democrats crimycarny Thursday #71
We saw it in 2004 and 2008, too. yardwork Thursday #72
They voluntarily made an informed choice sarisataka Wednesday #11
When someone tells you what they are going to do, and then you are surprised when they do it, whose lostincalifornia Wednesday #12
Venezuelan Americans must be reeling also BlueWaveNeverEnd Wednesday #13
Who could have imagined that Muslims would have a need to distrust violent, bigoted, white Christian Nationalists Aristus Wednesday #14
Their 2024 support for Trump was based in misogyny. Their rationalizations ring hollow. nt SunSeeker Wednesday #15
Anti trans/ book banning ..yes! BlueWaveNeverEnd Wednesday #16
Yup. Being anti-trans springs from the same misogynist bigotry. nt SunSeeker Wednesday #17
Read the damn tea leaves Champp Wednesday #18
Post removed Post removed Wednesday #20
HAHAHAHAHAHA!! Leopards, you know what to do!!! Coventina Wednesday #21
I feel uncommitted about this so I'll just leave it blank. QueerDuck Wednesday #22
Look in the dictionary between shit and syphilis there you'll find my sympathy Samael13 Wednesday #23
As someone of Middle Eastern descent who grew up in the Detroit area caballojm Wednesday #24
They supported him because he hates LGBTQ EllieBC Wednesday #25
I'm sure women and LGBTQ were the first things on their minds while watching the genocide. AloeVera Wednesday #39
Yes we know they don't care about women or EllieBC Thursday #42
So they elected Netanyahu's best friend? yardwork Thursday #57
A little late for that, my fair weather friends calguy Wednesday #28
they don't have to worry about your vote if they just send you to CECOT Takket Wednesday #29
Gee, what were the odds of that? Glorious bastard Wednesday #30
How could they be stupid enough to think Trump would support them? Norrrm Wednesday #31
I don't want to hear from these people anymore. They were stupid enough to believe Trump would travelingthrulife Wednesday #32
Reassess away. DFW Wednesday #33
They're still not sure... requires further "assessing" JoseBalow Wednesday #34
Fuck them. kacekwl Wednesday #35
Better late than never. EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #36
Better late than never, unless it's too late... W_HAMILTON Wednesday #37
The great thing about being alive is there's always still time to change EdmondDantes_ Thursday #66
The great thing about being alive thucythucy Thursday #70
Oh boo hoo, MarineCombatEngineer Wednesday #40
They made their bed and ours too. And forced us to sleep in it. Vogon_Glory Thursday #58
"YA THINK???" It should have been obvious to them what Trump was about, Jack Valentino Wednesday #41
Oh Fuck.. What? It takes a GD Cha Thursday #43
The FO is not nearly as fun as the FA LS0999 Thursday #44
Well hopefully they learned a lesson. Emile Thursday #46
It's heart breaking Johnny2X2X Thursday #48
When they are ready to apologize, we can talk. Until then... NT Happy Hoosier Thursday #49
Ya think? Mme. Defarge Thursday #51
DUH! Ritabert Thursday #59
How do you say ""life is about the choices you make" in Arabic? walkingman Thursday #60
Let's be clear: they voted for Trump because Harris was a woman NickB79 Thursday #62
Well Rebl2 Thursday #63
What a shame. BannonsLiver Thursday #65
Just now?? Iris Thursday #68
"Feeling abandoned and afraid ... Those sentiments increased support for Donald Trump." betsuni Thursday #73
Trump was a known quantity, so there's really no excuse peggysue2 Thursday #74

Response to BlueWaveNeverEnd (Original post)

FHRRK

(1,211 posts)
2. Fuck em
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 05:44 PM
Wednesday

Zero political capital should be wasted on their ignorant asses. They picked a side, they can deal with it.

Volaris

(11,140 posts)
19. Voter with leopard stuck to his face is reassessing his vote for the face eating leopard.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 06:35 PM
Wednesday

Bobstandard

(2,041 posts)
38. These are the people who brought us Trump 2 and you expect comity?
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 09:28 PM
Wednesday

These aren’t just people who now feel cheated or even threatened by DT. These are people who screwed the rest of us. It’s not surprising that their victims (ie us) are pissed and eschewing high manners for the moment.

tanyev

(48,043 posts)
6. I don't know how you could survive Trump's first term and think he would be a president of peace.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 05:49 PM
Wednesday

😣

yardwork

(68,290 posts)
50. I've not heard any indication of that.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 10:18 AM
Thursday

In any case, they've said over and over that they don't care at all what we think or say.

SSJVegeta

(1,703 posts)
52. Nobody is a monolith
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 10:21 AM
Thursday

Everybody can be convinced -especially if it suits their basic interests.

Tetrachloride

(9,138 posts)
54. More accurately, a considerable of us don't care what they think. So, they don't need to care about us.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 10:26 AM
Thursday

As for myself, I care.

yardwork

(68,290 posts)
56. The Arab-American leaders in MI bragged that they would get Trump elected.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 10:29 AM
Thursday

They wrote "we want you to know it was us."

I have nothing but contempt for anybody who worked to elect Trump. The man is an evil, incompetent criminal. He's destroying our democracy.

Everybody who voted for him and bragged about it is my enemy. Full stop. I'm not interested in hearing their excuse for electing an evil criminal.

Tetrachloride

(9,138 posts)
61. BEFORE that occurred, the mainstream Dems didn't care much about Gaza, even after the genocide started.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 10:49 AM
Thursday

the full timeline from multiple points of view is the honest way

Biden was silent. Let that sink in. Biden was silent.

yardwork

(68,290 posts)
64. Bullshit.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 10:55 AM
Thursday

Edited to add that anyone who cares to google "Biden comments on Gaza" will find a wealth of information, including videos and statements by President Biden calling for a ceasefire and criticizing Israel.

It's a blatant lie to say that "Biden was silent" and in any case Biden was not the nominee.

I don't give a SHIT what excuses anybody has for voting for Trump. THEY have blood on their hands and they are my enemies.

newdeal2

(4,310 posts)
8. Even their criticism is mild
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 05:50 PM
Wednesday

You can’t honestly tell me Gaza would have been worse off with a Dem president vs. Trump.

crimycarny

(1,938 posts)
10. I often wonder if some (not all) of the pro-Palestine protesters were actually infiltrators by RW/Russia
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 06:01 PM
Wednesday

First of all, I am NOT saying that all pro-Palestine protestors were some sort of false flag operation, but one thing I never understood was why the pro-Palestine protests were never at Trump rallies, and why they seem to have largely disappeared after Trump won. Even more confusing to me is why there haven't been recent uprisings of protestors after all of Trump's egregious actions against Gaza/Palestine since he won.

Why? This is a legitimate question, not meant to be provoking. Where are the "Genocide Trump" versus "Genocide Joe" monikers?

Maybe those protests are still out there, but now against Trump, and I'm simply not reading about them.

markodochartaigh

(4,297 posts)
27. How many of those protesters could even find
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 07:45 PM
Wednesday

Gaza on a map before the protests (not including protesters from the Middle East of course)?
Gaza has been a hellhole for more than a decade, where were those protesters all this time? Yemen is also being pounded into rubble by a US ally with US weapons. Have these protesters protested that? This whole thing blew up on Putin's birthday. Hamas is Iran's client state. Iran is Russia's ally. The same techbros who own the social media platforms are sympathetic, if not downright friendly with Netanyahu and Putin.

tanyev

(48,043 posts)
47. Yes. Even now, Kamala is getting protestors at appearances for her book tour,
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 07:59 AM
Thursday

and, no, they're not showing up at Trump events. I don't know what they think private citizen Harris could accomplish for Palestinians and I don't understand why they aren't outraged at a president who supports Netanyahu 100% and is already making plans for luxury resorts in a cleared-out Gaza.

yardwork

(68,290 posts)
55. The pro-Palestinian propaganda was carefully planned and funded.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 10:26 AM
Thursday

The demonstrations, the internet campaigns, the cute logos, the identically worded slogans that hit the day after Hamas attacked Israel were all planned in advance and centrally coordinated.

The goal - which worked - was to get Trump back in the White House. The strategy was to divide Democrats and erode support for Biden and then Harris.

DSA and other groups were vehicles for promoting the propaganda.

The operation had Putin's fingerprints on it. It unfolded similarly to his campaign against Clinton in 2016. Some other billionaires helped fund it, too. China is involved.

We see echoes of the propaganda here on DU. Note the occasional anti-vax, pro-RFK, Jr. posters - their views follow the Putin propaganda on I/P.

We can point and laugh at MAGA but some Democrats behaved just as stupidly and were gullible fools.

crimycarny

(1,938 posts)
71. Yes--during 2016 there seemed a similar hijack of the BLM movement to split Democrats
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 01:01 PM
Thursday

Your post reminded me of the BLM movement during the Clinton campaign in 2016. It always felt to me that there was an outside attempt to hijack and weaponize the BLM movement and divide Democrats.

I think outside actors take legitimate causes people care about, and attempt to twist them into weapons to use against whoever these outside actors want to weaken. Democrats keep taking the bait, and it's frustrating as h*ll.

As for DU posts, I'm always suspicious of those that tend to be overly toxic to anyone who disagrees with their viewpoint. It definitely seems an attempt to cause anger and division, and I block those DUers.

yardwork

(68,290 posts)
72. We saw it in 2004 and 2008, too.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 01:17 PM
Thursday

The attempt to divide Democrats in 2004 and 2008 involved pitting LGBTQ people against Black people. I think the GOP and their billionaire donors were behind that effort.

Democrats, almost by definition, don't usually like being told what to do. We resist authoritarianism and centralized rules. We argue with one another.

The enemies of democracy use our strength against us.

sarisataka

(22,032 posts)
11. They voluntarily made an informed choice
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 06:03 PM
Wednesday

Very well aware of the potential consequences.

Now we all share in the suffering

lostincalifornia

(4,690 posts)
12. When someone tells you what they are going to do, and then you are surprised when they do it, whose
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 06:04 PM
Wednesday

fault is it?


Aristus

(71,066 posts)
14. Who could have imagined that Muslims would have a need to distrust violent, bigoted, white Christian Nationalists
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 06:07 PM
Wednesday

who want to deport everyone who isn't?

I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you...




Champp

(2,294 posts)
18. Read the damn tea leaves
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 06:21 PM
Wednesday

Everyone with a lick of common sense did.

Then they voted for Kamala, and for basic human decency.

Response to BlueWaveNeverEnd (Original post)

caballojm

(286 posts)
24. As someone of Middle Eastern descent who grew up in the Detroit area
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 07:06 PM
Wednesday

no shit, Sherlock. If only there had been some way to know before the election that their support for Agent Orange would come back and bite them in the ass.

EllieBC

(3,574 posts)
25. They supported him because he hates LGBTQ
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 07:23 PM
Wednesday

as much if not more than they do. See: Hamtrack, MI. Fairly certain any members of the LGBTQ community there don't feel safe.

Perhaps if they loved Palestinians more than they hated women and lgbtq having rights they might not have voted for Trump.

They can fuck right off.

AloeVera

(3,826 posts)
39. I'm sure women and LGBTQ were the first things on their minds while watching the genocide.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 09:51 PM
Wednesday

Of their friends, family and fellow humans.

Demonization is getting real old.

EllieBC

(3,574 posts)
42. Yes we know they don't care about women or
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 12:56 AM
Thursday

the LGBTQ community. That’s always been clear.

So fuck ‘em. They got what they voted for.

yardwork

(68,290 posts)
57. So they elected Netanyahu's best friend?
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 10:33 AM
Thursday

I'm sure they find his shitposts about replacing Gaza with a beachfront resort hilarious.

There's no way to make this make sense.

travelingthrulife

(3,470 posts)
32. I don't want to hear from these people anymore. They were stupid enough to believe Trump would
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 08:43 PM
Wednesday

bring peace???? What possible reason would you have to believe that?

DFW

(59,126 posts)
33. Reassess away.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 08:50 PM
Wednesday

They voted for him, and were not feeble-minded, demented, or forced at gunpoint. I am not the one they should come whining to if they lose jobs, health care, or the ability of their businesses to keep their heads above water. They consciously helped deliver this disaster upon us, and I can only hope that each and every one of them suffers the consequences in full. The amount of sympathy I have for them is equal to the amount of sympathy they had for us and the rest of the nation at the voting booth last November.

If all Arab-American communities, especially the ones in and around Detroit, suddenly deliver majority votes for Democratic candidates next November, maybe I'll be the one "reassessing" my sentiments. The occasional "oops" a year before the midterms does not cut it for me. "Oops" will not remove Noem's thugs from our cities, or looney toons types like Bobby Kennedy Jr.. Pete Hegseth, Kristi Noem, Tulsi Gabbard or Pam Bondi from their positions of excessive power, and they will not remove any of Mister Scratch's* six judges from the Supreme Court, either.

*I meant, of course, the Mister Scratch of "The Devil and Daniel Webster."

Mr. Scratch: You shall have your trial, Mr. Webster. But I'm sure you'll agree, this is hardly the case for an ordinary jury.
Daniel Webster: Let it be the quick or the dead, so long as it is an American judge and an American jury!
Mr. Scratch: 'The quick or the dead!' You have said it.
[he stomps on the barn floor; a door opens]
Mr. Scratch: You must pardon the leathery toughness of one or two.
Jabez Stone: [afraid] Mr. Webster!
[a line of ghosts begin entering from the trapdoor]
Mr. Scratch: Captain Kidd - he killed men for gold. Simon Girty, the renegade - he burned men for gold. Governor Dale - he broke men on the wheel. Asa, the Black Monk - he choked them to death. Floyd Ireson and Stede Bonnet, the fiendish butchers. Walter Butler, King of the Massacre. Big and Little Harp, robbers and murderers. Teach, the Cutthroat. Morton, the vicious lawyer... and General Benedict Arnold. You remember him, no doubt.
Daniel Webster: A jury of the damned...
Mr. Scratch: [laughs] Dastards, liars, traitors, knaves. Your suggestion, Mr. Webster - 'the quick or the dead.'
Daniel Webster: This is outrageous, I asked for a fair trial...
Mr. Scratch: Americans, all.

EdmondDantes_

(987 posts)
36. Better late than never.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 09:18 PM
Wednesday

But really would have been nice if they had thought of this a year ago. Hopefully they remember this in 2026 and beyond.

EdmondDantes_

(987 posts)
66. The great thing about being alive is there's always still time to change
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 10:59 AM
Thursday

Very few decisions are permanent. I don't share the belief that anything Trump is doing is permanent. Yes it will take time to undo the damage, but it took the anti-abortion movement decades to reverse Roe v Wade, it took centuries to get rid of slavery and then Jim Crow. Same sex marriage, interracial marriage, etc. If we give up because it's hard, that's on us.

thucythucy

(8,997 posts)
70. The great thing about being alive
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 12:52 PM
Thursday

is you're not dead.

Doesn't work though for the children who will die of preventable diseases because of RFK Jr., the hundreds of thousands who will starve now that AID is dismantled, all those who might die because their health care is cut off, those who will lose their lives to shoddy drugs and contaminated food thanks to the FDA being compromised by corporate greed-heads, not to mention victims of gay and trans bashing, immigrants who have and will be "disappeared" by ICE detention....

All of this is and will be permanent to the people affected, just like the hundreds of thousands who died during Covid because Dear Leader opposed wearing masks on account of not wanting to smear his make-up. Who told us precautions weren't necessary because the virus would magically disappear with the warm weather...

Yes, Germans who supported Hitler and survived the regime and the war were able to "change their minds."

But then that didn't do much for all the innocents who died because of that support.

Jack Valentino

(3,558 posts)
41. "YA THINK???" It should have been obvious to them what Trump was about,
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 10:00 PM
Wednesday

but maybe it didn't translate into Arabic...

LS0999

(264 posts)
44. The FO is not nearly as fun as the FA
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 02:28 AM
Thursday

You can't say that they weren't warned.They wanted to punish the Democrats. They hated some of the same people that maga hated. So they got what they voted for. Why complain now? You want to wake up now that ICE is at your doorstep? Smh.

Johnny2X2X

(23,481 posts)
48. It's heart breaking
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 08:36 AM
Thursday

These people were duped. The Arab American votes that flipped from 2020 to 2024 cost Harris Michigan and maybe Wisconsin and Arizona.

Trump will throw these people into concentration camps the minute he finds a reason.

NickB79

(20,128 posts)
62. Let's be clear: they voted for Trump because Harris was a woman
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 10:54 AM
Thursday

They're misogynistic fucks who'd rather be ruled by a male tyrant than led by an elected woman.

All the other excuses they give are bullshit.

Rebl2

(17,082 posts)
63. Well
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 10:55 AM
Thursday

I guess it’s the usual FAFO for these Arab Americans that voted for trump. Should have known this would happen to them. The trump administration doesn’t care about any of the people that voted for him.

betsuni

(28,431 posts)
73. "Feeling abandoned and afraid ... Those sentiments increased support for Donald Trump."
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 01:32 PM
Thursday

Big strong law & order businessman freedom Daddy will kiss ouchy boo boo and make everything alright!

I HATE YOU MEAN OLD DEMOCRAT MOMMY.

peggysue2

(12,211 posts)
74. Trump was a known quantity, so there's really no excuse
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 02:30 PM
Thursday

One of his first acts in 2017 was banning Muslims from entering the country. Does this sound like the Prince of Peace?

Project 2025 was a blueprint for installing a Christofascist government, a theocratic autocracy. The document was available online and broadcast by Kamala Harris and her campaign. And even now, pro-Palestine groups are berating Harris for not doing anything. After she lost the election.

Democratic leaders and voters warned the country repeatedly that Agent Orange without guardrails would be disastrous threatening lives and freedoms.

And here we are with American cities invaded by Trump's Monkey Brigades, threats of the Insurrection Act being shouted out and selective investigations and prosecutions of Trump's perceived enemies.

He has called all critics the 'enemy within.' But, of course, he has said worse of critics--vermin, traitors, gnats, etc.

This is the House the Deaf and Blind Built.

Arab Americans have every right to feel squeamish now. But really, what did they expect would happen by voting for a convicted felon, a maniac who only serves himself and holds a deep hatred for immigrants and anyone who is not lily white and silent?

Donald Trump was/is the Prince of Darkness, the Destroyer with an army of haters to bolster him up.

The question now is who are we as American citizens?

Purveyors of the Darkness or Guardians of the Light?

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