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Swede

(37,528 posts)
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 03:38 PM Monday

Mrs. Betty Bowers: JD VANCE: "My mother got the drugs that almost killed her from Mexicans."

REALITY: JD's mother got the drugs that almost killed her from her hospital patients, whom she stole from.

JD VANCE: "My mother got the drugs that almost killed her from Mexicans."

REALITY: JD's mother got the drugs that almost killed her from her hospital patients, whom she stole from.

Mrs. Betty Bowers (@mrsbettybowers.bsky.social) 2025-10-05T00:05:00.246Z








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Mrs. Betty Bowers: JD VANCE: "My mother got the drugs that almost killed her from Mexicans." (Original Post) Swede Monday OP
Shameless lying is a prerequisite for working for this administration surfered Monday #1
It seems to be.... SergeStorms Tuesday #39
The statement actually leaves some wiggle-room, logically AZJonnie Monday #2
review vance's comments after the springfield "eating the dogs" incident rampartd Tuesday #20
These drugs don't come with a stamp on them stating 'I'm from Mexico' travelingthrulife Tuesday #30
He didn't say the drugs were hecho en Mexico, he said she got them from Mexicans AZJonnie Tuesday #36
The VP of the Party of Personal Responsibility is blamimg Mexicans because his mom chose to use drugs. sop Monday #3
So, when it's drugs, the point-of-origin is to blame. 70sEraVet Tuesday #22
Exactly! Gimpyknee Tuesday #23
Generational liars Marthe48 Monday #4
Therefore? maxsolomon Monday #5
I blame capitalism JoseBalow Monday #8
A whole lot of people in the US soldierant Monday #16
WHAT?!? Veepy Weirdo Beardo LIED about something? Who'd-a thunk it! n/t TygrBright Monday #6
Why was his mother using drugs in the first place? AverageOldGuy Monday #7
She couldn't look her couch in the eye anymore? BurnDoubt Monday #12
REC (As soon as I can stop laughing!) 11 Bravo Monday #14
The best comment on the internet for the day. nt moniss Tuesday #25
Boom! MorbidButterflyTat Tuesday #38
When will he man up and use his real name? GreenWave Monday #9
What's the J for, i imagine the D is for thomski64 Monday #15
Davenport? Gimpyknee Tuesday #24
It took me a moment but then I got it, cuz I'm old and I remember such things! CTyankee Tuesday #41
And he still isn't worth the pills his mommy tried to trade him for. paleotn Monday #10
Turds of a feather IbogaProject Monday #11
So she was not responsible? mgardener Monday #13
The first time brakester Tuesday #31
I have a very hard time calling someone who steals pain meds from patients a victim Hekate Tuesday #40
Maybe the patients were Mexican lame54 Monday #17
So .... DEA should arrest his mother ? Seems like the most logical conclusion. nt eppur_se_muova Monday #18
Wow, using his current alias JD is a lying fraud Hassler Tuesday #19
It's Satanic to lie all the time Champp Tuesday #21
Wait - what? Ruby the Liberal Tuesday #26
you expected truth? from a smarmy Repuke? rustbeltvoice Tuesday #27
Hey Shady McMaybelline---you're Catholic Jilly_in_VA Tuesday #28
Let's even pretend it is true. So what? I assume she tried her best to source them... Ol Janx Spirit Tuesday #29
I have no idea what he's talking about, but his mother wasn't forced at gunpoint to take any drugs. It was a choice. Vinca Tuesday #32
Don't take drugs while pregnant usless it is Tylenol. Otherwise you might end up with, you know, a vance. twodogsbarking Tuesday #33
Meanwhile, Mexicans are complaining about relatives that were killed by guns that came from, well, Americans. twodogsbarking Tuesday #34
JD. Your Grandma poured gasoline on your Grandpa and set him on fire vanlassie Tuesday #35
Absolute lie. And I know this first hand btw...from Middletown. Grew up there. Knew his mother well at one point. airmid Tuesday #37
Fucking LIAR. Cha Tuesday #42
I hate stupid shit like this post Grins Yesterday #43

SergeStorms

(19,802 posts)
39. It seems to be....
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 02:54 PM
Tuesday

the only prerequisite to obtain employment in King-Kon's administration.
Everything, and I mean every thing, is a lie.

AZJonnie

(1,790 posts)
2. The statement actually leaves some wiggle-room, logically
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 04:01 PM
Monday

If, for example, she happened to OD after taking drugs she got on "the street", the statement could be true.

It is CERTAINLY a lie to say that "Mexicans" were responsible for her addiction (which is one reading of his words, but not the only one). She already admitted she got hooked on opioids after starting on Rx'd pain pills, and then began stealing from hospitals where she worked, and then was eventually fired and lost her license. BUT she also said that did not stop her using. Ergo, it logically follows that it is possible (likely, in my experience) she was procuring drugs on the streets afterward.

These assholes are pretty good at CONVEYING lies without them being demonstrable, proven lies. They use weasel words like these ALL THE TIME

rampartd

(2,564 posts)
20. review vance's comments after the springfield "eating the dogs" incident
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 04:29 AM
Tuesday

their mo is to say whatever it takes for the media to deliver their message.

travelingthrulife

(3,448 posts)
30. These drugs don't come with a stamp on them stating 'I'm from Mexico'
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 10:55 AM
Tuesday

We make all sorts of illicit drugs in this country. How does he know the origin country?

AZJonnie

(1,790 posts)
36. He didn't say the drugs were hecho en Mexico, he said she got them from Mexicans
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 12:58 PM
Tuesday

And those are not synonymous ideas

I mean, to be clear, I think he's full of shit But the meme in the OP has a logical flaw, e.g. it's a fallacious counter-argument. That's really all I'm saying about it

sop

(16,368 posts)
3. The VP of the Party of Personal Responsibility is blamimg Mexicans because his mom chose to use drugs.
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 04:21 PM
Monday

Mom wasn't responsible, she was a victim.

70sEraVet

(4,974 posts)
22. So, when it's drugs, the point-of-origin is to blame.
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 08:41 AM
Tuesday

But when it's GUNS, the manufacturers must be protected from lawsuits - after all, "guns don't kill people, people kill people"!

maxsolomon

(37,523 posts)
5. Therefore?
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 05:25 PM
Monday

All Mexicans don't deserve the blame for those that supplied a demand from American users.

soldierant

(9,011 posts)
16. A whole lot of people in the US
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 06:40 PM
Monday

have (or did have) relatives who were killed (or almost killed) between 1943 and 1945 by blond white men.

Gimpyknee

(862 posts)
24. Davenport?
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 09:03 AM
Tuesday

You’re really showing your age my friend. I wonder how many of the younger DUers will make the association here. In any event, well done!

paleotn

(20,984 posts)
10. And he still isn't worth the pills his mommy tried to trade him for.
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 05:48 PM
Monday

He's proof that piles of shit sometimes fail upwards.

brakester

(482 posts)
31. The first time
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 10:57 AM
Tuesday

they weren't forced on her, maybe,
but as addiction goes, after that, she was a victim.

Hekate

(99,732 posts)
40. I have a very hard time calling someone who steals pain meds from patients a victim
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 04:09 PM
Tuesday

The victims are the patients whose pain is not a trivial matter. I say this in the waiting period before knee-replacement — I have a high pain tolerance, but recently hit a tipping-point and experienced level 10 for a couple of days and nights. When I finally got it under control, it still remained high, exhausting, but below agony. We have others here at DU who live in a state of chronic very high-level pain all the time.

A person in a position of trust — doctor, nurse, PA, caregiver — who consigns their patients to intractable pain, is not the victim in this scenario.

rustbeltvoice

(470 posts)
27. you expected truth? from a smarmy Repuke?
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 09:57 AM
Tuesday

“If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention, then that’s what I’m going to do.”

There are many liars in the world, but this one tells you in advance, that he will lie anytime he wants.

Jilly_in_VA

(13,238 posts)
28. Hey Shady McMaybelline---you're Catholic
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 10:00 AM
Tuesday

How long do you have to spend in the confessional every week? Or do you have a friendly right-wing priest who just excuses everything? Maybe Uncle Clarence found one for you....

Ol Janx Spirit

(417 posts)
29. Let's even pretend it is true. So what? I assume she tried her best to source them...
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 10:47 AM
Tuesday

...from Americans once her supply of drugs she could steal from patients ran out, but she just couldn't find a good made-in-America dealer--so she turned to Mexicans. But if they hadn't been there then that would've been the end of the story? She wouldn't have turned to the Hondurans or Guatemalans? She wouldn't have looked to Canadians or some Asian source?

Let's help Shady make this an accurate statement:
My mother got the drugs that almost killed her from Mexicans because she was either failed by the support systems around her or she ignored them in a self-destructive quest to feed her own addicted mind and body. She would have gotten them from wherever she could find them.

But by all means, offer up a scapegoat and justify violence against them. That seems to be your addiction now doesn't it?

Vinca

(52,807 posts)
32. I have no idea what he's talking about, but his mother wasn't forced at gunpoint to take any drugs. It was a choice.
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 11:03 AM
Tuesday

She probably needed them after she realized the offspring she'd produced.

twodogsbarking

(16,115 posts)
33. Don't take drugs while pregnant usless it is Tylenol. Otherwise you might end up with, you know, a vance.
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 11:59 AM
Tuesday

twodogsbarking

(16,115 posts)
34. Meanwhile, Mexicans are complaining about relatives that were killed by guns that came from, well, Americans.
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 12:01 PM
Tuesday

vanlassie

(6,156 posts)
35. JD. Your Grandma poured gasoline on your Grandpa and set him on fire
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 12:16 PM
Tuesday

Because he was drunk.
Your mother put out the flames

How have you figured out your blame story for that one?

Standard Oil??
Old Crow Whisky?

Your mother was fucked up by your Grandma, JD.

airmid

(523 posts)
37. Absolute lie. And I know this first hand btw...from Middletown. Grew up there. Knew his mother well at one point.
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 01:09 PM
Tuesday

I bought drugs from her frequently. Drugs she stole from the hospital and nursing homes she worked at. JD Vance is a shameless liar.

Grins

(8,936 posts)
43. I hate stupid shit like this post
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 09:30 AM
Yesterday

It really bugs me when I see crap like this.

Curious about the context, I looked and looked to find the actual quote and date. It wasn't easy. All I got were repeats and repeats of this same comment. Finally - a better source. Turns out it is from a 30-second campaign ad titled, "Are you a racist?"

Vance in that ad:

"Are you a racist? Do you hate Mexicans? The media calls us racists for wanting to build Trump's wall. They censure us, but it doesn't change the truth. Joe Biden's* open border is killing Ohioans, with more illegal drugs and more democrat voters pouring into this country. This issue is personal. I nearly lost my mother to the poison coming across our border."

'Poison.' Not 'Mexicans nearly killed my mother.' So who changed the text to something completely different?

Vance made that ad for his senate run - in April of 2022! This is more than three years old! So why is it coming around again?

* As much as Vance and the Rethuglicans want to blame everything on Biden, his mother was stealing good old American-made drugs back when Clinton was president. Abuse of prescription opioids and heroin became long before Bush, Obama, and Biden. Fentanyl was the new kid on the block but not until 2012.
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