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Jilly_in_VA

(13,256 posts)
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 08:18 PM Saturday

Can National Guardsmen deployed to US cities claim conscientious objection?

In the desert, he realized Humvees don’t uphold the Constitution: People do.

Twenty years later, Iraq War veteran Aaron Hughes continues spreading his realization that soldiers can better champion American ideals by following their conscience over orders.

The 42-year-old is sharing the message more vociferously than ever as President Donald Trump moves to deploy troops to cities around the U.S. in what the president says is an effort to fight crime and support immigration enforcement.

"When people withdraw themselves from the gears of the machine, that’s power, and service members need to know they have power to withdraw their consent," said the Chicago-area native.

Hughes is an Illinois-based member of About Face: Veterans Against the War, an organization formed to stop "militarism and endless wars" that has been slamming the White House’s efforts to use soldiers to police Americans and is urging troops to resist being deployed.

"We’re trying to rebuild the GI resistance movement," said Hughes, referring to the sweeping efforts veterans and service members made to end the Vietnam War. "We don't want our brothers and sisters participating in this authoritarian adventurism."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/10/03/vets-call-on-national-guard-to-refuse-deployment-orders/86243828007/?tbref=hp

This is what helped end the Vietnam war.

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Can National Guardsmen deployed to US cities claim conscientious objection? (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Saturday OP
I think they should go, but set an example for the others. nt Ilsa Saturday #1
And still retain their position in the Guard? stopdiggin Saturday #2
Seems like how the anti-vaxxers and anti- Choice Fundies demanded exemptions. UTUSN Sunday #3
I suppose not, until they are actually ordered to KILL someone....... Jack Valentino Sunday #4
Those of you who are old enough will remember Jilly_in_VA Sunday #5

stopdiggin

(14,484 posts)
2. And still retain their position in the Guard?
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 11:29 PM
Saturday

This is a really different question than refusing 'unlawful' ..

Jilly_in_VA

(13,256 posts)
5. Those of you who are old enough will remember
Sun Oct 5, 2025, 08:42 AM
Sunday

that joining the National Guard (if you could get in) was a way of avoiding getting sent to Vietnam. Didn't help when Iraq came along, however. I vividly remember a video of a Louisiana guardsman watching his home being destroyed by Katrina while he sat in Iraq. He should have been THERE, not thousands of miles away. Remember the old commercial, "Sleep soundly tonight. Your National Guard is awake."? Yeah, right.

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