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raccoon

(32,075 posts)
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 04:47 PM Oct 4

Why did Trump's handlers allow Trump and Hegseth to have that silly performance in Quantico,

and have all the senior officers in the military sent there, all in the same place?

What if somebody had bombed the building, as in the Oklahoma City bombing?

What if a terrorist act like 9/11 occurred while that sideshow was going on? Or a natural disaster?

WTF were the puppeteers thinking about?
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Why did Trump's handlers allow Trump and Hegseth to have that silly performance in Quantico, (Original Post) raccoon Oct 4 OP
They didn't care. The military are just trained monkeys, and suckers/losers. Irish_Dem Oct 4 #1
Wrong. They didn't care, but the military are not just trained monkey, and suckers/losers. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 4 #6
To these goons they are GenThePerservering Oct 4 #10
Bernardo don't you know I am using sarcastic hyperbole as usual? Irish_Dem Oct 4 #11
To enter all of their faces into an AI database LyfeTimeDem Oct 4 #2
Lev Parnas is just speculating and presents no evidence, though it is barely possible it might be true. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 4 #7
"Some douchebag knows a guy" is not a great source JoseBalow Oct 4 #12
I'm telling you it IS possible LyfeTimeDem Oct 4 #18
Nobody is saying that it is NOT possible JoseBalow Oct 4 #19
its pretty fucking obvious.... LyfeTimeDem Oct 4 #21
who the hell cares who the source is LyfeTimeDem Oct 4 #26
The source always matters. Ms. Toad Oct 5 #30
what difference does it matter LyfeTimeDem Oct 5 #32
Facts, not opinions, were asserted without a means to identify if they were accurate. Ms. Toad Oct 5 #33
Giant eye roll LyfeTimeDem Oct 5 #34
That seems like a very risky gambit. Turbineguy Oct 4 #15
Why? LyfeTimeDem Oct 4 #16
The gathering was likely all Trump's idea. His handlers appear completely incapable of reining him in. sop Oct 4 #3
Handlers? He ain't got handlers LyfeTimeDem Oct 4 #20
You pretty much fucking nailed it. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 4 #28
It was an invitation to the world to LIHOP (let it happen on purpose) taxi Oct 4 #4
Were any of the planes that crashed....part of the exercises going on, 9/11? OAITW r.2.0 Oct 4 #29
Was just a public announcement to russia and china that they can get away with anything with dumb and dumber in chargent ImNotGod Oct 4 #5
Trump doesn't have handlers JI7 Oct 4 #8
agree.....he has "Users" now LyfeTimeDem Oct 4 #22
That's my take as well Bayard Oct 5 #31
His 'handlers' are not omniscient 'puppeteers' muriel_volestrangler Oct 4 #9
You forget, they are stupid. CanonRay Oct 4 #13
Trump and Whisky Pete are yes LyfeTimeDem Oct 4 #23
Because D_Master81 Oct 4 #14
Because of all the awful things he wanted to do Johonny Oct 4 #17
we are only 9 months in... LyfeTimeDem Oct 4 #24
Putin's idea for his puppets. Bet he suggested it in Alaska Arazi Oct 4 #25
When there was a family reunion in Scotland, my parents, my dad's sister and his brother-in-law applegrove Oct 4 #27
Because it was "a look". no_hypocrisy Oct 5 #35

Irish_Dem

(76,117 posts)
1. They didn't care. The military are just trained monkeys, and suckers/losers.
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 05:00 PM
Oct 4

Completely disposable and replaceable.

They know ICE agents could take over the jobs in a heartbeat.

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,462 posts)
6. Wrong. They didn't care, but the military are not just trained monkey, and suckers/losers. . . . . nt
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 06:08 PM
Oct 4

Irish_Dem

(76,117 posts)
11. Bernardo don't you know I am using sarcastic hyperbole as usual?
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 06:38 PM
Oct 4

I am a military kid.
I was raised in the US military and proud of it.

 

LyfeTimeDem

(252 posts)
2. To enter all of their faces into an AI database
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 05:07 PM
Oct 4

But they aren't Nazis

Trump Used AI to Scan U.S. Generals' Faces for Loyalty -- and to Root Out Whistleblowers -- Lev Parnas

https://levremembers.substack.com/p/breaking-trump-used-ai-to-scan-us

On the Jewish Day of Atonement, America Must Reckon With a President Who Never Repents

. . .

After breaking fast tonight, while preparing for dinner and catching up on the flood of missed calls and messages, I heard from sources I trust. And what I heard stopped me cold.

The reason Trump and Pete Hegseth gathered all those generals in one room was not just about a loyalty speech or a pep rally. I’m hearing that the Trump team used artificial intelligence and facial-recognition technology during those briefings to monitor the generals’ reactions in real time. Every eyebrow raise, every flicker of doubt, every moment of discomfort was scanned and analyzed by an algorithm designed to detect who would obey orders without question—and who might resist.

I’m also hearing from my sources that this isn’t limited to the generals. This same technology is being used as a tool inside Trump’s orbit — a quiet weapon of power, deployed by his loyalists to identify and weed out whistleblowers and anyone who isn’t completely obedient. This is how authoritarian power consolidates itself — by quietly monitoring every reaction, every hesitation, every private doubt, and turning it into a scorecard of allegiance.

This is the quiet introduction of a new loyalty test: not just pledging allegiance to Trump, but being scanned and scored by AI for obedience. It’s the kind of surveillance authoritarian regimes use to root out dissent before it begins. And now it’s being deployed against the highest levels of America’s own military leadership.

This isn’t just unprecedented—it’s terrifying. It is the fusion of authoritarian power with the tools of modern surveillance. And it’s happening here, in our country, under our eyes.

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,462 posts)
7. Lev Parnas is just speculating and presents no evidence, though it is barely possible it might be true. . . nt
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 06:09 PM
Oct 4

JoseBalow

(8,648 posts)
12. "Some douchebag knows a guy" is not a great source
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 06:47 PM
Oct 4

But I suppose it is possible. I'd want to hear it from a better source before believing it, though.

 

LyfeTimeDem

(252 posts)
18. I'm telling you it IS possible
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 08:47 PM
Oct 4

of that there I am sure.

I have one word and one name for you that should make the lightbulb go on...

Palantir....

and Peter Theil.

While Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos and Richard Branson are building Rocketships to go to Mars.....Peter Theil is investing the Matrix.....this is why DOGE is putting your Social Security and Tax Databases in the cloud....not to go to Mars.....to control YOU and I...

JoseBalow

(8,648 posts)
19. Nobody is saying that it is NOT possible
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 08:52 PM
Oct 4

Only that Lev Fucking Parnas quoting who-knows-who is not a reliable source that it actually happened.

 

LyfeTimeDem

(252 posts)
21. its pretty fucking obvious....
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 09:14 PM
Oct 4

Peter Theil....look him up. THAT is a dude to know more about.
....

 

LyfeTimeDem

(252 posts)
26. who the hell cares who the source is
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 09:28 PM
Oct 4

Its not the point ....if you are dismissing it because its him....then that is exactly what you are doing. And he probably still has a source or two in his pocket. He had access to KGB money to bribe politicians with at some point.

Again.....Peter Theil for $1000 Alex.

Ms. Toad

(37,856 posts)
30. The source always matters.
Sun Oct 5, 2025, 12:00 AM
Oct 5

Do you believe Trump when he says "people are saying. . . "? If you don't, then the source matters.

 

LyfeTimeDem

(252 posts)
32. what difference does it matter
Sun Oct 5, 2025, 12:41 AM
Oct 5

He has an opinion......and so do I....mine agrees with him.



I have nearly 40+ yrs in IT....does that help?

Palantir.....thats what we are not focusing on......they have EVERYTHING YOU HAVE EVER GOOGLED, POSTED OR TEXTED....they also have your Social Security Numbers....Employers... Address Phone Number, Bank Account and Tax Information all in the Cloud in one giant Database now they can cross-reference......and know EVRRYTHING about you in seconds because of Ai.....

I guarantee you by now. ..they have a giant database of human facial expressions they can measure in millimeters (because they want to make robots that have and use facial expression recognition). While they invested Billions in Rocket Research technology...

Peter Theil....who calls Curtis Yarvin, Author of "The Great Enlightenment" his **Guru**...
Peter Theil who literally bought JD Vance's Senate Seat for him.

I might remind you that both Peter Theil and Curtis Yarvin DO NOT believe in Democracy, DO NOT believe in the people having the right to vote to decide their fates....to make it more palatable...they colloquially call themselves "Monarchists".

Was investing in THIS:

Palantir is a data analytics technology company that develops software platforms to help organizations, including governments and commercial businesses, integrate, manage, and secure large, complex datasets to make data-driven decisions and achieve mission outcomes. Founded in 2003, it offers platforms like Palantir Gotham and Foundry to clients in sectors such as defense, healthcare, finance, and manufacturing, providing AI-powered tools for tasks ranging from national security to vaccine distribution and tax fraud identification.

Including:

Palantir Gotham: A platform with strong roots in counterterrorism, used by governments to understand and defend against evolving national security threats


Palantir is arguably one of the most notorious corporations in contemporary America. Cofounded by libertarian tech billionaire Peter Thiel, the software firm's work with Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the US Department of Defense, and the Israeli military has sparked numerous protests in multiple countries. Palantir has been so infamous for so long that, for some people, its name has become a cultural shorthand for dystopian surveillance.

From people who used to work for them:

?si=v9Q2YN7PycbUAYSr

Ms. Toad

(37,856 posts)
33. Facts, not opinions, were asserted without a means to identify if they were accurate.
Sun Oct 5, 2025, 01:38 AM
Oct 5

The source matters in evaluating whether what was asserted was true

Even assuming everything you have asserted about the capability is true, that isn't what was asserted. What was asserted was that it has deployed in the generals meeting. And there is no identifiable source to help evaluate whether that assertion was true.

 

LyfeTimeDem

(252 posts)
34. Giant eye roll
Sun Oct 5, 2025, 02:09 AM
Oct 5

How would one possibly verify that???

I am using my OWN 40 yrs of experience with Technology and evidence I gathered and just presented.

If you think it WASN'T used in that room for that reason you are really out of touch with where we are...

?si=JhajB3vThNtqsp3l


Do you somehow think that wasnt exactly what DOGE was doing?

Good luck to you...
 

LyfeTimeDem

(252 posts)
16. Why?
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 08:37 PM
Oct 4

Trump doesnt weigh risks. Do you not understand anything about him yet. He thinks he is the next best thing to God itself.

He is building his own Temu throne room. He is not planning to ever leave.

sop

(16,402 posts)
3. The gathering was likely all Trump's idea. His handlers appear completely incapable of reining him in.
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 05:08 PM
Oct 4
 

LyfeTimeDem

(252 posts)
20. Handlers? He ain't got handlers
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 08:58 PM
Oct 4

He has them making Fox News Style PDB's to propagandize that crazy fucking bastard to do whatever they want....Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller are in control of all that. They make sure he gets his daily feeding of compliments telling him how "handsome and smart" he is and how he is the "best President in history" and why.

Thats how the "Medbed" shit got in front of him..it was an oops somebody forgot to turn of the YouTube video at the one of them, they were feeding him. They otherwise let him do whatever else his vengeance filled fever brain can come up with as long as he doesn't interfere in what they are doing...destroying America to make it into their own image. Project 2025 is 48% complete....they have 3+ more years to complete it. ......then comes the "fun part" The Dark Enlightement....when the TechDudeBros....kick the Religious Nutters at the Heritage Foundation aside....and they implement their Ai GamerBrain future for humanity.


Things are much much worse than people realize.

.

taxi

(2,566 posts)
4. It was an invitation to the world to LIHOP (let it happen on purpose)
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 05:29 PM
Oct 4

I believe at least some of the bastards were hoping for a few uprisings across the globe with military leadership away from their posts. Perhaps as few as three minor attacks against military interests would be enough for the current administration to claim international allegiances were attempting to overthrow our government in a period of perceived weakness. Trump and company want their own shock and awe campaign.

OAITW r.2.0

(30,737 posts)
29. Were any of the planes that crashed....part of the exercises going on, 9/11?
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 10:06 PM
Oct 4

Raytheon lost their entire RC group on one flight.

ImNotGod

(1,194 posts)
5. Was just a public announcement to russia and china that they can get away with anything with dumb and dumber in chargent
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 05:46 PM
Oct 4

JI7

(92,768 posts)
8. Trump doesn't have handlers
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 06:15 PM
Oct 4

Not like in the first term.

He got scared or jealous that they were going to do something that could take away from him and decided to go on his own.

Bayard

(27,377 posts)
31. That's my take as well
Sun Oct 5, 2025, 12:01 AM
Oct 5

The reason he decided to tag along at the last minute. He wanted the spotlight, and obviously thought he was going to get standing ovations.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,968 posts)
9. His 'handlers' are not omniscient 'puppeteers'
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 06:27 PM
Oct 4

They're people with their own prejudices (and pride), who are out to get what they can for themselves. Hegseth wanted to lord it over the generals who represented the establishment that decided he wasn't good enough for promotion. Trump wanted to play "commander-in-chief" too. The "handlers" (Miller, basically) either couldn't change his mind, or decided that on balance, the MAGA base would like the display and wouldn't think it "silly".

The security at Quantico will be top; you can't just ""bomb it like Oklahoma City".

D_Master81

(2,235 posts)
14. Because
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 08:09 PM
Oct 4

No one says no to the dear leader when he wants something. And there’s nothing more that those in this administration want than a good photo op to make them look strong and important.

Johonny

(24,854 posts)
17. Because of all the awful things he wanted to do
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 08:38 PM
Oct 4

That was the least awful. Imagine the shit he wants to do they're talking him out of.

applegrove

(128,699 posts)
27. When there was a family reunion in Scotland, my parents, my dad's sister and his brother-in-law
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 09:38 PM
Oct 4

Last edited Sat Oct 4, 2025, 10:28 PM - Edit history (1)

were going from Ottawa. My Aunt was my Dad's only sibling. The two couples booked themselves on different flights, on different days, just in case something happened to one flight. Like that. I can't imagine 800 generals would be less of a target these days.

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