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Swede

(37,512 posts)
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 01:54 PM Saturday

Joy Reid "Why are you all so angry??"

Why are y’all so angry?
You have the White House,
you have both houses of congress,
you have the Supreme Court that's completely obedient to the President, they give him unlimited power,
they are willing to say that he can take Seal Team Six and kill anybody he wants, and they are willing to affirm that,
they are willing to say that ICE can racially profile anybody they want,
the US Supreme Court has said you can racially profile Latinos based on their accent or the way they look,
you guys have everything you want,
legal racial profiling,
you've ended DEI,
you ended Affirmative Action,
you get all the best jobs even if you are not qualified,
you can be a Fox Weekend Host and be the Defense Department's Secretary of Defense,
you can be Kash Patel a Podcaster who wants to go to Valhalla and run the FBI as long as you are conservative,
you have everything, why are y'all angry?
WTF are you angry about?
You banned all of our books,
you have banned Black History,
banned the 1619 Project,
you don't have to compete with women for jobs,
you have chased them out of the military,
you have chased them out of the Department of Defense,
you have gotten rid of all the Black History in museums,
museums are terrified,
the people who work for the Federal Government are afraid to say the word Black,
you guys have cancelled Black Scholarships,
you are damn near ready to get rid of HBCUs,
Donald Trump just recently said they are not going to fund any minority serving institutions, y’all have gotten rid of that,
you have gotten rid of scholarships for Black kids to go to college, what more do you want?

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Joy Reid "Why are you all so angry??" (Original Post) Swede Saturday OP
Because nothing will ever be enough to fill the holes in their souls. Irish_Dem Saturday #1
Will never be enough kerouac2 Saturday #2
That's what they're paid for, and they know propaganda's life blood is based on emotion not reason. Uncle Joe Saturday #3
Love Joy John Coktosten Saturday #4
Nailed it malaise Saturday #5
They want that thar Social Secuitee money. chouchou Saturday #6
The cult will not rest until all non-cultists are dead or silenced. dalton99a Saturday #7
And then they will turn on each other Prof. Toru Tanaka Saturday #45
I understand her rhetorical point, but this is getting uncomfortably close to defeatism. sop Saturday #8
Yeah, some days feel like that. Joinfortmill Saturday #16
She is speaking from a place of despair Keepthesoulalive Saturday #25
feeling as I do as a straight white gal Skittles Saturday #26
Joy Reid Is Standing Up In Defiance And Calling For Others To Join Her DallasNE Saturday #39
There are tens of millions of Americans who literally will NEVER, for as long as they live, RockRaven Saturday #9
You know what drives that malaise Saturday #12
This old girl thinks Obama was possibly the smartest, most elegant President ever. JFK was another one.. Joinfortmill Saturday #19
One of those racists is trump, Bayard Saturday #28
According to Vance, they want you to say "Thank you!" Beartracks Saturday #10
C'mon, zip tie some more children ya fucking losers..... Blue Owl Saturday #11
To post a YT Short: littlemissmartypants Saturday #13
Excellent ... and please don't forget Diamond_Dog Saturday #14
Well, that about covers it. Back to the last century. The hate I have for these montherf*ckers is beyond measure. Joinfortmill Saturday #15
A quote from the 19983 movie "Tombstone" AverageOldGuy Saturday #17
Hell hole... BattleRow Saturday #22
It's a hate cult. It's like an addiction, the more hate, cruelty, and violence they Gaugamela Saturday #18
Over the decades, there has been a gradual erosion in the self-esteem of many people who are now MAGA dedl67 Saturday #20
Excellent succinct analysis. llmart Saturday #41
I grew up in the South in the 1950s. The notion of innate white male superiority was then considered a fact. dedl67 Sunday #49
I am 100% with Joy Reid on this -- she says what I have been thinking Hekate Saturday #21
Hatred is all they have iemanja Saturday #23
Ive heard of love hate relationships. BattleRow Saturday #24
Is THIS what kicked off vladimir futon's "gratitude" screech??? niyad Saturday #27
I suspect a lot of the anger, as well as its intensity, comes from their Dear Leader. ShazzieB Saturday #29
because their family and friends can't stand them. and think they deserve the respect of their family and friends. boston bean Saturday #30
They know that they are dying. Collimator Saturday #31
Agree. love_katz Saturday #40
It's "Extinction Burst." Wednesdays Saturday #46
LOVE that Lao Tzu quote! calimary Sunday #47
Some people aren't happy unless they're unhappy. 3catwoman3 Saturday #32
Joy's Mom enid602 Saturday #33
They are not done. They want voting rights repealed. All civil rights and environmental protection gone. n/t Evolve Dammit Saturday #34
More? Trump wanted a sword from the Eisenhower Library in Abiline,Ks Bengus81 Saturday #35
I saw this live and loved it. LittleGirl Saturday #36
Short answer, total subjugation CanonRay Saturday #37
They're angry because normal people won't validate their evil natures mdbl Saturday #38
Excellent! K&R brer cat Saturday #42
"what more do you want?" Takket Saturday #43
I think there are some better questions to ask. Queso Delicioso Saturday #44
It's not just you. Boomerproud Sunday #51
They're angry because they know they are a dying breed. progressoid Sunday #48
Someone told me a long time ago something that might explain some of this Playingmantis Sunday #50
They want genocide, they are clearly working themselves up into a rabid lather, aiming for a Rwanda-type event Blues Heron Sunday #52
They've been programmed to be mad. The Emile Sunday #53

Irish_Dem

(75,816 posts)
1. Because nothing will ever be enough to fill the holes in their souls.
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 02:01 PM
Saturday

No amount of money, power, death, destruction will make them happy.

kerouac2

(1,319 posts)
2. Will never be enough
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 02:02 PM
Saturday

Anyone who isn't one of them is a cockroach who needs to be exterminated. This includes the people who think they are with them, but who will also be gotten rid of when their usefulness ends. Those folks will just be the last to go.

Remember, it's that hate and anger that binds them. It keeps them going. It sells their hats and crap.

Uncle Joe

(63,333 posts)
3. That's what they're paid for, and they know propaganda's life blood is based on emotion not reason.
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 02:03 PM
Saturday

When the only tools that you have in your toolbox are anger and fear, that's all you can use.

Thanks for the thread Swede.

chouchou

(2,423 posts)
6. They want that thar Social Secuitee money.
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 02:19 PM
Saturday

The elder people could do the baby sitters and pick up trash and Walmart likes them old people to greet the folks coming in.

sop

(16,331 posts)
8. I understand her rhetorical point, but this is getting uncomfortably close to defeatism.
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 02:23 PM
Saturday

Keepthesoulalive

(1,875 posts)
25. She is speaking from a place of despair
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 04:22 PM
Saturday

Because the people of America have decided that the cruelty this administration is showing its citizens is okay. Black folks are tired of fighting for this country to live up to its ideals and values while white folks believe the nonsense Fox News and their evangelical preachers tell them. The elections should not be close but they vote for republicans who set the entire country back because of their racism. Oh yeah not all white people.

Skittles

(167,914 posts)
26. feeling as I do as a straight white gal
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 04:47 PM
Saturday

I can only imagine what it feels like for POC, LGBTQ, immigrants, etc.

still, you are correct, it is important we NEVER give up fighting these fascist fucks........NEVER

DallasNE

(7,879 posts)
39. Joy Reid Is Standing Up In Defiance And Calling For Others To Join Her
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 08:53 PM
Saturday

That is the opposite of defeatism, as I read it. Also, now that the rule of law has broken down, how do you fix it? That is a valid question. You don't blame the scorekeeper. You start brainstorming.

RockRaven

(18,116 posts)
9. There are tens of millions of Americans who literally will NEVER, for as long as they live,
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 02:31 PM
Saturday

get over the fact that a black man was elected POTUS. Their brains/psyches were permanently changed by that, and there is no going back for them.

No depraved or psycho behavior done in their name will ever be enough to appease them, their appetite for performative gestures of hurting others is insatiable no matter what it costs them personally (note that they will complain about any collateral damage to themselves, yet that won't cause a reverse on their desire to see others hurt).

There is an emptiness inside of them which can never be filled -- all because other Americans picked a black guy to lead/hold power. And most of them are in denial about what is driving them.

malaise

(289,842 posts)
12. You know what drives that
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 03:20 PM
Saturday

Fear - what if those other races and ethnicities do to us what we did and continue to do to them?

Joinfortmill

(19,082 posts)
19. This old girl thinks Obama was possibly the smartest, most elegant President ever. JFK was another one..
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 03:33 PM
Saturday

Diamond_Dog

(38,673 posts)
14. Excellent ... and please don't forget
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 03:22 PM
Saturday

How they have caused the preventable death and untold suffering of many many women and young girls by outlawing basic reproductive health care for women.

Joinfortmill

(19,082 posts)
15. Well, that about covers it. Back to the last century. The hate I have for these montherf*ckers is beyond measure.
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 03:28 PM
Saturday

AverageOldGuy

(3,036 posts)
17. A quote from the 19983 movie "Tombstone"
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 03:31 PM
Saturday

Doc Holliday:

A man like Ringo has got a great big hole, right in the middle of him. He can never kill enough, or steal enough, or inflict enough pain to ever fill it.

Gaugamela

(3,029 posts)
18. It's a hate cult. It's like an addiction, the more hate, cruelty, and violence they
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 03:31 PM
Saturday

inflict the more they need to up the ante to feel the buzz. It’s a vicious cycle of destruction leading to annihilation. They lie awake at night praying for the rapture because they hate their lives and they hate the world.

They are Christian nihilists rebelling against their failed god. I have no doubt they secretly pray for their orange anti-savior to hit the “N” button.

dedl67

(100 posts)
20. Over the decades, there has been a gradual erosion in the self-esteem of many people who are now MAGA
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 03:38 PM
Saturday

The election of Barack Obama was one more blow to that self-esteem. They hate every symbol of the loss of status that they formerly derived from the mere fact that they were born white and male, and every symbol that reminds them that the role of white males, especially white Christian males, in American history has been anything less than glorious. Any success that women or blacks or immigrants achieves reminds them of their own mediocrity. So, all those things must be crushed.

llmart

(16,931 posts)
41. Excellent succinct analysis.
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 10:05 PM
Saturday

This country did them no favors by instilling in them the notion that somehow they were superior just because they were white males by birth.

dedl67

(100 posts)
49. I grew up in the South in the 1950s. The notion of innate white male superiority was then considered a fact.
Sun Oct 5, 2025, 07:20 AM
Sunday

iemanja

(56,876 posts)
23. Hatred is all they have
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 04:02 PM
Saturday

They aren't interested in policies to improve America. Instead, they want to "own the libs" and make everyone as miserable as they are.

BattleRow

(1,864 posts)
24. Ive heard of love hate relationships.
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 04:02 PM
Saturday

Is it possible to love their hate even more than they love their (or our) money?

ShazzieB

(21,714 posts)
29. I suspect a lot of the anger, as well as its intensity, comes from their Dear Leader.
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 05:08 PM
Saturday

HE will not be happy until and unless of the following are completely eliminated from this country:

● all LGBTQIA+ people
● all non white people (or most; he might keep a few for doing things like garbarge collection and other manual labor)
● all feminists (he'd eliminate all women if he could, but he knows some are still needed for sex, procreation, and housekeeping)
● all Democrats, liberals, progressives, and "woke" people of every stripe
● all those whose first language is anything other than English
● all those who don't meet dear leader's standards of physical perfection, including fat people, short people, women whose boobs aren't big enough to suit Dear Leader, anyone with any kind of visible disability or imperfection (what constitutes either of these to be defined by him)
● all those who are highly educated in any field he doesn't approve of or at any institution he doesn't approve of
● all those who are intellectually curious and/or prone to forming opinions of their own that don't perfectly match his
● the list goes on and on, but I'm sure you get the idea

The MAGA are angry at most of of the people on this list because Dear Leader has convinced them that "those people" have it in for them and are the cause of all their problems. This makes them angry; and he stokes that anger every chance he gets, over and over again, which makes them even angrier.

Their level of commitment varies, from those who are already getting tired of him to those who will always worship him unquestioningly as long as he keeps assuring them that he is "fighting for them." I suspect that the latter group has gotten smaller since his second term started and will continue to shrink as long as he keeps fucking up spectacularly, which he is bound to do. Time will tell.

boston bean

(36,814 posts)
30. because their family and friends can't stand them. and think they deserve the respect of their family and friends.
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 05:21 PM
Saturday

fuck em all to hell and back.

Collimator

(2,000 posts)
31. They know that they are dying.
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 05:22 PM
Saturday

I touched on this theory on another thread about why are MAGA people so angry.

Like wasps at the end of the summer, some glimmer of a signal is getting through to their brains that their time is ending, so they become more aggressive.

Despite their current power position in the United States, the world IS moving on past them. Women are being elected to important political positions in other countries and they are contributing to their economies and making scientific discoveries.

Formerly colonized people of color are finding their voices and are advocating for the preservation of their cultures and their seats at the table within mainstream power structures.

Study after study shows younger generations are more accepting of LBGTQ + identities and perspectives.

Despite all the setbacks that we may experience here and read about in other parts of the world, the shift towards liberal values is happening. As our current regime focuses on pulling us back socially, they can't keep one hand on the hammer of oppression and have the other hand free to stoke the fires of innovation and economic advancement. It just doesn't work that way.

You want to be the best? You want to lead the world in technological innovation? You need educated people; and educated people question the status quo. That's how innovation is fostered in technology and social movements.

You also can't suppress the capabilities of large portions of the population without sacrificing the potential contributions that their members can make towards the goal of advancement in any field. That's a counterproductive strategy and it will grind a nation's movement forward-- in any sphere-- to a halt.

Would America have landed on the moon if Katherine Johnson had been told to shut up about math and stick to scrubbing floors as she was "supposed" to be doing? No matter how many other people were involved in the Space Program, no matter how much opposition there may have been to accepting her contributions and no matter how long those contributions went unacknowledged, she WAS there and that is why it happened.

You take the contributions of all the non-White Males out of the equation and many of humanity's achievements never come to pass.

So, the old White Male Power Structure and the concept of unlimited Capitalism is dying because it simply cannot be sustained. Most of them sense it on an inchoate level; a few are intelligent enough to recognize it. Their response will be to fight until the bitter end, clinging to their comforts and privileges and taking down as many of their perceived enemies with them as they can.

It may, indeed, get even uglier than it already is. But when their end comes amid the destruction that they themselves have wrought, something will emerge. Like a blade of grass pushing through concrete, those that inherit a changed world will have to embrace flexibility and tolerance. Because Soft is stronger than Hard.

"Water is fluid, soft, and yielding. But water will wear away rock, which is rigid and cannot yield. As a rule, whatever is fluid, soft, and yielding will overcome whatever is rigid and hard. This is another paradox: what is soft is strong." ― Lao Tzu


They are angry. Their anger is a jagged rock wielded as a weapon of destruction. But water is needed for creation and the continuance of life. And that, they cannot wield, because water is compassion and empathy. Water is fluid thinking and tolerance. Water is the acceptance of change.

The whole Universe is founded on change and change is what they hate. So, you bet that they're angry. But anger won't stop the Universe from changing around them. Nothing ever will.

love_katz

(3,176 posts)
40. Agree.
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 09:20 PM
Saturday

There's an old saying that the only things we can count on are death and taxes. From my perspective, the one thing we can count on is CHANGE.
Liberals and progressives are better able to cope with change because we're flexible, not stiff and rigid.

calimary

(88,005 posts)
47. LOVE that Lao Tzu quote!
Sun Oct 5, 2025, 12:42 AM
Sunday

It’s definitely a keeper!

"Water is fluid, soft, and yielding. But water will wear away rock, which is rigid and cannot yield. As a rule, whatever is fluid, soft, and yielding will overcome whatever is rigid and hard. This is another paradox: what is soft is strong."
― Lao Tzu

3catwoman3

(27,854 posts)
32. Some people aren't happy unless they're unhappy.
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 05:22 PM
Saturday

What a miserable existence that must be.

enid602

(9,552 posts)
33. Joy's Mom
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 06:25 PM
Saturday

Joy’s Mom worked most of her carreer at Bonwit Teller, the exclusive Department Store in New York City. She had to stay in the back room, far from the exclusive white patrons on the sales floor. She ultimately was able to sell to white ladies.

Thank you, Joy’s Mom.

Ultimately, Bonwit was torn down to make room for Trump Tower.

Evolve Dammit

(21,266 posts)
34. They are not done. They want voting rights repealed. All civil rights and environmental protection gone. n/t
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 06:55 PM
Saturday

Bengus81

(9,490 posts)
35. More? Trump wanted a sword from the Eisenhower Library in Abiline,Ks
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 07:05 PM
Saturday

Last edited Sun Oct 5, 2025, 08:57 AM - Edit history (1)

that Ike had received in 1947 to give to King Charles for some reason. The Director at the Museum told the Trump Admin no we can't do that and since he's a Government worker he was fucking fired after nearly 30 years of service.

I want that FUCKER to drop dead tonight! Or better yet have a massive stroke.

Queso Delicioso

(121 posts)
44. I think there are some better questions to ask.
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 10:23 PM
Saturday

Like "why have they gotten away with doing this" and "when are we going to make them pay" and maybe "what are we going to do to make them never dare to try it again" but maybe that's just me.

progressoid

(52,065 posts)
48. They're angry because they know they are a dying breed.
Sun Oct 5, 2025, 12:51 AM
Sunday

They know that as time goes on, they can't stop the people with funny sounding names and the wrong skin color from gaining power.

They know the myth of the American exceptionalism is bullshit.

And some even know deep down that they screwed up by supporting a grifting millionaire.

Playingmantis

(466 posts)
50. Someone told me a long time ago something that might explain some of this
Sun Oct 5, 2025, 09:51 AM
Sunday

He told me the greatest fear of them is that someday minorities might treat them the same way they have treated minorities..
I think that and talk radio which rewards the most extreme, FOX News and the primary system have all brought out the worse of the ignorant.

Blues Heron

(7,699 posts)
52. They want genocide, they are clearly working themselves up into a rabid lather, aiming for a Rwanda-type event
Sun Oct 5, 2025, 10:19 AM
Sunday
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