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Ocelot II

(127,564 posts)
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 08:05 AM Saturday

More about the text messages about sending the 82nd Airborne to Portland:

How they authenticated the story:
https://www.startribune.com/editors-note-how-we-reported-on-text-messages-between-senior-trump-administration-officials/601485730
Gift link: https://www.startribune.com/editors-note-how-we-reported-on-text-messages-between-senior-trump-administration-officials/601485730?utm_source=gift

The original story:

Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth considered sending an elite U.S. Army strike force to Portland, Ore., to quell protests that President Donald Trump has characterized as “lawless mayhem,” according to images of messages provided to the Minnesota Star Tribune.

The messages, casually exchanged last weekend in a crowded, public space, show high-level officials in the Trump administration discussing the deployment of the Army’s 82nd Airborne, an infantry division that has been parachuted into combat zones in both world wars, Vietnam and Afghanistan. If the administration were to send in the Army division, it would almost certainly be challenged in court under federal laws limiting how the military can be used domestically.

The Trump administration ordered National Guard troops — not the 82nd Airborne — to Portland this week. The messages suggest that the once-extraordinary step of sending military troops into an American city has been normalized within the administration, the subject of a chat in a public place.

Anthony Salisbury, a deputy to White House top policy adviser Stephen Miller, sent the texts over the private messaging app Signal while traveling in Minnesota and in clear view of others. Troubled by seeing sensitive military planning discussed so openly, a source contacted the Star Tribune and allowed a reporter to review images of the texts.


Gift link: https://www.startribune.com/trump-officials-discussed-sending-elite-army-division-to-portland-text-messages-show/601485729?utm_source=gift
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More about the text messages about sending the 82nd Airborne to Portland: (Original Post) Ocelot II Saturday OP
Very careful journalism. Professional. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Saturday #1
Where is this lawless mayhem? I've seen NO news of massive protests. Callie1979 Saturday #2
The lawlessness is in the White House -- Hegseth, Miller, Trump, and other co-conspirators. eppur_se_muova Saturday #5
"If the administration were to send in the Army division, it would almost certainly be challenged in court..." OldBaldy1701E Saturday #3
UHH, the 101st airborne was deployed to Little Rock in 1957. LiberalArkie Saturday #13
For reasons which were the opposite of why they would be deployed today. OldBaldy1701E Sunday #17
Exact opposite, in Arkansas they were brought in as peace keepers. They did that with no violence even from the police. LiberalArkie Sunday #18
That's my fear as well. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Sunday #19
There were no US paratroopers in WWI. Harker Saturday #4
110%... journalists are soooooo useless. WarGamer Sunday #20
Lazy mistakes and lies seem to just glide through the gates that editors used to protect. Harker Sunday #21
So the sloppy drunk and his rapist boss moniss Saturday #6
Why not just go all the way and send in Seal Team 6? Arazi Saturday #7
"Lawless mayhem" is their Confession and Projection. Dem4life1970 Saturday #8
Let's send the 82nd and 101st airborne to the WHITE House---- Jack Valentino Saturday #9
I know this is pedantic, but...gonna do it anyway. COL Mustard Saturday #10
Rove: 'we create our own reality....' nt wiggs Saturday #11
Trump: 'Am I watching things on television that are different from what's happening?' Swede Saturday #12
HUGE REC for this post!!! Martin Eden Saturday #15
And there it is..."Anthony Salisbury, a deputy to...STEPHEN MILLER, sent the texts..." Grins Saturday #14
It is good that the judge in OR put the kibosh on the grifter sending in troops (specifically National Guard). yellow dahlia Saturday #16

eppur_se_muova

(40,241 posts)
5. The lawlessness is in the White House -- Hegseth, Miller, Trump, and other co-conspirators.
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 09:42 AM
Saturday

They put the CO in RICO.

OldBaldy1701E

(9,238 posts)
3. "If the administration were to send in the Army division, it would almost certainly be challenged in court..."
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 09:37 AM
Saturday

Which would do what exactly? They will just ignore the court order.

Even if they decide to honor it, the damage will have already been done. They will have already gone in, destroyed places, and arrested indiscriminately, and those that they came after will have no choice other than to be hauled away in chains.

As long as we keep letting them do it. Which, unfortunately...

OldBaldy1701E

(9,238 posts)
17. For reasons which were the opposite of why they would be deployed today.
Sun Oct 5, 2025, 07:02 AM
Sunday

That was also because the state was unable to protect those kids. They were brought in as support. Not to run amok through the streets trying to find some reason to be there in the first place.

But, I was not even born yet, and I am not from there, so I can only go by what I am reading about it.

LiberalArkie

(19,015 posts)
18. Exact opposite, in Arkansas they were brought in as peace keepers. They did that with no violence even from the police.
Sun Oct 5, 2025, 10:14 AM
Sunday

But today, I believe only the most racist, white supremacists would be sent to stir the pot.

Harker

(16,934 posts)
21. Lazy mistakes and lies seem to just glide through the gates that editors used to protect.
Sun Oct 5, 2025, 06:05 PM
Sunday

moniss

(8,141 posts)
6. So the sloppy drunk and his rapist boss
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 09:54 AM
Saturday

were going to have the 82nd parachute into Portland? The only other way would be by vehicle which would be as equally silly of a display. Either way would be a laughable spectacle making the whole thing justifiably ridiculed.

Jack Valentino

(3,474 posts)
9. Let's send the 82nd and 101st airborne to the WHITE House----
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 10:09 AM
Saturday

There's a lot of NAZIs in there !!!!!


"LOCK AND LOAD"!


COL Mustard

(7,628 posts)
10. I know this is pedantic, but...gonna do it anyway.
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 10:22 AM
Saturday

The 82nd didn't jump in both world wars. We didn't have an Airborne force until about 1940, in time for WW2. The 82nd was a traditional Infantry Division during WW1.

Swede

(37,509 posts)
12. Trump: 'Am I watching things on television that are different from what's happening?'
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 10:32 AM
Saturday

Why is one of the most extraordinary, revelatory quotes ever uttered by Donald Trump being ignored by the national media?

I’ll tell you why: Because it raises all sort of questions about his mental functioning and agency that the access-dependent Washington press corps would rather not acknowledge.

It confirms that Trump has no idea what he’s talking about. And it suggests he is either easily deceived, or manipulated, or both.

The quote in question came from a telephone interview Trump held on Sunday morning with NBC News White House correspondent Yamiche Alcindor.

https://presswatchers.org/2025/09/trump-am-i-watching-things-on-television-that-are-different-from-whats-happening/

Martin Eden

(14,930 posts)
15. HUGE REC for this post!!!
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 11:12 AM
Saturday

THIS is the kind of reporting the national news networks would be doing if they actually practiced responsible journalism and upheld their duty as the Fourth Estate.

Grins

(8,925 posts)
14. And there it is..."Anthony Salisbury, a deputy to...STEPHEN MILLER, sent the texts..."
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 10:56 AM
Saturday

The Reich-wing anthropomorphic shaved testicle himself.

Not a hard guess. When it comes to cruelty and deceit, what name immediately comes to mind? Second only to you-know-who...?

yellow dahlia

(3,306 posts)
16. It is good that the judge in OR put the kibosh on the grifter sending in troops (specifically National Guard).
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 09:54 PM
Saturday
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