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no_hypocrisy

(53,282 posts)
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 05:05 AM Friday

Trump is the "Front Man". Stephen Miller and Russell Vought are running

the country.

It started with Elon Musk. He's gone. Now it's the Miller and Vought Show.

Trump doesn't have the attention span, the imagination, and the cognitive skills to make all the changes we're seeing.

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tanyev

(47,961 posts)
8. To be fair, he also cares about his ballroom. And his new patio.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 08:35 AM
Friday

And his fancy new plane. Oh, and covering every inch of the White House in gold.

But, no, he does not really care about running the country.

MadameButterfly

(3,617 posts)
2. Trump has always just been the front man
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 07:11 AM
Friday

for businesses where people with actual skills did all the work. Trump doesn't know how to build a building. His role was to buy stuff at too high a price to make a profit, figure out ways to cheat on taxes and stiff workers, and pick out the upholstry for furniture and where to put the gold leaf.

Mary Trump was assigned to write about him when she was younger. She told him, "I don't know what you do."

COL Mustard

(7,626 posts)
3. DOTUS
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 07:11 AM
Friday

Isn’t smart enough to arrange all of this chaos. He’s evil enough, but not smart enough. He’s like the anti-Stewart Smalley and gosh darn it, people just don’t like him.

4. I believe the data indicate that this is true
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 07:27 AM
Friday

Vought is a fanatic, White Xtian Nationalist whose wet dream is to impose his mental illness on all of America. Miller is an insecure sadist who lives to see other people suffer. Neither should have another peaceful day in their lives.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,236 posts)
5. I have called him the "Sock Puppet/Monkey" from day one...
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 07:30 AM
Friday

... he is the entertainment, distraction and focus of ire, while Miller and Vought and Theil and Eloon et all are doing the dirty work, and I do mean dirty. It is all about getting rid of accountability for tax cheats, shysters and crooked business people.

Timeflyer

(3,452 posts)
7. Project 2025 has been his instruction manual all along. Vought's little plan is working out bigly.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 07:57 AM
Friday

Scrivener7

(57,367 posts)
10. I think the people calling him "President Musk" had a lot to do with the breakup between Musk and Cankles.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 09:38 AM
Friday

We should start referring to "President Miller" and "President Vought."

Tommy Carcetti

(44,252 posts)
12. I think it's a little more complex.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 09:49 AM
Friday

Trump is the front man, but willingly so. In other words, he's not a clueless puppet.

He loves being in charge, the adulation, the power, and the prestige. He likes ordering around big things, trying to persecute his enemies, threatening war, peacocking in front of his military, etc.

He does not like the nitty-gritty of the job, though. He does not have the attention or the intelligence for the fine details of his plans. That stuff he likes to delegate to others. Elon at first, and now Miller and Vought.

But he's not being manipulated. He's egocentric, lazy and evil, but he willingly lets the shadowy, smarter but evil folks do his grunt work.

Don't let him off the hook. The buck has always stopped at him alone.

returnee

(684 posts)
14. MAGA wants to completely hobble representative govt...
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 04:16 PM
Friday

….in the US. This is also what Putin wants. I believe Putin is running TSF in collaboration with white christian nationalists.

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