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choie

(6,189 posts)
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 06:39 PM Thursday

Jamie Raskin's response to the propaganda on federal agency websites

Yes, indeed..the Hatch Act

"I have been contacted by numerous constituents outraged by the fact that the Trump Administration is now sending out blatantly partisan messages, both on official Websites and through emails from federal agencies. These official agency messages blame ‘Senate Democrats’ and the ‘Radical Left’ for the government shutdown. Taxpayer-funded service agencies like the Department of Housing and Urban Development and the Small Business Administration are now being turned into MAGA propaganda organs.

"This looks like a naked violation of the Hatch Act, which forbids partisan activity in the federal workplace. If any agency head under any previous Administration ever used official letterhead to promote their political views, they would have been instantly fired, if not prosecuted. There is a reason for this. Taxpayers cannot be forced to be a captive audience for propaganda against the Administration’s opponents every time they inquire about their benefits and rights. Nor may an Administration grant itself a campaign contribution of free nationwide political ads by hijacking agency service messages. Surely the Trump Administration would be firing any Executive Branch employee today who set up an official Website message blaming Trump and Republicans for shutting down the government.

"One of the main distinctions between our country and Putin’s Russia, Xi’s China or Kim Jong-un’s North Korea is that government services and communications channels may not be perverted into instruments of partisan propaganda. If Trump and Stephen Miller get away with this, there is no limit to the kinds of partisan polemics that can be passed off as ‘government speech.’

"I have also received reports that the U.S. Department of Education—after their employees have left neutral and nonpartisan ‘out-of-office’ messages for correspondence during the shutdown—has now replaced these out-of-office messages without the employees’ consent with a completely political diatribe purportedly authored by that employee: ‘Thank you for contacting me. On September 19, 2025, the House of Representatives passed H.R. 5371, a clean continuing resolution. Unfortunately, Democrat Senators are blocking passage of H.R. 5371 in the Senate which has led to a lapse in appropriations. Due to the lapse in appropriations, I am currently in furlough status.’” This is a form of identity theft. It fraudulently depicts federal workers as personally disseminating a political message that they have never approved, do not want to be associated with and may be illegal.

"President Trump is free to spout any partisan nonsense he wants from his giant bully pulpit. But he may not coerce federal employees into joining his choir. I am calling on every agency and Department head implicated in these forms of Orwellian miscommunication to remove them immediately. This is an intolerable abuse of power.”


https://raskin.house.gov/2025/10/raskin-statement-on-trump-administration-s-politicization-of-federal-civil-service-possible-violations-of-the-hatch-act

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Jamie Raskin's response to the propaganda on federal agency websites (Original Post) choie Thursday OP
Kick SheltieLover Thursday #1
And nothing will come of this Diraven Thursday #2
+1 dalton99a Thursday #3
Not sure Hatch Act has ever been enforced. It's essentially toothless. Silent Type Thursday #8
No time like the present. choie Thursday #17
Remember Al Gore Diraven Friday #26
They'll care if Dems do it maxsolomon Friday #33
What we need is an unpretentious pterodactyl to scoop trump GreenWave Friday #29
I sure as hell hope they plan on suing the administration. choie Thursday #13
I received this email from the VA LogDog75 Thursday #4
You should forward that to Raskin dweller Thursday #6
Your last paragraph is correct. Boomerproud Thursday #19
Laws don't apply to trmp. spanone Thursday #5
Nice Sentiment. Just Get the Epstein Files Released (and Unredacted) for Now MrWowWow Thursday #7
But it was someone in the VA that sent out that message LogDog75 Thursday #9
I don't care if it doesn't apply to the president. choie Thursday #18
Raskin is right. Now what ancianita Thursday #10
It's a blatant violation. Put it on the list for 2029. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #11
Yep. That's about the best we can do. paleotn Thursday #12
Remember, the PedoPres brakester Friday #30
And any person with two or more neurons to rub together know damned well... the nelm Thursday #14
I wonder if the victims could sue for misrepresentation. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #15
drumpf and his people don't GAF JoseBalow Thursday #16
Thank you for posting this!! Sparkly Thursday #20
I'm sure AG Blondie will get right on it. surfered Thursday #21
Looks like a naked violation? Gimpyknee Thursday #22
Thank you, Jamie Raskin! yellow dahlia Thursday #23
In his first administration. . . Jimvanhise Friday #24
My very first day in a Federal job, I was personally instructed in the Hatch Act by the manager of the facility. Midnight Writer Friday #25
And nothing will be done about it because the party in power doesn't give a flying fuck how many laws this SamKnause Friday #27
Hatch Act gfarber Friday #28
Good one, brakester Friday #31
Example here malaise Friday #32

Diraven

(1,638 posts)
2. And nothing will come of this
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 06:44 PM
Thursday

The DOJ enforces the Hatch Act and they don't work for the American people anymore. They work for Trump.

Diraven

(1,638 posts)
26. Remember Al Gore
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 12:36 PM
Friday

When it was a huge scandal that he made fundraising calls from his VP office?

Yeah it's never been enforced but people have had to publicly apologize for possibly breaking it before. No one even cares now.

GreenWave

(11,752 posts)
29. What we need is an unpretentious pterodactyl to scoop trump
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 02:37 PM
Friday

and let its hungry eggs hatch around him.

choie

(6,189 posts)
13. I sure as hell hope they plan on suing the administration.
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 07:37 PM
Thursday

They gotta get in the game. I know it's only the 2nd day, but it's time for some pizzaz! Rallies, send out AOC, etc.

LogDog75

(896 posts)
4. I received this email from the VA
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 06:57 PM
Thursday

They blame the Democrats for the government shutdown. Here's what they said:

As you may be aware, funding for some government agencies, including portions of the Department of Veterans Affairs, expired at midnight this morning.

President Trump opposes a lapse in appropriations, and on September 19, the House of Representatives passed, with the Trump Administration’s support, a clean continuing resolution to fund the government through November 21. Unfortunately, Democrats are blocking this Continuing Resolution in the U.S. Senate due to unrelated policy demands.

During the current lapse in funding, the vast majority of VA benefits and services will continue uninterrupted, but the government shutdown is not without consequences to VA. Here is what you need to know:
The following critical Veterans care and assistance programs will be impacted by the government shutdown:


VA will not provide Veteran career counseling or transition assistance program activities.
The GI Bill Hotline will be closed.
VA regional benefits offices will be closed.
VA will cease public affairs and outreach to Veterans.
VA will not permanently place headstones or maintain the grounds at VA national cemeteries.
VA will not process applications for pre-need burials.
VA will not print new presidential memorial certificates.

Thankfully, the government shutdown will not impact the following VA services:


Veteran health care is not impacted. VA Medical Centers, Outpatient Clinics, and Vet Centers will be open.
VA benefits will continue to be processed and delivered, including compensation, pension, education, and housing benefits.
Burials will continue at VA national cemeteries. Applications for headstones, markers, and burial benefits processing will continue.
The Board of Veterans’ Appeals will continue decisions on Veterans’ cases.
VA Contact Centers (1-800-MyVA411) and the Veterans Crisis Line (Dial 988, Press 1) are open 24/7.


This has to be a blatant violation of the Hatch Act. I'd want Congress or the Justice Department to investigate this but since both are controlled by republicans and the Orange Turd that won't happen.




Boomerproud

(8,982 posts)
19. Your last paragraph is correct.
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 08:20 PM
Thursday

Raskin can scream at the top of his lungs but nothing will stop this.

MrWowWow

(1,461 posts)
7. Nice Sentiment. Just Get the Epstein Files Released (and Unredacted) for Now
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 07:05 PM
Thursday

Have never seen any President successfully prosecuted for violating the Hatch Act.
_______________________
No sitting U.S. president has ever been successfully prosecuted for violating the Hatch Act.

Here’s why:

The Hatch Act of 1939 restricts partisan political activity by federal employees, but the President and Vice President are explicitly exempt from its provisions (5 U.S.C. § 7322 and § 7324).

The Act applies to most executive branch employees, with the U.S. Office of Special Counsel (OSC) as the enforcing authority. Penalties can include removal, demotion, or fines — but not criminal prosecution.

Because the law does not cover the President, there has never been a prosecution of a sitting president for a Hatch Act violation.


However, administrations have often been accused of Hatch Act violations. For example:

Trump officials (Kellyanne Conway, Mike Pompeo, others) were cited by the OSC for repeated violations.

Obama officials (Kathleen Sebelius, Julián Castro) also received Hatch Act warnings.


But again — these do not apply to the president himself.

LogDog75

(896 posts)
9. But it was someone in the VA that sent out that message
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 07:09 PM
Thursday

I doubt either the Orange Turd or Beardo would have the know-how on how to do that so one of them probably directed someone in the VA to do it. Since that person is neither the president or vice-president the Hatch Act would apply.

choie

(6,189 posts)
18. I don't care if it doesn't apply to the president.
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 08:13 PM
Thursday

Get his corrupt minions at each agency.

ancianita

(42,131 posts)
10. Raskin is right. Now what
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 07:16 PM
Thursday

are he and Democrats going to do about executive branch websites fomenting political rhetoric.

Americans should not pay taxes to be used for fomenting political opposition on government websites.

paleotn

(20,978 posts)
12. Yep. That's about the best we can do.
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 07:33 PM
Thursday

Elections have consequences and magas should be reminded of that every time they whine. Which is endlessly.

brakester

(479 posts)
30. Remember, the PedoPres
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 03:41 PM
Friday

only won over Kamala by about a point and a half and he didn't even make 50%!!!

So VOTE, VOTE, VOTE!

And encourage everyone you know to vote every election, but especially in 2026 and 2028!

the nelm

(175 posts)
14. And any person with two or more neurons to rub together know damned well...
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 07:38 PM
Thursday

that if the shoe were on the other foot, the Republicans would be having the greatest hissy fit of all time...

Sparkly

(24,760 posts)
20. Thank you for posting this!!
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 08:26 PM
Thursday

How many Democrats can make how much noise, how clearly through how many distinct means, before people stop blaming them and start realizing this is a ground battle?! Just ranting in general - I'm sick of reading that the Democratic Party is a failure, has no voice or vision, lacks leadership or strong individuals, failed to nominate excellent candidates, etc... Wrong, wrong, wrong....

The question isn't what's wrong with the Democratic Party, it's what's wrong with the Republican Party - and how cravenly they've been able to dupe a large swath of voters into believing increasingly outlandish lies. (Visit the fox nooz site comments board some time for a whiff of evidence. It is astonishing.)

We all have work to do, person to person.

Jimvanhise

(524 posts)
24. In his first administration. . .
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 12:06 PM
Friday

Trump dismissed claims that his administration was violating the Hatch Act by proclaiming, "I am the Hatch Act."

Midnight Writer

(24,841 posts)
25. My very first day in a Federal job, I was personally instructed in the Hatch Act by the manager of the facility.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 12:35 PM
Friday

He told me very clearly that there was to be no political activity on the job and that I would be immediately fired if I violated that.

The good old days when a government job meant serving all the people with honor and respect and integrity.

SamKnause

(14,486 posts)
27. And nothing will be done about it because the party in power doesn't give a flying fuck how many laws this
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 12:47 PM
Friday

administration breaks:


The Supreme Court doesn't give a flying fuck.

The corporations that back this administration don't give a flying fuck.

The citizens that bank roll this administration don't give a flying fuck.

The Christian Nationalists don't give a flying fuck.

The White Supremacists don't give a flying fuck.

Only 1 party believes in the law.

Only 1 party thinks they are the law.

gfarber

(115 posts)
28. Hatch Act
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 02:06 PM
Friday


A shutdown was brewing, quite grim,
Yet Trump found a way to still spin—
On tax-funded sites,
He pushed partisan fights,
Turning gov’t into ads just for him.

When Trump used the gov to mislead,
He dressed up his spin as pure creed.
With each doctored note,
He stuffed down our throat
State-run lies that reeked more of Xi's breed.

The Hatch Act was tossed in the flame,
As Trump played his partisan game.
With gov staff abused,
And the law disused,
He turned public trust into shame.

He twisted the law with a grin,
Let propaganda seep in.
On your dime and mine,
He crossed every line—
If that’s not a crime, it’s a sin.

They hijacked the names of the staff,
For partisan lies on their behalf.
With the Hatch Act defied,
And their voices misapplied,
It’s fraud — not just politics’ gaffe.

Their names were just stolen for show,
While Trump ran his gov like you know.
With each twisted claim,
He defiled their name—
That’s not lawless? Then what is, bro?
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