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Conjuay

(2,747 posts)
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 09:56 AM Oct 2

I thought this was a very valid point:

Found on Bluesky:

"So if we can just cancel funding / projects that have already been Congressionally approved and appropriated,
What's the point of negotiating?

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I thought this was a very valid point: (Original Post) Conjuay Oct 2 OP
Many years ago my then rep told me that he was in favor of a bill to give rurallib Oct 2 #1
Mighty good point. calimary Oct 2 #5
well.... poozwah Oct 2 #6
Exactly Rebl2 Oct 2 #13
LOL even more stupid popsdenver Oct 2 #19
For that matter - what is the shutdown all about ? dweller Oct 2 #2
The shut down is a way to fire more federal workers. And terrorize everyone. Irish_Dem Oct 2 #10
But they do that anyway dweller Oct 2 #12
This was a new opportunity to commit crimes. Irish_Dem Oct 2 #14
And we may ask "what's the point of Congress and Article I?" Redleg Oct 2 #3
Blue states must withdraw their federal government funding, now! Clouds Passing Oct 2 #4
But... how? caraher Oct 2 #8
It doesn't. Payroll taxes are FoxNewsSucks Oct 2 #17
IDK but they need to figure out a way yesterday. Clouds Passing Oct 2 #9
Yes popsdenver Oct 2 #21
They don't need Congress angrychair Oct 2 #7
Good point RogueRocket Oct 2 #11
As opposed to what? Cirsium Oct 2 #20
Short of some miracle popsdenver Oct 2 #23
Why would you negotiate with a CROOK? BurnDoubt Oct 2 #15
Very true 👍 TommieMommy Oct 2 #16
That's autocracy Joinfortmill Oct 2 #18
never negotiate with terrorists North Coast Lawyer Oct 2 #22

rurallib

(64,262 posts)
1. Many years ago my then rep told me that he was in favor of a bill to give
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 10:08 AM
Oct 2

the president a line item veto.
"Well, then what is congress going to do? If the president can just write his own budget, what are you guys going to do?"

Congress's one big power is the purse. If the president can just spend or not spend money as he wants, what is their function?

poozwah

(373 posts)
6. well....
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 10:40 AM
Oct 2

the republicans view congress as a legitimizing entity used to rubber stamp trump’s authoritarianism. it has become little more than a corrupt money gathering institution which is subservient to the wealthy and only pretends to pay attention to us during election cycles. citizen’s united has destroyed our nation.

Rebl2

(17,089 posts)
13. Exactly
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 11:01 AM
Oct 2

Republicans are letting him do this, not lifting a finger to stop him. So why bother having congress and senate.

popsdenver

(644 posts)
19. LOL even more stupid
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:35 PM
Oct 2

are the Republican U.S. House Members, the U.S. Republican Senators, and the Republican U.S. Supreme Court Justices.......

They are all just as massively delusional as Trump Inc., to think that there is a Judicial Branch, and a Legislative Branch of government in
a Dictatorship/Tyranny.............

dweller

(27,323 posts)
2. For that matter - what is the shutdown all about ?
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 10:37 AM
Oct 2

The repugs could just agree to funding Medicaid and ACA funding and pass the bill. … and Pisswig could let Vought eliminate it from funding .
Is it all kabuki ?

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dweller

(27,323 posts)
12. But they do that anyway
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 11:00 AM
Oct 2

From the beginning with doge … and the repugs have always acted as a terrorist organization
Only purpose of the shutdown is to point a finger at Dems while repugs screw everyone


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Redleg

(6,657 posts)
3. And we may ask "what's the point of Congress and Article I?"
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 10:38 AM
Oct 2

Trump does not negotiate in good faith.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,355 posts)
17. It doesn't. Payroll taxes are
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:17 PM
Oct 2

sent directly to the IRS by employers. I would assume other federal taxes collected by retailers and other businesses are also sent directly to the federal government.

popsdenver

(644 posts)
21. Yes
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:39 PM
Oct 2

without all the blue states money, Trump Inc. would have no money to send to the 30+? Red states that receive far more money, than they ever send in to the Feds........

RogueRocket

(20 posts)
11. Good point
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 10:54 AM
Oct 2

This is a great point and I agree but do we just keep the government closed until Trump agrees to conditions that stop him from doing that?

popsdenver

(644 posts)
23. Short of some miracle
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:44 PM
Oct 2

it seems we are destined to either Martial Law, or another Civil War..............Either way is fine with these quasi RepubliCONS.........

BurnDoubt

(1,117 posts)
15. Why would you negotiate with a CROOK?
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 11:25 AM
Oct 2

Trump has lied and cheated every day of his life.
McConnell STOLE two Supreme Court appointments and destroyed our Government.
They are entirely untrustworthy.

North Coast Lawyer

(214 posts)
22. never negotiate with terrorists
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:41 PM
Oct 2

Not negotiating with terrorists has been America's standard procedure. No reason to deviate from this maxim when dealing with an internal threat.

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