The Government Has Been Shut Down for Months - Today is the day we stop pretending that it's not.

[Celerity]

https://prospect.org/politics/2025-09-30-government-has-been-shut-down-for-months/



Talks at the White House on Monday aimed at preventing a government shutdown left both sides far apart on a deal. Earlier in the day, reports emerged that Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) would consider a ten-day extension of government funding if Trump agreed to negotiate on enhanced Affordable Care Act subsidies that expire at the end of the year. Reaction to this was swift. “You don’t pick a fight and then run away,” said Emma Lydon, managing director of P Street, the government relations arm of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee. Within a couple of hours, Schumer told reporters that he would not back a short-term funding agreement under any circumstances. But one bigger problem with the conversation around government funding, with less than 24 hours to the deadline, is the nature of the fight being picked.

The negotiations and debates are operating under the premise that appropriations to federal agencies are flowing today and will stop flowing tomorrow, and that this is something political leaders want to avoid. It’s hard to uncover any evidence that this is truly the case. The Supreme Court’s latest ruling definitively allows the Trump administration to cancel whatever funding they disfavor within 45 days of the end of the appropriation, without any approval from Congress. The administration now has power, formalized by the Court in a sleight-of-hand move by claiming nobody has standing to sue, to cut whatever they want out of the budget, at a time when they are pressuring Congress to send them a budget.

That Supreme Court ruling involved $4 billion in foreign aid funding that the administration semi-formally tried to rescind; it doesn’t include the $410 billion that the White House has simply withheld from programs across the country. That represents close to half of all outlays in the fiscal year 2025 nondefense discretionary budget, which have simply vanished, perhaps permanently after the last day of the fiscal year, which is today. The Office of Management and Budget, as Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-CT) has explained, has offered no explanation of how money is being spent or where withheld spending is going.



About 12 percent of the federal workforce has been terminated. Last week, we heard threats from OMB director Russ Vought that a shutdown will really allow the Office of Management and Budget to fire workers. A shutdown provides no actual legal authority to fire federal employees, but then again there was no legal authority to rescind or withhold appropriated spending without congressional approval, or put workers on extended administrative leave, as they did with the unauthorized buyout back in January. As Daniel Schuman points out, Vought presented guidance to agencies in February that they should prepare for mass layoffs by today, September 30. Any allegedly shutdown-induced “mass layoff” should be seen as the continuation of an existing plan that has been public for seven months.

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[bucolic_frolic]

1. What time does the invasion begin?

Need to catch a few winks beforehand.

[Historic NY]

5. They aren't getting paid

[dalton99a]

2. Kick

[WestMichRad]

3. Highly recommended article.

Funding to federal agencies didn’t stop flowing today. It’s been blocked for months by the administration’s unilateral impoundments.

“There is no point… to negotiate or vote for a spending bill, short term or otherwise, unless it resolves or leads to the resolution (of) the issues of impoundments and restricting further withholding of funds, reinforces GAO authority to investigate and litigate impoundments, places political shackles on (Russell) Vought…, and requires regular, accurate reporting of agency spending.” -Daniel Shuman on substack, in an article explaining how the government shutdown has been Vought’s plan all along.

[ananda]

7. The idea of no government seems to coincide with a lot of Magat thinking as well.

A couple of months ago I had a meeting with someone
I really like, only to find out he's gone full Magat,
having bought the whole Fox news schtick, saying
Biden had cognitive impairment, etc.

When challenged on any of this, he immediately
reverted to huge fear of and dislike for government.

I told him he should move to Idaho, and he said it
was too cold.

When he said it again, I told him to move to Kerrville
because they didn't like or want government either.

The upshot is that I get the feeling that Magats voted
for the white man because he's white, and anything
he says or does -- including shutting down government--
will be tolerated because he's white ....

[Ilsa]

9. I got my SS deposit today. But anyone

applying for services may be SOL as long as we're shutdown.

[ananda]

11. I know. The whole thing is so creepy and disturbing.

They really think they want to destroy government...
presumably to privatize everything for the billionaires
and have no social safety net for anyone except
themselves.

But we really do need government. I think I even
convinced the person I was meeting with just by
suggesting he move to places more friendly to his
thinking.

When he heard the suggestion of Kerrville, I think
he got it.

[RockCreek]

4. KnR

[Drum]

6. Kick & Recommend!

[leftstreet]

8. DURec

[Mr.WeRP]

10. Been saying this for a while

Defund the whole damn thing since the it’s been weaponized against the people and Trump is spending the $$ however he wants.

You want to fund it? Get ridge of the babyman tyrant. That’s what the negotiation should be.