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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(130,394 posts)
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 02:48 PM Sep 25

Elon Musk sparks backlash after issuing 48-hour assignment to employees: 'This is due by noon on Thursday'

Elon Musk once again wants workers to justify their worth.

The billionaire CEO of xAI sent an email to the artificial intelligence company's workers giving them 48 hours to submit a one-page description of what they did in the past month and what they plan to do in the next month, CNN reported.

"This is due by noon on Thursday," instructed the email, which was sent Tuesday.

Requiring workers to quickly justify their roles has been a recurring theme of Musk's management style. During his short-lived foray into government, his Department of Government Efficiency made similar demands of federal employees in multiple agencies, NPR reported.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/elon-musk-sparks-backlash-issuing-235000699.html

This is the asshole who wants a trillion-dollar compensation. Justify that Ketamine creep.

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Elon Musk sparks backlash after issuing 48-hour assignment to employees: 'This is due by noon on Thursday' (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 25 OP
Heeeeeee's baaaaack Blues Heron Sep 25 #1
He never fucking left Aviation Pro Sep 25 #36
Damn. He had, mercifully, slipped to the very back of my mind for a blessed niyad Sep 25 #2
Is he going to read their essays and issue a letter grade? maxsolomon Sep 25 #3
It's a prelude to job cuts, I think. Cash flow problems? Investors getting skittish? Bernardo de La Paz Sep 25 #33
I dunno, Musk is a dork and a jerk but, Disaffected Sep 25 #4
His people should already know this leftstreet Sep 25 #6
He needs to fire both (IMO). Disaffected Sep 25 #8
If the CEO doesn't know that this kind of action really isn't in his scope of work, he shouldn't be a CEO. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 25 #7
Huh? nt Disaffected Sep 25 #9
CEOs cannot and should not be involved at this level newdeal2 Sep 25 #10
I think the point is at levels that Elon Musk is operating mr715 Sep 25 #11
CEOs generally should not be involved in the minutiae of every employee like this. It's called micromanaging, and it's a WhiskeyGrinder Sep 25 #12
I don't think it is actually "micromanaging" Disaffected Sep 25 #17
It's the very definition of micromanaging, just like the shitty putz attempted with doge before he ran off Blues Heron Sep 25 #19
If Musk had issued a directive Disaffected Sep 25 #42
Asking each person for exactly (micro) what they did (managing) is not like giving a raise. Come on man Blues Heron Sep 25 #44
How about this..... usedtobedemgurl Sep 25 #27
I think management is supposed to do that. This is just bullshit. 58Sunliner Sep 25 #13
Self report is not a good way to measure performance and value to company. Irish_Dem Sep 25 #15
Musk's business survive him, Johonny Sep 25 #24
Yes it is amazing how such a badly run company survives. Irish_Dem Sep 25 #25
For SpaceX it is absolutely true Johonny Sep 25 #29
Yes has to be the case. Irish_Dem Sep 25 #31
Sure they should, Disaffected Sep 25 #46
If you are hired by a company and have been working past any probation period. Autumn Sep 25 #18
Compared to what I have to do to keep my job, this is minor pcdb Sep 25 #20
Isn't That What Managers Are For? ProfessorGAC Sep 25 #22
Of course it is what managers are for. Disaffected Sep 25 #43
Well, Duh! ProfessorGAC Sep 25 #45
Heh, for a "Professor", Disaffected Sep 25 #47
Convenient ProfessorGAC Sep 25 #48
OK, one last post, I promise: Disaffected Sep 25 #49
An employer should know that info without resorting to employees for instruction Torchlight Sep 25 #26
It's a time-wasting exercise leading to big personnel errors. It's like the old "lines of code" metric. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 25 #35
We do this in my team but not in an adversarial way drray23 Sep 25 #40
Elon, Take this Job and Shove It Coldwater Sep 25 #5
And I challenge him to justify his damned existence in even ONE sentence! hlthe2b Sep 25 #14
Sounds like Musk is out of ideas. Kid Berwyn Sep 25 #16
How about they justify before hiring in the first place? fujiyamasan Sep 25 #21
Many years ago when I lived in Rhode Island, we had a wonderful broadcaster on WPRO radio Totally Tunsie Sep 25 #23
You can always tell when he wants to do layoffs mdbl Sep 25 #28
should that include him as well. AllaN01Bear Sep 25 #30
Um...questioning my life choices because I'm working for a megalomaniac? progressoid Sep 25 #32
Sorry for the poor bastards that have to serve him, unconditionally. twodogsbarking Sep 25 #34
This tells me that Eloon the crazy South African Aviation Pro Sep 25 #37
A sure-fire way to lose your best employees. CaptainTruth Sep 25 #38
Thanks for posting, I saw a refence to a different email last friday to VA workers blue_jay Sep 25 #39
what has this piece of s*** done in the last month other than destroying our government and cheerleading Nazism LS0999 Sep 25 #41

maxsolomon

(37,724 posts)
3. Is he going to read their essays and issue a letter grade?
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:02 PM
Sep 25

Zorg would just fire 1 million, he wouldn't pussyfoot around with little games like this.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,068 posts)
33. It's a prelude to job cuts, I think. Cash flow problems? Investors getting skittish?
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 05:03 PM
Sep 25

He'll run it through his AI and fire the lowest 10 % of scores, regardless of actual merit.

He fired a lot of X engineers, but the platform has not collapsed. Some new features, I hear, but really, not much advancement. Seems stupid to apply the same management technique to a highly competitive industry that depends on advancement.

When there is so much cash sloshing around AI companies, it really makes me wonder why he is mucking around like this. Oh, his name is Muck.

Disaffected

(5,969 posts)
4. I dunno, Musk is a dork and a jerk but,
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:03 PM
Sep 25

if someone couldn't provide that sort of information to justify his/her employment, I'm not sure I would want him/her as an employee.

leftstreet

(37,861 posts)
6. His people should already know this
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:07 PM
Sep 25

If he has employees who aren't necessary, he needs to fire his mid level management team

Just one more narcissist looking for the day's supply

WhiskeyGrinder

(25,927 posts)
7. If the CEO doesn't know that this kind of action really isn't in his scope of work, he shouldn't be a CEO.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:09 PM
Sep 25

mr715

(2,199 posts)
11. I think the point is at levels that Elon Musk is operating
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:15 PM
Sep 25

the CEO is so removed from individual personnel that is more than a little unusual for him to be handing out homework assignments.

He should trust his operations officials, who in turn should work with human resources, etc. - not top level executive work.

WhiskeyGrinder

(25,927 posts)
12. CEOs generally should not be involved in the minutiae of every employee like this. It's called micromanaging, and it's a
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:16 PM
Sep 25

waste of time and money.

Disaffected

(5,969 posts)
17. I don't think it is actually "micromanaging"
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:36 PM
Sep 25

because the entire work force (or at least most of it) is apparently the subject of the directive and for that to happen the CEO would have to be involved.

I would also expect the CEO would not be directly involved in the evaluation of the replies (at least for the non-management employees).

Again, if an employee cannot justify his/her employment, it needs to be evaluated - either the employee is reassigned to a more productive role or is let go. It may also be an exercise in self-help/awareness for some employees - some may realize they are not performing a particularly valuable role at the company and therefore choose to look elsewhere for something more suitable. Or, maybe the company would do that for them...

Blues Heron

(7,956 posts)
19. It's the very definition of micromanaging, just like the shitty putz attempted with doge before he ran off
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:57 PM
Sep 25

Disaffected

(5,969 posts)
42. If Musk had issued a directive
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 06:19 PM
Sep 25

stating that each employee must be given a 10% raise instead of each employee must describe what their duties and accomplishments are, would that also be micromanaging?

CEO directives that affect most or all of the company are NOT the very definition of micromanaging (unless you are using the cynics' dictionary).

Blues Heron

(7,956 posts)
44. Asking each person for exactly (micro) what they did (managing) is not like giving a raise. Come on man
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 06:27 PM
Sep 25

usedtobedemgurl

(1,872 posts)
27. How about this.....
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 04:46 PM
Sep 25

Do I did the same thing to government employees. At the time, they had so little time to put together all the requested information, and it honestly came across as sadistic on his part. It was so far out of his jurisdiction, I believe even Kash told his people not to respond. I believe there may have been lawsuits over it. This is a repeat of an illegal pattern he did before and you are backing him up?

Let's say I agree he should be handling low level things (with his stock and brand being what it is, you would think he would have more important things to do), you totally agree he will get the best essays from employees by setting a date of two days to turn it in? Maybe giving them until Monday may be better for the morale of employees.

These folks have seen the shut show he did with the government. They saw him fire essential employees but this is all good? If I was a shareholder and stock went down because of the way the company is being managed, I think I would sue. Who wants to work for a person who Fires essential nuclear employees on the same whim he see.s tone trying with his own company? This guy is really unstable.

58Sunliner

(6,176 posts)
13. I think management is supposed to do that. This is just bullshit.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:21 PM
Sep 25

Suddenly you are supposed to justify your paycheck to the ceo when it's a mid-level or lower manager who directs your work?

Irish_Dem

(77,149 posts)
15. Self report is not a good way to measure performance and value to company.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:26 PM
Sep 25

Gold bricks will just lie and fabricate things.

The direct managers are the ones who should be evaluating
their employees' performance.

Johonny

(24,963 posts)
24. Musk's business survive him,
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 04:35 PM
Sep 25

He doesn't inspire, innovate, or motivate his workers. Most are passionate about their company and its mission, but everyone tries to avoid Musk and his abusive nature.

Irish_Dem

(77,149 posts)
25. Yes it is amazing how such a badly run company survives.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 04:43 PM
Sep 25

There must be a second in command who actually runs the company.
And everyone puts Musk on ignore.

Irish_Dem

(77,149 posts)
31. Yes has to be the case.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 04:51 PM
Sep 25

Musk is mentally ill, quite unbalanced.
And a serious drug abuser.

Someone else must be providing day to say management.

Disaffected

(5,969 posts)
46. Sure they should,
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 06:36 PM
Sep 25

should being the key word here. There is often a big difference between "should" and "are", especially in a large organization. A directive from the CEO serves to enforce the matter.

And sure, gold bricks will lie and fabricate but it is also the job of management to filter that out (if they hadn't done so already).

If Musk also personally evaluated all the responses or even a significant portion of them, that would be micromanagement but giving a broad company-wide directive is not.

Autumn

(48,524 posts)
18. If you are hired by a company and have been working past any probation period.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:47 PM
Sep 25

Management or HR has had no problems with you or your work. Why the fuck should you have to justify your job? Fuck that authoritarian bullshit. Fuck eloony muskrat

pcdb

(69 posts)
20. Compared to what I have to do to keep my job, this is minor
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:59 PM
Sep 25

Not sure why anyone is making a big deal out of this. Companies everywhere have been "flattening" their org structures to get rid of middle-management and give CEOs better visibility and control over operations. I have to provide reports like this on a weekly basis. It's a waste of time, and annoying but that's how it's done nowadays.

ProfessorGAC

(75,041 posts)
22. Isn't That What Managers Are For?
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 04:08 PM
Sep 25

I had to report to the execs as to what WE were working on & the financials showing impact YTD.
My 7 subordinates didn't have to do that.
We were worth 10x what the department cost in savings or added margins every year, so it was a low stress report.
But, only I had to do that, and it was 4x per year.
I also didn't provide details of what was planned the next 30 or 90 days.
Those plans were dependent on what the data showed, so couldn't be accurately predicted. I wasn't going to guess.
And that was how we operated for 19 years over a period when the company grew by over 4x & net income by 7x.
Tells me such requests from upper management are unnecessary.

Disaffected

(5,969 posts)
43. Of course it is what managers are for.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 06:23 PM
Sep 25

A CEO is also a manager and has the authority to undertake such action on a company wide basis rather than leaving it up to middle management or lower discretion.

ProfessorGAC

(75,041 posts)
45. Well, Duh!
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 06:34 PM
Sep 25

I never said a CEO can't.
I'm questioning the wisdom of doing so.
Tesla is not a model of operational efficiency, so presuming Musk is a manager whose methods should be followed is folly.

Disaffected

(5,969 posts)
47. Heh, for a "Professor",
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 06:41 PM
Sep 25

you do not state your case with a whole lot of clarity IMO.

What BTW are you a professor of anyhow?

In any case, this whole thread has become a pointless argument (as happens all too often here) so enuf said from this end.

ProfessorGAC

(75,041 posts)
48. Convenient
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 06:51 PM
Sep 25

You ask a question and run away.
My PhD is in chemistry, but I also have an MBA and worked for large multinationals.
I will bet $100 I know far more about business & management than you do.
Now, we're both done.

Disaffected

(5,969 posts)
49. OK, one last post, I promise:
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 07:03 PM
Sep 25

You know zilch about my background but you are sufficiently conceited to think you know "far more about business & management" than I do.

And I ask again, what exactly are you a "Professor" of or it is nothing more than a self-appointed affectation??

BTW, I did not ask you what your CV is (nor do I care much). Also BTW, you might want to look up the definition of "argument from authority".

Torchlight

(6,022 posts)
26. An employer should know that info without resorting to employees for instruction
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 04:45 PM
Sep 25

If an employer didn't know what what my job was, I'm not sure I'd want him/her as an employer.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,068 posts)
35. It's a time-wasting exercise leading to big personnel errors. It's like the old "lines of code" metric.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 05:08 PM
Sep 25

It is not uncommon for the replacement of a 1,000 lines of code with 50 to have greater value than adding 1,000 lines of code to a heap. I can easily quickly add a thousand lines of code if it doesn't have to to much or work in every case. Someone may have been tasked with spending a month reading and thinking about a particularly knotty problem needed to be solved for the next product version. How do you "justify" that existence?

Like someone wrote earlier in the thread, the front line managers know who is productive or not.

drray23

(8,473 posts)
40. We do this in my team but not in an adversarial way
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 05:39 PM
Sep 25

Like Musk seems to be doing.
We have a SharePoint where we all write short updates every two weeks of what we were working on and what's the plan for the next two.

Its invaluable to us because often we find ways to interact or help another team member by finding synergies.

Its also very useful for both me and my direct reports when we write end of year appraisals. This insures your higher up does not omit or fail to acknowledge your work.

hlthe2b

(111,975 posts)
14. And I challenge him to justify his damned existence in even ONE sentence!
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:22 PM
Sep 25

(and infinitely long dribble is not accepted)...

Kid Berwyn

(22,167 posts)
16. Sounds like Musk is out of ideas.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:27 PM
Sep 25

Gotta shake down the team for inspiration is not a good look, Elon.

fujiyamasan

(828 posts)
21. How about they justify before hiring in the first place?
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 04:07 PM
Sep 25

Or having managers that know what their employees are working on? That’s the whole point of accountability and leadership — to give direction and guidance.

Instead this clown just issues these edicts. It’s all for his ego. Pathetic.

If you have a good work culture, there’s no reason for employees to “justify” their employment. Their performance and that of the organization would show itself.

Totally Tunsie

(11,391 posts)
23. Many years ago when I lived in Rhode Island, we had a wonderful broadcaster on WPRO radio
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 04:29 PM
Sep 25

who took great delight in announcing school and business closings for our numerous snowstorms. Walter "SALTY" Brine was a long-time gem of the airways. "NO SCHOOL FOSTER/GLOCESTER" was the opening call that myriads of school children waited to hear at 7 a.m., hoping for the chance their district would be closed also.

I recall one particular storm when Salty read a company's announcement: "Only essential employees need report". The following day it was reported on the News that for the first time in the company's history, ALL employees had made it in to work. 100% attendance during a raging storm. No one was willing to admit they were not "essential"!

Elon woulda' been proud!


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Aviation Pro

(14,986 posts)
37. This tells me that Eloon the crazy South African
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 05:17 PM
Sep 25

Has no productivity system at any of his fucked up businesses. Even a medium-sized tech company uses Jira or Azure to track employee productivity.

CaptainTruth

(7,972 posts)
38. A sure-fire way to lose your best employees.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 05:28 PM
Sep 25

The best performers get tired of crap like this & there are competitors who will hire them.

It's happened at other tech companies.

blue_jay

(143 posts)
39. Thanks for posting, I saw a refence to a different email last friday to VA workers
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 05:29 PM
Sep 25

but don't know if it was old thing recirculating, it also had a short deadline with consequences. Seemed to be current but don't want to spread disinfo, just caught my attention. Pretty sure it was from OPM ostensibly.

LS0999

(266 posts)
41. what has this piece of s*** done in the last month other than destroying our government and cheerleading Nazism
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 06:15 PM
Sep 25

If there was any justice in this world every single penny he has would be confiscated and he would be locked up for life.

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