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irisblue

(36,418 posts)
Sun Sep 21, 2025, 01:00 PM Sep 21

From Nazi Germany to Trump's America: why strongmen rely on women at home

Sourcehttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2025/sep/21/fascism-women-homemaker-trad-wife


subtitle-Fascist regimes pushed narratives of domestic bliss, yet relied on women’s unpaid labor. In the US today, ‘womanosphere’ influencers promote the same fantasies



snip-"Similarly, the Trump administration touts pronatalist rewards, such as a $1,000 government-funded investment account for new babies, and has discussed others, including a “National Medal of Motherhood” for women with six children. While vice-president JD Vance cried: “I want more babies in the United States of America” at an anti-abortion rally in early 2025, Republicans in Congress plotted eliminating federal tax credits for daycare and other supports that enable women’s workforce participation – an effort to control women’s social roles.

The administration’s policies suggest its goal is not only population growth but specifically more white births. By rolling back reproductive rights more drastically than at any point in the last 50 years, the Trump administration has set the stage for worsening maternal mortality – especially for Black women, who die in childbirth at nearly three-and-a-half times the rate of white women. It has also demonstrated hostility to people of color, tearing immigrant families apart, curtailing immigration and ordering an end to birthright citizenship.

Fascist pronatalist policy depends on the veneer of white, Christian “family values” – a strategy that echoes Scholtz-Klink’s work as Nazi Germany’s proto-influencer, promoting a sweet, soft life of “Kinder, Küche, Kirche” (“children, kitchen, church”). When interviewed, Scholtz-Klink insisted to Koonz that she and her female colleagues had nothing to do with concentration camps, genocide or political doctrine – that they barely even knew about those things. Instead, Scholtz-Klink made domestic and reproductive duty feel prestigious, rather than peremptory, helping “the Nazi party make ordinary women feel valued in a way that other women in more liberal parties didn’t”, Koonz says.

snip-"As authoritarian regimes rise, they often rely on a women’s movement to keep society stable and operational on a household level, framing regressive policies in more approachable and alluring terms. This is especially true for fascist regimes, which rely on mass participation to advance their extreme nationalist agendas. Today, that role is being taken up by the digital “womanosphere”, also called the femosphere."



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From Nazi Germany to Trump's America: why strongmen rely on women at home (Original Post) irisblue Sep 21 OP
Somehow I don't see the majority of American women seeing the restriction of their options as a good idea dutch777 Sep 21 #1
Unfortunately, 44% of women voters identify as or lean Republican ThreeNoSeep Sep 21 #3
Shouldn't all of these conservative media women johnnyfins Sep 21 #2

dutch777

(4,750 posts)
1. Somehow I don't see the majority of American women seeing the restriction of their options as a good idea
Sun Sep 21, 2025, 01:22 PM
Sep 21

Sure, some who would always have fit the "trad wife" role due to upbringing and belief will be welcome examples for the RWers pushing this. And sure, if they were going to have kids anyway, why not take the paltry $ per head a government may offer as incentive. Just very doubtful that many will change their life's intentions or lifestyle choices based on the nothing burgers the proponents of the return to "traditional" womanhood are offering up as incentives. I suspect this is more of speaking in politically soothing tones to the male RW base to whom the notion of an independent and self directed woman is scary, threatening and confusing thought and saying "We understand you.".

johnnyfins

(3,162 posts)
2. Shouldn't all of these conservative media women
Sun Sep 21, 2025, 01:27 PM
Sep 21

Be taken off the air?

Megyn Kelly, Maria Bartiromo and all of the others at Fox? How come they are not setting the example? Why is Pirro allowed to be in her position? Shouldn't she be serving as a "Martha" somewhere?

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