****BREAKING****FCC Chairman Brendan Carr Says He Might Go After The View

[DemocratSinceBirth]

America had a nice run.

[wcmagumba]

1. Carr has very delicate Fe fes....

[Irish_Dem]

4. MAGA men are such delicate snowflakes.

And women are supposed to be too emotional for high level jobs.

[Rebl2]

51. Aren't they

Though🙄

[Irish_Dem]

53. Who knew all that testosterone gives them such delicate fee fees.

[Crunchy Frog]

47. He also appears to have nobody willing to stand up to him.

[Blues Heron]

2. They've tasted blood and they like it. Another spasm of lashing out like the Venezuelan motorboat murders

[LeftInTX]

3. OMG!! I say stand your ground. I bet ABC cancels it instead.

[JBTaurus83]

14. I agree

so far the media has given in to his every whim.

[leftstreet]

5. Good publicity for all these shows/entertainers n/t

[Wednesdays]

35. Lot o' good it does them if they're canceled.

[badhair77]

6. They said nothing about Kimmel today.

They must have been told not to speak because these are women who speak.

[orleans]

20. i was hoping they'd talk about kimmel first thing

and they said not a word

wonder if they regret that decision now since they are on the verge of being "investigated" anyway.

i probably won't be watching them anymore (ala disney, abc)

[badhair77]

25. I tuned in to hear what they had to say about Jimmy, too.

Disappointed so no need to sign up for that again. I love Joy and Whoopie but Sunni is starting to namedrop like Kathie Lee Gifford and the other two are now annoying. I’m getting tired of tv altogether.

[slightlv]

60. I live in Star Trek world...

I recently found a live tv on Prime, and there's a Star Trek channel... all Star Trek all the time. Suits me just fine, since THAT'S the kind of world I want to live in!

[Mosby]

22. Stewart is hosting the daily show tonight.

He usually hosts on Mondays.

[ReRe]

30. Rut Row

Jon on a Thursday night? Hmmm, When doe he come on, ET?

[dflprincess]

48. He comes on at 10 pm Central

So it's guess 11 pm Eastern. But, as they say, check local listings.

[ReRe]

52. Thanks a bunch!

You're a peach!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

7. Link to something other than ephemeral live tv?

So many say "IT'S ON NOW!!"

Do you have a link to "imprison, torture them"?

[xmas74]

11. I linked in my post

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220654669

[Bernardo de La Paz]

13. Thanks. Interesting, but has no goofy references to prison or torture. . . . nt

[Crunchy Frog]

50. Why does there need to be prison or torture?

Does repression of free speech only count if there's prison or torture?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

64. Of course not but the OP raised prison and torture in their first and second edits but not the third. . . . nt

[FloridaBlues]

8. Is there a link to these nasty comments? That's the most popular daytime show.

Dangerous path. I don’t have Disney/ or Disney plus but if I did it would be canceled today. Viewership who do need to cancel them.

[xmas74]

9. Here ya go

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220654669

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. Thank you.

[FloridaBlues]

32. Thanks for the link!

[no_hypocrisy]

10. He's making a list, and checking it twice.

Gonna find out who’s naughty and nice.

[LeftInTX]

15. So his rationale for going after Kimmel and the View are that they are "legally" bona fide news.

“When you look at these other TV shows, what’s interesting is the FCC does have a rule called the equal opportunity rule,” he said. “But there’s an exception to that rule called the bona fide news exception, which means if you are a bona fide news program, you don’t have to abide by the equal opportunity rule.

Carr continued, “And over the years, the FCC has developed a body of case law on that and has suggested that most of these late night shows, other than SNL, are bona fide news programs. And potentially I would assume you can make the argument that The View is a bona fide news show, but I’m not so sure about that, and I think it’s worthwhile to have the FCC look into whether The View and some of the programs that you have still qualify as bona fide news programs and therefore exempt from the equal opportunity regime that Congress has put in place.”

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/brendan-carr-suggests-fcc-investigate-the-view-1236375049/

Good grief. So ABC considered Jimmy Kimmel news? I guess Jimmy Fallon is next....
All these years and Johnny Carson was news? Dig him out of the grave!
So were the Smother's Brothers also news?

I guess Judge Judy is news?

[Lovie777]

16. That's a poor excuse for the FCC ......................

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. That candy ass should go on The View if he promises not to cancel them after they own him.

[LeftInTX]

19. So if these late night shows are now "news", that pretty much ends comedy late at night!

There goes a huge cash cow for the networks!

[Diraven]

54. Actually, according to CBS at least

They claim late night shows all massive money losers which is why they were so eager to cancel Colbert.

[Diraven]

56. But Fox News is just entertainment

That's what they argued in court to try to weasel out of getting sued for promoting stuff they knew were lies in their shows.

[Dr. T]

66. It's nice to hear radical right wing FCC Chairman Carr

admit, through ommision, that Fox News isn't news at all. I believe some of the J6 domestic terrorist used Fox brainwashing as an insanity defense.

[LeftInTX]

57. CBS primetime line up is awful.

[vanlassie]

21. Who was that guy... Oh right!

Rush Limpballs

He was just an entertainer.

[newdeal2]

24. I would love to see Trump show up in between those ladies

Is that what he is suggesting here?

[ancianita]

34. CARR GETS IT WRONG: "a body of case law HAS SUGGESTSED that late night shows are bona fide news shows" He equates .

"has suggested" with "settled law." He's making shit up. Carr is a subservient trumpian censor. Period.

Thank you, Google DeepMind AI..


Late-night comedy shows are not legally classified as news programs in the United States.
Legally, they fall into the "bona fide news" exemption, which has been historically interpreted to include late-night shows, allowing them to discuss current events and politics without being subject to the same regulations as traditional news broadcasts.

Key distinctions in the U.S.:
Exemption from equal opportunity rules: Under the "bona fide news" classification, late-night shows are exempt from the Federal Communications Commission's (FCC) equal opportunity rule, which requires broadcasters to grant equal airtime to political candidates.

Entertainment first, news second:
Hosts like John Oliver have stated that their shows are "comedy first, and it's comedy second," distinguishing their work from traditional journalism.

No journalistic standards:
Since they are not traditional journalism, late-night shows are not bound by the same journalistic conventions of balance and objectivity. This gives them the freedom to openly express opinions and mock public figures, which would be inappropriate for a standard news program.

Freedom of speech protections:
As entertainment and commentary, late-night material is protected by the First Amendment. The courts have affirmed that commentary and hyperbole are protected forms of speech, regardless of whether a program is labeled as "news" or "entertainment".
Varying interpretations: While the "bona fide news" classification has allowed shows like The Daily Show and Last Week Tonight to exist as commentary on current events, the legal interpretation is not without controversy. In recent years, some have questioned whether the FCC should re-evaluate this long-standing regulatory exemption.

https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Are+late+night+comedy+shows+legally+termed+news+programs%3F%3F&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Because "comedy news" is worded in the legal order -- comedy, then news -- that the FCC can't legally touch. ABC NEEDS LAWYERS WHO ACTUALLY KNOW THE LAW. (caps for EMphasis, not yelling)

[LeftInTX]

37. Thanks for this! I was too tired to look it up, but I assume he was BSing.

Never heard "late night TV" called "news" before today. (The exception was Nightline, which wasn't comedy)

There is one thing that differed "news" from "programming". News was considered the non-profit arm of the network, whereas programming carried the profits. I don't know if that was a network ethics or FCC thing.

[ancianita]

38. See how helpful DeepMind AI can be? Type your question with two question marks at the end.

Good answers come up in seconds. It even offers links for its answers.

Just credit it at the top so folks know how you got the info. There's no copyright that applies to AI.

[Cheezoholic]

59. These fuckers are handing us the midterms IF we have an election and IF it isn't fucked with

Those are big IF's at this point

[ancianita]

63. Yep. IF we spread the facts and the Democratic vision of equality under the law, and not fear. Then the GOTV will happen

and if we win in 2026 that will continue the momentum of the People into 2028.

[progressoid]

65. This has nothing to do with the law.

The people with power and money in Washington and are seeing how far they can push the people with power and money in the media.

[ancianita]

68. Of course not to them, no.

Well said and broadly true.

Beyond the battles between people with power and money (aren't those two things equivalent?) what I don't get is who ends up winning. The monopolizing of Nexstar, Sinclair and other local media affiliates seems like the beginning of a nationwide net of propaganda narratives.
Lawrence noted tonight that almost no corporations have ever stood up to trump; Lawrence rails against corporate media lapdogs of trump in the WH press room. This kind control at scale is the silencing of all media except for trump's FCC approved media owners like Larry Ellison and Musk. And then he can write the terrorism narratives about everyone in the Democratic party and the "radical left." What I don't get is how that's profitable for them, since monopolies don't produce news, but narratives, but when he's gone, and the economy's frozen and the population is poorer, then what. How would that benefit Thiel/Ellison/Musk.

We'd better look into this monopolistic communications iron dome he's building.

[GreenWave]

18. That's right. Look at the view from the rooftop. Just bend over a bit....

And he just may go.

[MagickMuffin]

23. Once you've given your lunch money to a Bully, they WILL be back for more

Happens every time.

ABC won't be able to stop it, they capitulated to the Bully, now he'll continue to bully them and take their money.

[Eliot Rosewater]

26. Rachel and Lawrence next

[CTyankee]

27. I'm surprised Rachel is still there! You'd think they would have targeted her first...!

[ancianita]

39. They have lawyers with spines who know the law way better than Carr or trump. And trump knows it.

[Eliot Rosewater]

67. The law doesn't matter anymore surely we understand that

Everything will be appeal to the Supreme Court who will do whatever the piece of shit wants them to

[ancianita]

69. Yes, it does surely we understand that SCOTUS matters to SCOTUS.

Yes it will, and no they won't. They don't want any more work than they've already got. They won't go against First Amendment rulings.

[Eliot Rosewater]

70. Like they won't give Trump immunity or they won't overturn Roe versus Wade?

I want you to be right, but lots of people here insisted they would not overturn Roe insisted they would not give the piece of shit immunity.

They were wrong

[ancianita]

71. I hear you. It's a whole new bought court. Even so it still doesn't want to go full on kangaroo.

I don't want to be right. It's not about me. I only want what IS right.
And that's mostly what people here thought when they thought the SCOTUS would honor precedent.
Yes, they were wrong about the bought court, but they were all still right to want what IS right.

[Eliot Rosewater]

72. Yes we all want the court to do the right thing

But I’m certain they will not because they are afraid of what the piece of shit and MAGA will do to them.

There is no more Republican Party there is only the party of Trump and it is a fascist and violent group.

He is a piece of shit and so are all of them.

I didn’t mean you when I said I want you to be right I meant I want the theory that they would do the constitutional thing to be right, but I appreciate your input.

[doc03]

28. I am surprised he hasn't gone after Seth Myers.

I think he hits Trump harder than any the other late show hosts.

[BadgerMom]

62. Agreed. But Trump has asked for Fallon and Seth's heads as well.

Tick, tick, I’m sure.

[Grins]

29. See a pattern here....? NM

[twodogsbarking]

31. The View does show actual clips of Trump.

[Buddyzbuddy]

33. Epstein, Epstein, Epstein!

Keep the focus.

[Tadams01KC]

36. We need to look

Into his mortgage applications to see if he listed 2 primary residences

[MaineBlueBear]

40. Cancel culture again

[iemanja]

49. It's far worse than that

It's authoritarian action by the state.

[Ford_Prefect]

41. The fool is messing with primal forces of nature. Bad things happen to those who do.

[Wiz Imp]

42. The guy is a moron. He doesn't even understand his own rule.

First of all, he calls it the "equal opportunity rule". In reality it's called the "equal time rule" and it doesn't say what he apparently thinks it does. The equal-time rule (47 U.S. Code § 315 - Candidates for public office) specifies that American radio and television broadcast stations must provide equivalent access to competing political candidates. This means, for example, that if a station broadcasts a message by a candidate, it must offer the same amount of time on the same terms (in, say, prime time) to an opposing candidate.

The View has always had people of all political persuasions on, including Trump himself. Chris Christie and Arnold Schwarzenegger are both pretty frequent guests. But even that is irrelevant. The Equal Time Rule only applies to Candidates for Public office. They haven't had an active candidate for political office on the show since Kamala Harris last year (at least I can't find evidence of any active candidates appearing on the show). Most political people they have on the show are current or former officeholders, not candidates. And there is no equal time rule that applies to current and former officeholders - only candidates.

[flashman13]

43. I guess he just can't handle those uppity women. Get thee home to your kitchens.

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

44. So scary and sad

[Crunchy Frog]

45. I've been told by other posters on here that there's

nothing anyone can do to try to combat the termination of the 1st Amendment, by using the courts or anything.

Nice to see the country going down with barely a whimper.

In case DU gets shut down, been nice knowing you all.

[Grown2Hate]

46. What fucking shows are going to be left at this point? It's not like the audiences that liked these shows are going

to now tune into some Nazi shit-show that replaces them. Network TV will just go the way of the dodo.

This is, of course, in addition to the blatant ignoring of our Constitution. Fucking mother fuckers...

[walkingman]

55. Crap will be all that is left - reality tv, prosperity gospel, dancing with stars

hopefully SCOTUS will rule against Orange Jesus but I'm not holding my breath.

[LeftInTX]

58. That's basically all that is on prime time.

[EnergizedLib]

61. Someone take this Nazi bum to court