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mysteryowl

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Sat Sep 13, 2025, 10:31 AM Sep 13

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He's not going after only foreigners vapor2 Sep 13 #1
It that were the line in the sand, it would still be wrong. (nt) Heidi Sep 13 #9
Thousands of right-wingers loudly laughed, in writing louis-t Sep 13 #2
exactly! mysteryowl Sep 13 #4
Yes, and they wouldn't back off even after surveillance footage showed the guy breaking into a second-story window Walleye Sep 13 #6
+1 dalton99a Sep 13 #12
Charlie Kirk wanted Paul Pelosi's attacker bailed out EnergizedLib Sep 13 #21
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 13 #3
Looks like the culmination of all the right wing desires involves firing people off their jobs Walleye Sep 13 #5
Remember The Apprentice was about Trump firing people. ananda Sep 13 #20
I know I've been thinking of that. It's sick. I know what happens when people lose their jobs Walleye Sep 13 #22
As I said before, I see all this firing and targeting of people... ananda Sep 13 #24
First, they came for... kentuck Sep 13 #7
Reichstag fire #2. Ping Tung Sep 13 #8
Meanwhile here's the 'president' of the USA spanone Sep 13 #10
We are going to have to start writing and talking in code Buckeyeblue Sep 13 #11
Kick dalton99a Sep 13 #13
This site is listing people's posts. Blue Full Moon Sep 13 #14
These actions make a mockery of . . . peggysue2 Sep 13 #15
Being fired by your employer Greg_In_SF Sep 13 #17
Unfortunately this is not a free speech issue The Grand Illuminist Sep 13 #18
Private businesses can, in fact, fire employees for what's considered sensitivity infractions of speech peggysue2 Sep 13 #19
Democratic Party leadership has got to push back. Blue Full Moon Sep 13 #16
We are all Dixie Chicks now... JCMach1 Sep 13 #23

vapor2

(3,337 posts)
1. He's not going after only foreigners
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 10:33 AM
Sep 13

BASTARD

Heidi

(58,844 posts)
9. It that were the line in the sand, it would still be wrong. (nt)
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 10:57 AM
Sep 13

louis-t

(24,516 posts)
2. Thousands of right-wingers loudly laughed, in writing
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 10:34 AM
Sep 13

when Nancy Pelosi's husband was beaten by a maga crazy in his own home.

mysteryowl

(7,778 posts)
4. exactly!
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 10:36 AM
Sep 13

The article displays our situation of fascism.

Walleye

(43,023 posts)
6. Yes, and they wouldn't back off even after surveillance footage showed the guy breaking into a second-story window
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 10:51 AM
Sep 13

dalton99a

(90,966 posts)
12. +1
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 12:06 PM
Sep 13

EnergizedLib

(2,857 posts)
21. Charlie Kirk wanted Paul Pelosi's attacker bailed out
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 03:40 PM
Sep 13

Response to mysteryowl (Original post)

Walleye

(43,023 posts)
5. Looks like the culmination of all the right wing desires involves firing people off their jobs
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 10:50 AM
Sep 13

ananda

(33,824 posts)
20. Remember The Apprentice was about Trump firing people.
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 03:38 PM
Sep 13

He gets off on it, and so do his followers.

Walleye

(43,023 posts)
22. I know I've been thinking of that. It's sick. I know what happens when people lose their jobs
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 03:49 PM
Sep 13

ananda

(33,824 posts)
24. As I said before, I see all this firing and targeting of people...
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 04:15 PM
Sep 13

as a kind of bloodless Krystallnacht.

They can't be seen going after the general public
in a violent, bloody way since many of them are
white.

Notice how they use the terroristic and violent
tactices after the hated groups.

kentuck

(114,863 posts)
7. First, they came for...
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 10:52 AM
Sep 13

..everybody that did not agree with them.

Ping Tung

(3,947 posts)
8. Reichstag fire #2.
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 10:55 AM
Sep 13

spanone

(140,537 posts)
10. Meanwhile here's the 'president' of the USA
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 11:02 AM
Sep 13

Buckeyeblue

(6,074 posts)
11. We are going to have to start writing and talking in code
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 12:05 PM
Sep 13

James Baldwin has a great essay (If Black English Isn't a Language, Then Tell me what Is?) where he breaks down "slang" used by African Americans. Much of it was to be able to communicate in the face of oppression. I suspect other oppressed groups have also evolved such nuance into their shared language.

I live in a very conservative pocket of Michigan. I rarely even talk politics with people until I feel like I've completely vetted them. If people ask me my opinion I keep my answers vague and quickly change the subject.

dalton99a

(90,966 posts)
13. Kick
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 12:09 PM
Sep 13









Blue Full Moon

(2,972 posts)
14. This site is listing people's posts.
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 12:12 PM
Sep 13

Most of the posts are just Charlie Kirk's horrible comments. They are still adamant that leftist killed him. Start sending in Loomer and Fuentes posts against Kirk. Send in all MAGAs you know. It says it's not a doxxing site but that's exactly what it is.

peggysue2

(12,277 posts)
15. These actions make a mockery of . . .
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 12:15 PM
Sep 13

Free Speech.

Which is the point.

Greg_In_SF

(678 posts)
17. Being fired by your employer
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 12:22 PM
Sep 13

for saying things they disagree with is not a first amendment issue.

The Grand Illuminist

(1,938 posts)
18. Unfortunately this is not a free speech issue
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 01:47 PM
Sep 13

Because it was private business and not government. Unless the departments have union rep.

peggysue2

(12,277 posts)
19. Private businesses can, in fact, fire employees for what's considered sensitivity infractions of speech
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 03:35 PM
Sep 13

Had a friend recently fired because the manger didn't like the tone of her voice and content of her answer to a client. She was too blunt, the manager said. She had also just turned 50 and making a very nice salary as the company was trimming away what they delightfully referred to as 'dead wood.'

Yup, it happens. People are fired for a variety of reasons whether the offense is serious or not. Or just convenient.

However, I would still argue that these multiple firings over the same damn subject is part and parcel of shaping the MAGA narrative, a slow but inexorable turn away from free speech. Matthew Dowd, recently fired from MSNBC, said his dismissal was in reaction to the right-wing mob, grinned up by his comments repeated across multiple platforms. The network immediately terminated him.

Pete Hegseth has said he'll be reviewing comments made by military members and promised disciplinary action if the comments were/are unflattering to Charlie Kirk. Not sure how you sell that one since Kirk was never in anyone's chain of command.

Trump has announced foreign visas will be reviewed for Kirk criticism and/or making light of Kirk's death. If denigrating comments are reported, visas will be revoked.

It's this piling on that has such detrimental effects. You may not be able to snuff a candle out on a first swipe. But keep on keeping on and you'll get the darkness you wanted all along.

Ironically, MAGA in general and Kirk in particular have always made a point about revering 'free' speech.

This ain't it.





Blue Full Moon

(2,972 posts)
16. Democratic Party leadership has got to push back.
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 12:18 PM
Sep 13

The right wing nuts still believe that Kirk was killed by a leftist. They are chomping at the bit for a cultural war. Stating Kirk's comments is highly upsetting for them. I guess it's a mirror for them to see their own ugliness.

JCMach1

(29,034 posts)
23. We are all Dixie Chicks now...
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 04:08 PM
Sep 13
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