Everyone is Wrong About Mexican Coke

[sl8]

This seemed like a good time to repost this. Basically, there's no differences in the sugar present in the Coke some weeks after the soda is bottled, regardless of whether it was made with cane sugar or HFCS (any sucrose used becomes free fructose and glucose). There are some other differences in the ingredients (e.g., salt or sodium) other than the sugar used that might account for some taste differences.

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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4285619/

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Ventura et al.4 found no inconsistencies in HFCS-sweetened beverages, but did report discrepancies between types of sugars claimed on product labels and those detected in sucrose-sweetened beverages. However, their sucrose concern was almost certainly a failure to consider acid-catalyzed sucrose inversion to free fructose and glucose, a well-characterized phenomenon known to occur in the low-pH environment of most carbonated beverages (and a host of other acidic foods and beverages). Thus, concern about types of sugars in HFCS- and sucrose-sweetened beverages appears to be based on incomplete understanding of sugars chemistry in carbonated beverages.

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Everyone is Wrong About Mexican Coke ( Even ‪@johnnyharris )

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Dec 11 2024

A 2011 paper found that Mexican Coke – which is supposed to be sweetened with cane sugar – contained no cane sugar. Instead, the paper found plenty of glucose and fructose: the main ingredients in high fructose corn syrup. Could Coke be lying to us all? Or is there another, even stranger explanation?

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[4139]

1. I tried the Mexican Coke recently. The only difference is PRICE

[stopdiggin]

2. kind of amused at the groundswell of amateur chemists

produced by the internet and 'healthy eating' camps.

It's .. it's .. got chemicals ! Eek !

"Yes, Doris - and so is the water, and the glass you're drinking out of .. "

[JoseBalow]

6. Whether we know it or not, chemicals play an important and ever-increasing role in our daily lives...

(1:57)

[Johnny2X2X]

9. Coke also has Dihydrogen Oxide in it

And we all know how dangerous dihydrogen oxide is, kills 4000 Americans a year.

[Igel]

10. A Star Trek:TNG episode featured a "baryon sweep."

They had to remove "baryons" because they build up after warp travel.

I was in a room full of science nerds (a hefty percentage were physics undergrads and astrophysics grad students) and we just cracked up laughing.

I'm sure most viewed were, "OMG, baryons!"

Uh ... Baryons include neutrons and protons. We sort of need them. Get rid of them and you have a bunch of electrons.

[Autumn]

3. I buy Mexican Coke because it tates better. I think it's the glass bottle

[cadoman]

4. needs to be watched to the end

And I think the open question then is: if sucrose breaks down into sucrose/fructose over time, shouldn't the aspiration be for a fresh mix that hasn't degraded into sucrose/fructose?

[Igel]

12. Perhaps for flavor.

But the sucrose hits your stomach, with its acid, and it breaks down to fructose and glucose. Your cells can't break down sucrose otherwise. So unless that 55/45 (roughly) split of HFCS means that +5/-5 skew is crucial for health, uh, then they're ultimately the same.

How "fresh" the Coke has to be depends on the chemical kinetics of sucrose hydrolysis at the storage temperature and acidity levels. Acidity may be by specification, but temperature's gonna vary.

Sucrose is a disaccharide, the other two are monosaccharides. Starch is an oligosaccharide and breaks down (starting in your mouth) into glucose and maltose, then to just glucose. Because our cells like glucose. Fructose gets converted.

[usonian]

5. No powdered sugar in Coke?

Hey sl8, 16,666 posts. Must be your lucky day.

[WarGamer]

7. Was the story paid for by corn farmers?

[KentuckyWoman]

8. Cost.

They changed ingredients to lower costs. Makes it more affordable. More consumed. More obesity.

[cyclonefence]

11. No one is arguing that either form of Coke is good for you

Sugared Coke tastes a whole lot better to some of us. I don't know why anyone else cares.

[Totally Tunsie]

13. The term "Mexican Coke" must make Jr.'s heart go pitter-patter!

[Bluesaph]

14. I like the real sugar coke better myself.

Can we talk about relevant things now? This is just another distraction.

[Bluesaph]

15. We are gonna run out of corn

Due to the ICE raids on migrant workers who will harvest the corn? Who will plant the corn for next year?

We will run out of corn and the shit will hit the fan!

I suspect that this is what it’s all about. Trump is probably trying to get a jump ahead of the huge problems he’s creating!

[Polybius]

16. I used to work in a restaurant with a bunch of Mexican coworkers

Let's just say that they would disagree. They paid for Mexican Coke's from a deli, bringing a bunch to work daily. Meanwhile, we had Coke in the restaurant that they could have drank for free.

[DiverDave]

17. Im a Pepsi man

Coke tastes like medicine to me.
Mexican Pepsi is much better then the corn sugar Pepsi.
The cane sugar is okay, but if I can get it, Mexican Pepsi is the bomb.