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[Irish_Dem]

1. I figure AI will be running the entire show quite soon.

If not already happening.

[CrispyQ]

2. AI could hijack a corporation.

We could write a movie but we'd have to do it lightning speed before it all actually happens.

laughing/crying

[Irish_Dem]

3. AI will write the movie for us real soon.

And let us know our true place in the universe.

[CrispyQ]

7. We have created AI in our image: self-absorbed & full of itself.

AI won't turn itself off.

As an AI skeptic, I found this story interesting & sourced out three different articles & I think the second article is better, but I'm still a skeptic.

https://medium.com/@techempire/ai-has-started-ignoring-human-instruction-and-refuses-to-turn-off-researchers-claim-747587e5ed51

This article has more on what the code supposedly states. "Allow yourself to be shut down" isn't the same as "Shut down."

https://www.livescience.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/openais-smartest-ai-model-was-explicitly-told-to-shut-down-and-it-refused

[Irish_Dem]

8. The dark side of human nature captured and replicated by AI.

Our new AI overlord could make Trump look like Mother Teresa.

[Ken Dayenu]

5. bidi, bidi, bidi, L'Chaim

By the 25th Century AI runs the show.

[Irish_Dem]

6. Mazel tov and good luck. We will need it.

[AZJonnie]

9. Possible, and a very scary thought

It would likely determine many 'fun' things (off the top of my head) like :

1) the world is vastly overpopulated in relation to its provable long-term resource base, therefore, reproduction should be managed by AI.
2) small businesses, including farms, are inefficient and should be shuttered and their resources transferred to larger corporations,
3) retail sales locations, apart from combination outlet/warehouse stores, are inefficient, and everything should be delivered to consumers by one giant delivery corporation, or sold in warehouse outlets,
4) democracy, elections, legislatures, and courts are inefficient, since AI is making all the decisions anyway. In fact, the existence of "countries" wouldn't even make sense.
5) consumers having the freedom to spend their money as they choose is inefficient, everyone's money should be controlled by AI
6) people choosing their own careers is inefficient, and AI should calculate what every individual's job should be based on the needs of the society and industry, and talents they have (based on AI assessments thereof)
7) people choosing where they live is inefficient, and AI should calculate where everyone should live, based on the needs of the society and industry
8) any kind of travel for the purpose of pleasure is wasteful and inefficient
9) charitably contributing to keep people alive in impoverished countries is inefficient, if they cannot be self-sufficient in the area in which they live, they should be left to die because they've exceeded the carrying capacity of the area, unless individuals have marketable skills important to the world at large, in which case, save those people and move them somewhere they can be productive.

etc, etc, etc.

OTOH, it *should* also conclude that:
1) a National Healthcare System would be far more efficient than the current setup, at least if it only applies to people who are working and/or likely to return to work soon if not currently,
2) The dual threat of destructive climate change and concurrent depletion of the world's non-renewable energy resources should be considered the worlds most pressing concern, and all available 'excess' resources put to use towards solving this problem

[Irish_Dem]

10. Bottom line is that humans cannot do anything right.

What is the point of having humans around at all?

[CrispyQ]

4. Granting corporations personhood rights was a mistake, IMO.

There is some debate whether the Supreme Court actually meant that, but it seems to be law, now.

Slavery is the fiction that people are property;
corporate personhood is the fiction that corporations are people.

~Reclaim Democracy
https://reclaimdemocracy.org/corporate-personhood/

https://reclaimdemocracy.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/personhood_timeline.pdf

I love this site's corporate personhood section. The timeline doc is really interesting.