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***Breaking*** Trump Diagnosed With Chronic Venous Insufficiency (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Thursday OP
Or at least that's the diagnosis they all agreed on. Who knows what he really has. Vinca Thursday #1
Ayy - if the 'news' from the repubes, smell before you swallow BoRaGard Thursday #19
My dad had that late in life, and it was hell. ananda Thursday #26
Sorry about his suffering cally Thursday #29
It can be. ananda Thursday #48
Thanks for answering. cally Thursday #70
Oh goody. I'm into Trump having pain. CanonRay Thursday #63
Hell on earth for him works for me.. ananda Thursday #68
ChangeTheSubjectFromEpstein Syndrome perhaps? ecstatic Thursday #38
Maybe we can change the subject again if we all start talking about how really old people get it and even Vinca Thursday #44
I remember in the last months of Watergate, Nixon developed a similar condition-- viva la Thursday #45
But we bdamomma Thursday #64
NBD elleng Thursday #2
Correct, except for the "chronic" part GusBob Thursday #12
My money is on congestive heart failure. MontanaMama Thursday #3
He has the best healthcare possible Buckeyeblue Thursday #28
Yup. He's a pathologica liar. GoCubsGo Thursday #34
As someone who has CHF I would concur Metaphorical Thursday #43
This bdamomma Thursday #65
Very common in elderly people who are overweight. MineralMan Thursday #4
I would be interested to see his GFR. DemocratSinceBirth Thursday #15
Hardly surprising Red Mountain Thursday #5
If you tune bdamomma Thursday #66
Um, most older people have that. yardwork Thursday #6
I had it until I lost 90lbs. I wouldn't be too quick to think your heart and kidneys are fine if you have it. CentralMass Thursday #11
I've had it since my early 40s, when I was thin. yardwork Thursday #35
Maybe he should have another cheezberder. C_U_L8R Thursday #7
With a pound of bacon The Madcap Thursday #57
This message was self-deleted by its author Chasstev365 Thursday #8
It's good to know they're concerned about his ankles and not his mental acuity. Give me a freaking break. dem4decades Thursday #9
Nothing short or a heart attack or a stroke is gonna put him out of commission. Katinfl Thursday #10
The Tarot Readers on YouTube say 5 months Captain Zero Thursday #20
Really? Never heard of that group but sounds good to me! Katinfl Thursday #23
great news but I've been burned before. In fairness, burned by YT astrologers. ecstatic Thursday #36
Nice Christmas present crazylikafox Thursday #55
Fingers crossed!! 🤞🤞 InAbLuEsTaTe Thursday #54
In addition to his Chronic Moral Insufficiency. FSogol Thursday #13
Oh Please! Hope of Deliverance from this evil, ignorant fuck! Chasstev365 Thursday #14
It's not a virus so he can't blame it on people who want to hug and kiss him Boomerproud Thursday #16
He probably backhanded somebody n/t. SonOfNebanaube Thursday #25
Surprised they even used that term. While common, it still tarnishes trump's tough man's persona. Silent Type Thursday #17
does CVI have any association with dementia? eom GusBob Thursday #18
Not really. Arterial disease might. DemocratSinceBirth Thursday #22
I'm not a doctor, nor do I play one on television, but...... Brother Buzz Thursday #21
"Therefore, don't be mean libs and pick on him for his pedophilia thingy." - G.O.P. BoRaGard Thursday #24
I was diagnosed with it a few years ago. rzemanfl Thursday #27
Donald don't listen to him Bluestocking Thursday #60
CNN Link underpants Thursday #30
Don't tease. no_hypocrisy Thursday #31
Die, you fucking pedophile, die Aviation Pro Thursday #32
Any bets on if he might resign? Polybius Thursday #33
How soon can he die from it... Rver Thursday #37
I have always thought there is a reason he sits at his desk CareyOn Thursday #39
They spelled it wrong, it's Abolishinist Thursday #40
Will he die from it, most people want to know? Dan Thursday #41
He was also diagnosed with chronic venal oversufficiency. n/t valleyrogue Thursday #42
C'mon Grim Reaper, FINISH THE JOB for fuck's sake Blue Owl Thursday #46
Now that it can no longer be denied, they went fishing for the right ailment . . . hatrack Thursday #47
And bdamomma Thursday #49
Look what I found malaise Thursday #51
Very good bdamomma Thursday #61
Be nice if he could really suffer for a while and then die. mountain grammy Thursday #50
That wouldn't explain the bruised hands. RandySF Thursday #52
I'm not bdamomma Thursday #69
My thoughts drift to... k55f5r Thursday #53
Thoughts and prayers superpatriotman Thursday #56
It's a Long Shot.. DET Thursday #58
I and many others have it but nolabear Thursday #59
My never fail prediction..... multigraincracker Thursday #62
at first, I read that as penis insuffficiency mnmoderatedem Thursday #67

BoRaGard

(6,410 posts)
19. Ayy - if the 'news' from the repubes, smell before you swallow
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:21 PM
Thursday

or save yourself the bother, and just assume that its another lie on top of a lie based on a lie -- the usual GOP propaganda screw job.

ananda

(32,605 posts)
26. My dad had that late in life, and it was hell.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:40 PM
Thursday

Finally, he got a home heathcare worker to come out
and treat the ulcer in one of his legs but it didn't
look to me that it helped all that much.

The main issue with it was pain.

cally

(21,771 posts)
29. Sorry about his suffering
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:49 PM
Thursday

Was this a common symptom for this condition? Others (without direct knowledge like your family) are suggesting less painful symptoms.

ananda

(32,605 posts)
48. It can be.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 05:34 PM
Thursday

The area wasn't getting enough blood supply to heal the ulcer.

They tried some sort of procedure to widen the vein, but it
didn't work.

He was about 90 when this started.

cally

(21,771 posts)
70. Thanks for answering.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 07:25 PM
Thursday

Again, it is horrible to watch a parent suffer late in life. Sorry you had to deal with that.

CanonRay

(15,437 posts)
63. Oh goody. I'm into Trump having pain.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 06:12 PM
Thursday

Last edited Thu Jul 17, 2025, 09:35 PM - Edit history (1)

Lots of it. Forever.

Vinca

(52,405 posts)
44. Maybe we can change the subject again if we all start talking about how really old people get it and even
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 05:05 PM
Thursday

Biden didn't have it. LOL.

viva la

(4,190 posts)
45. I remember in the last months of Watergate, Nixon developed a similar condition--
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 05:22 PM
Thursday

deep vein thrombosis. He really did have it, but he'd also been neglecting his health, and there was some indication that he was doing this to get sympathy or have an excuse to quit.

Maybe Trump will soon be claiming health issues as an excuse?

That mark on his hand is not from shaking hands. It sure looks like he had an IV in there.

elleng

(140,188 posts)
2. NBD
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:09 PM
Thursday

'Chronic venous insufficiency (CVI) can cause a range of symptoms, including leg pain, swelling, and skin changes. These symptoms often worsen when standing or sitting for long periods and improve when legs are elevated. Other common signs include varicose veins, skin discoloration, and ulcers, particularly around the ankles.'

GusBob

(7,929 posts)
12. Correct, except for the "chronic" part
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:16 PM
Thursday

"Acute" would mean sudden onset, no?

How long has he had it and if so how long have they covered up for it?

Buckeyeblue

(5,965 posts)
28. He has the best healthcare possible
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:48 PM
Thursday

He could live for many years congestive heart failure.

GoCubsGo

(34,083 posts)
34. Yup. He's a pathologica liar.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:07 PM
Thursday

I have no doubt they're covering up something that's way worse than what they're claiming.

Show us your medical records, motherfucker. The real ones, not the fake ones you strong-armed your doctors into writing, like you did with Dr. Boerstein.

Metaphorical

(2,474 posts)
43. As someone who has CHF I would concur
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:53 PM
Thursday

There's little indication that he's had a heart attack (yet) but he's had Covid which can significantly weaken the heart, he's likely no longer taking the Ozempic (and is chunking up again), he has the urinary issues that usually indicate a steady stream of Lasix pills, and his age and diet are working against him. Most heart attacks anymore are survivable, IF you get prompt treatment, but he's a prime candidate at this point for either a major cardiac infarction or a stroke.

bdamomma

(68,863 posts)
65. This
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 06:21 PM
Thursday
IF you get prompt treatment, but he's a prime candidate at this point for either a major cardiac infarction or a stroke.

I vote CVA/Stroke!

MineralMan

(149,500 posts)
4. Very common in elderly people who are overweight.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:10 PM
Thursday

Swollen ankles and feet. But we've all seen that already.

Probably connected to some sort of renal disease, too.

However, people live with that for years quite often.

bdamomma

(68,863 posts)
66. If you tune
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 06:29 PM
Thursday

in to Dr. Mary Trump, he has many mental issues. Not FIT TO BE IN OUR WH!!!

yardwork

(67,260 posts)
6. Um, most older people have that.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:12 PM
Thursday

I've had that for decades. I get slight swelling in my ankles and rubbing my calves can hurt. I'm supposed to wear compression socks but I don't. My heart and kidneys are fine.

That ain't what Trump has. Or rather, maybe he's got that but he's got a LOT more than that going on!

CentralMass

(16,319 posts)
11. I had it until I lost 90lbs. I wouldn't be too quick to think your heart and kidneys are fine if you have it.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:16 PM
Thursday

yardwork

(67,260 posts)
35. I've had it since my early 40s, when I was thin.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:25 PM
Thursday

I should lose some weight but it's quite minor in my case.

The Madcap

(1,320 posts)
57. With a pound of bacon
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 05:58 PM
Thursday

10 slices of velveeta, five patties, and a tub of mayonnaise....

For breakfast, lunch, and dinner, oh, and ten potatoes worth of fries washed down with a large diet coke.

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

dem4decades

(12,983 posts)
9. It's good to know they're concerned about his ankles and not his mental acuity. Give me a freaking break.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:15 PM
Thursday

The press is so complicit in Trump's decline.

Captain Zero

(8,145 posts)
20. The Tarot Readers on YouTube say 5 months
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:21 PM
Thursday

They won't say what or why, but they agree he has 5 months left in office.

Works for me.

ecstatic

(34,860 posts)
36. great news but I've been burned before. In fairness, burned by YT astrologers.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:25 PM
Thursday

I was so convinced that covid was going to take him out.

Let's see how the tarot folks do.

Boomerproud

(8,865 posts)
16. It's not a virus so he can't blame it on people who want to hug and kiss him
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:18 PM
Thursday

Like he did with covid. Still blaming the bandaged hand on "handshakes". Uh huh.

Silent Type

(10,517 posts)
17. Surprised they even used that term. While common, it still tarnishes trump's tough man's persona.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:19 PM
Thursday

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,051 posts)
22. Not really. Arterial disease might.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:26 PM
Thursday

If the blood flow to your extremities is compromised it's not unlikely the blood floe to your head is compromised.

Brother Buzz

(38,992 posts)
21. I'm not a doctor, nor do I play one on television, but......
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:26 PM
Thursday

But the marmalade shartcannon won't have this if he'd parked his golf cart years ago walked his eighteen holes like the pros are required to do.

BoRaGard

(6,410 posts)
24. "Therefore, don't be mean libs and pick on him for his pedophilia thingy." - G.O.P.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:27 PM
Thursday

"Just like you libs to pile on with attacks when a man is sick and needs your sympathy. Please respect the man's history of sexual assault, pedophilia, income tax evasion, casino hustling, draft dodging, business cheating, adultery, and continually BEARING FALSE WITNESS. Just forget about all that. Show some courtesy, you pointy-headed, do-gooder libs, and forget all that shit. Instead, focus on how nice the White House concrete garden/parking lot is now, or something else equally uplifting." - G.O.P.

rzemanfl

(30,705 posts)
27. I was diagnosed with it a few years ago.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:47 PM
Thursday

Horse Chestnut extract really helped. So does exercise. i wear compression socks on long drives and airplanes.

Donald, if you are reading this, I hate your guts and would like to piss on your grave, so consider the source.

Bluestocking

(178 posts)
60. Donald don't listen to him
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 06:08 PM
Thursday

You should instead take daily intravenous bleach, daily dose of vermectin and consume at least one Big Mac everyday. And stop taking those awful meds your doctors give you. Add some hemlock to your burger in place of the lettuce.

hatrack

(63,028 posts)
47. Now that it can no longer be denied, they went fishing for the right ailment . . .
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 05:32 PM
Thursday

Something with semi-matching symptoms that can be portrayed as "common" or "benign".

Whatever.

malaise

(286,815 posts)
51. Look what I found
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 05:37 PM
Thursday

Swelling and bruising in the legs and ankles can be a potential aftereffect of COVID-19, though it's not always a direct result. It's crucial to consult with a healthcare professional for proper diagnosis and treatment, as this could also be related to other underlying conditions

bdamomma

(68,863 posts)
61. Very good
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 06:10 PM
Thursday

malaise, he had it pretty bad too. He couldn't even breathe when he ripped off his mask. He went onto the veranda at the WH his last term.

mountain grammy

(28,018 posts)
50. Be nice if he could really suffer for a while and then die.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 05:35 PM
Thursday

but he can die quickly too. I REALLY DON'T CARE DO YOU?

bdamomma

(68,863 posts)
69. I'm not
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 07:10 PM
Thursday

a health professional, but could be from IV insertion. Too bad he has the very best healthcare when he's taking away from so many others who need it.

I hope whatever he has, he will suffer from it. Really.

k55f5r

(482 posts)
53. My thoughts drift to...
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 05:46 PM
Thursday

Complications of Late/Tertiary Syphilis:
Cardiovascular Syphilis: This can lead to aortic aneurysms and aortic valve disease.
Neurosyphilis: This can affect the brain and spinal cord, potentially causing meningitis, stroke, paralysis, vision or hearing loss, and cognitive decline.
Gummatous Syphilis: This involves the formation of gummas, which are destructive, localized lesions that can affect various organs.

DET

(2,117 posts)
58. It's a Long Shot..
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 06:01 PM
Thursday

…but my husbands first sign of stage 4 prostate cancer was grossly distended lower legs. He went to the doctor and unfortunately instead of looking for an underlying cause for the swelling they had him buy a cumbersome machine that rhythmically compressed his legs. Didn’t work. The underlying cancer was not discovered until he had a routine PSA test at his annual physical.

Whatever Trump has, I don’t believe that it’s as simple and benign as chronic venous insufficiency. It may start there, but I doubt that it ends there.

nolabear

(43,792 posts)
59. I and many others have it but
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 06:05 PM
Thursday

he should have been diagnosed long before swelling got that bad. And I expect he was, if he’s been getting physicals at all. They released it now because it’s pretty common and it’s a great pretense of honesty.

The hand bruise, now, that has nothing to do with CVI.

mnmoderatedem

(3,883 posts)
67. at first, I read that as penis insuffficiency
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 06:43 PM
Thursday

which is probably true as well. But that's Melania's problem to deal with

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