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On the absurdity of "We are not a democracy, we are a constitutional Republic" (Original Post) orangecrush 9 hrs ago OP
Amen brother. Joinfortmill 9 hrs ago #1
What is the difference? Srkdqltr 9 hrs ago #2
When a lot of people say "democracy" they used to mean "direct democracy." Igel 2 hrs ago #22
But if you ask the people who are saying this. I wonder if they know. Question to ask is what is the difference? Srkdqltr 7 min ago #23
I don't have a dog! MaineBlueBear 8 hrs ago #3
That just makes it Mossfern 8 hrs ago #6
I like it, I like it nt duhneece 7 hrs ago #8
For more than fifty years I have been saying we are a military and an economy and no longer a society. twodogsbarking 8 hrs ago #4
People confuse "how" and "what" mwooldri 8 hrs ago #5
I've heard this from county commissioners, county attorney and Republicans duhneece 7 hrs ago #7
This guy sticks a pin in that bullshit orangecrush 7 hrs ago #10
Now if I can quit being tongue-tied when I hear it next time duhneece 4 hrs ago #15
Glad to help! orangecrush 4 hrs ago #17
It's just a phrase they picked up because vanlassie 3 hrs ago #19
That is like saying that SCantiGOP 7 hrs ago #9
"America isn't a democracy" orangecrush 7 hrs ago #11
They say that because JustAnotherGen 7 hrs ago #12
For years I have been saying Zackzzzz 6 hrs ago #13
The United States Senate and the Electoral College are constitutional compromises against democracy. Marcuse 6 hrs ago #14
Abolish the Electoral College ZDU 4 hrs ago #16
This is not a Tamale... this is Mexican food!!!!!!!! WarGamer 4 hrs ago #18
I learned a new term that I will add to my vocabulary: SalviaBlue 3 hrs ago #20
I learned a new term that I will add to my vocabulary: SalviaBlue 3 hrs ago #21
The people who claim that we're a "constitutional republic" don't know the first thing about the constitution. Initech 1 min ago #24

Igel

(36,949 posts)
22. When a lot of people say "democracy" they used to mean "direct democracy."
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 02:50 PM
2 hrs ago

Or "everybody's equally represented, however you slice the demographics."

Neither is true.

But a constitutional republic is a type of democracy. You just have to figure out what people mean when they speak, and that can be a challenge.

(I've also heard people say that just because you have elections, it's not a democracy--you have to have the right 'values'. That's also just as wrong as the "we don't have democracy" types. They typically mean a "liberal democracy" or a "progressive democracy".)

Srkdqltr

(8,643 posts)
23. But if you ask the people who are saying this. I wonder if they know. Question to ask is what is the difference?
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 05:40 PM
7 min ago

I would bet most have no answer.


twodogsbarking

(14,371 posts)
4. For more than fifty years I have been saying we are a military and an economy and no longer a society.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 09:14 AM
8 hrs ago

Got me in trouble many times in HS for saying it. At home too. Never learned to stop saying it. Stubborn.

mwooldri

(10,662 posts)
5. People confuse "how" and "what"
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 09:28 AM
8 hrs ago

Yes the USA is a constitutional republic. It chooses its leaders in this republic via a form of representative democracy.

The UK is a constitutional monarchy. It for the most part chooses its leaders in that country via a form of representative democracy. Most part, because some leaders are chosen by appointment (I'm talking about the House of Lords, which is not democratically elected at all).

I don't hear people saying the UK isn't a democracy. On paper, the US is more democratic than the UK.

duhneece

(4,381 posts)
7. I've heard this from county commissioners, county attorney and Republicans
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 09:49 AM
7 hrs ago

….so many times I can’t count.
“This semantic sleight of hand…” Great phrase to begin my response.

duhneece

(4,381 posts)
15. Now if I can quit being tongue-tied when I hear it next time
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 12:50 PM
4 hrs ago

I plan to hear this multiple times.

vanlassie

(6,034 posts)
19. It's just a phrase they picked up because
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 01:53 PM
3 hrs ago

they think it makes them sound smart. It’s gibberish, and they might as well be wearing a dunce cap.

SCantiGOP

(14,536 posts)
9. That is like saying that
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 10:18 AM
7 hrs ago

The large, woody plant in my front yard is not a tree, it’s an oak.
The argument is popular because one aspect of a democracy is that citizens vote for their representatives, while categorizing it as a Constitutional Republicans means you can restrict voting (see Ancient Greece and Rome, the US before the post-Civil War era, etc.)

JustAnotherGen

(35,635 posts)
12. They say that because
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 10:31 AM
7 hrs ago

They are freaking idiots and associated a party name with a form of government. I hate them.

Marcuse

(8,531 posts)
14. The United States Senate and the Electoral College are constitutional compromises against democracy.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 10:50 AM
6 hrs ago

ZDU

(569 posts)
16. Abolish the Electoral College
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 01:28 PM
4 hrs ago

Antiquated yet extremely effective to keep those ruled over... down at heel, begging for attention and fairness

SalviaBlue

(3,081 posts)
20. I learned a new term that I will add to my vocabulary:
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 02:05 PM
3 hrs ago

Anti Democractic Fundamentalist

It’s a perfect description.

SalviaBlue

(3,081 posts)
21. I learned a new term that I will add to my vocabulary:
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 02:06 PM
3 hrs ago

Anti Democractic Fundamentalist

It’s a perfect description.

Initech

(105,642 posts)
24. The people who claim that we're a "constitutional republic" don't know the first thing about the constitution.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 05:46 PM
1 min ago
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