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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(125,876 posts)
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 04:31 PM Thursday

Labor secretary says Americans want to work hard jobs for little pay

According to President Donald Trump’s labor secretary, Americans are jumping at the chance to work long, low-paid hours in the fields.

Lori Chavez-DeRemer appeared Wednesday on Fox News, where both she and the hosts challenged the silly leftist notion that U.S. citizens aren’t keen to take certain difficult jobs.

“What happened to the threat from the left that American citizens won’t do the jobs that illegal immigrants are willing to do?” asked Todd Piro, co=host of “Fox & Friends First.” “Because when I look at these numbers, I think, ‘Nope, the American citizen is willing to do those jobs.’”

“Americans are willing to do the job,” Chavez-DeRemer replied. “What we have to give them is the opportunity to have those jobs.”



https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/7/9/2332531/-Labor-secretary-says-Americans-want-to-work-hard-jobs-for-little-pay
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BOSSHOG

(43,225 posts)
1. And we'll work without healthcare
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 04:35 PM
Thursday

And without food and we’ll live in tents in flood planes and be subject to the whims of the hatred and ignorance of the Republican Party. The American Dream. Damn Skippy. And we’re willing to give most of our paltry salary to the Church of the State. Praise Jesus.

ananda

(32,566 posts)
2. OK, riddle me this.
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 04:35 PM
Thursday

Why are Republicans running so hard with this
crazy idea?

Is there an ulterior motive?

Do they really believe plantation literature and
the notion of the happy slave?

All I see down the road with it is empty grocery
shelves and seriously possible chances of
starvation for many people.

Help.

WestMichRad

(2,392 posts)
4. Why?
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 04:58 PM
Thursday

They’re trying to figure out a way to blame the libs when this idiotic notion inevitably tanks. They’re grasping at straws.

ananda

(32,566 posts)
12. That IS a given with everything they do.
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 06:07 PM
Thursday

But I want to know if there is any actual reasoning
behind it, and the notion of the happy slave
and involuntary servitude is all I can come up with...

and, to me, that is truly crazy.

canetoad

(19,278 posts)
13. I suspect it will eventually be tied
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 06:15 PM
Thursday

To receiving benefits ie Medicare/Medicaid. Accept a job in the fields or lose your benefits.

haele

(14,393 posts)
15. Well, yes, the authoritarian myth of the simple slave is behind this thought process...
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 06:48 PM
Thursday

In the Authoritarian world, there is a Benevolent Master, the Journeyman Professional, and the Worker Drone

The Benevolent Master is the parent of the he home, wise and properly educated. He was born with the proper mental acuity to handle "deep" thinking, long term planning and strategizing.

The Journeyman Professional is able to make a living on his own, like a young man starting out, but not able enough where he doesn't have to get his hands dirty anymore - a quick thinking tinkerer who leverages other people's work, good at organizing established concepts, a craftsman, organizer, or tactician. There are a few who can strategize or network using their natural talents or reputation to grow to a position of "Master" (in a "Master/Journeyman" dynamic), but most remain Journeymen, living comfortably as they are competent enough providing services to the Masters as needed.

But most of the world is made up of worker drones. Simple minded, like young children. Who might be talented in one (or several) way they could be a Journeyman or even Master, but there's always serious flaws or faults they are just born with that makes them pretty much incapable of amounting to much of anything. Worker drones never going to prosper or produce much of anything, so they should just be happy to live and work like the fungible livestock or pets they share value with.

So yeah, we Masses should just realize we're immensely honored if a Master or Journeyman chooses to employ our otherwise disposable asses.

I'm only being partially sarcastic here - because there are way too many inbred upper class sociopaths, lucky grifters, and desperate small pond/big fish incels and queen bees who act like this Plantation Fantasy of theirs can be successful in a Real World environment.

WestMichRad

(2,392 posts)
18. Well...
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 09:06 PM
Thursday

I for one lack confidence in the notion that there is any significant thought behind their actions, beyond what is defined in the Project 2025 manifesto. A decree is issued
(eg cut government employees, deport “others”), then they find themselves scrambling to deal with the adverse consequences. I know that’s an oversimplification, but it’s also been a regularly repeating pattern.

ananda

(32,566 posts)
20. No, you're right. They are following the 2025 playbook.
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 10:47 PM
Thursday

I expect the main thought is to make the country white,
with males in charge and women as gestation machines...
and for the authoritarian government to profit from it.

It IS pretty simple, and yet it requires a very complex
set of lies, fueled by hate. to get people behind it.

DBoon

(23,940 posts)
6. yes, they really believe plantation literature
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 05:13 PM
Thursday

and are setting us up for a return to involuntary labor

They have already proposed that Medicaid recipients be forced to do these jobs.

Next will be anyone on any form of public assistance, those who are behind repaying their student loans, then maybe round up all the homeless.

Followed by political prisoners.

KatyaR

(3,600 posts)
14. Put a bunch of seniors in the fields picking crops.
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 06:48 PM
Thursday

Many, if not most, of them will collapse, and many will die.

Voila--fewer Medicare/Medicaid recipients!

(The cruelty is the point.)

cloudbase

(6,003 posts)
5. I know.
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 05:00 PM
Thursday

I can't tell you the number of bright young students who have told me they want to be roofers in Texas. Especially during the summer months.

Karasu

(1,591 posts)
7. "What happened to the threat from the left that American citizens won't do the jobs that illegal immigrants are willing
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 05:34 PM
Thursday

Last edited Thu Jul 10, 2025, 10:21 PM - Edit history (1)

to do?"

What the fuck do they mean, what happened to it? Nothing happened to it. We're STILL saying it and we'll continue to say it because it's fucking true. Americans don't want to do these jobs. You fascist fucks are just trying your damnedest to go back to involuntary labor by making it so Americans are forced to do these jobs thanks to your fucking hard-on for getting rid of all the "illegals."

This woman is a waste of fucking oxygen.

maxsolomon

(36,896 posts)
8. And what "threat"?
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 05:42 PM
Thursday

We're not threatening anyone, FFS. It's just facing facts.

Another fact is that there aren't anywhere near 34 million "able-bodied" Medicaid recipients.

Karasu

(1,591 posts)
9. Exactly. They live completely in their own fucking post-factual reality. Good luck rounding up all those babies and
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 05:46 PM
Thursday

old folks.

We are ruled by fucking conspiracy theorists who don't know anything about statistics and just make up whatever the fuck they want. It's an utter joke.

DBoon

(23,940 posts)
10. Americans know a sucker deal when they see one
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 06:00 PM
Thursday

They don't need a "threat from the left" to figure this out.

IcyPeas

(23,885 posts)
17. Trump's history of using foreign workers in his business ventures:
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 08:27 PM
Thursday

Trump's history of using foreign workers in his business ventures - ABC News https://share.google/2vgFhdPVVgBDwmJzG

Trump said he couldn't find Americans for his own businesses. So, yeah, fuck you Trump and everyone who works for you.

According to The Palm Beach Post, during the busy winter season from the end of 2015 through the beginning of 2016, Mar-a-Lago administrators requested 69 foreign workers to fill positions as housekeepers, waiters and cooks. The Department of Labor signed off on that request, according to the paper. The H-2B visa program allows American companies to hire low-wage foreign nonagricultural workers.

That number was down from the two prior seasons: Mar-a-Lago requested 90 visas in 2014 and 87 in 2013, according to The Palm Beach Post.

Trump previously defended his decision to use foreign workers.

In an interview with ABC News' George Stephanopoulos last June, Trump said, "It's very, very hard to get people in Palm Beach during the Palm Beach season."

"Sometimes [you] have to bring people in," he said.

Later in the interview, when pressed about the specifics of how many people were hired by Mar-a-Lago under the H-2B visa program, Trump said he wasn't the one in charge.

"Well, you know what? I don't hire the people. I don't hire 'em. But I will tell you this. During the Palm Beach season, it is very, very hard to get people. During the season, you can't get people ... But if you look at all of the other places in Palm Beach, they're all doing exactly the same thing," he said.

Trump winery:
A job order request was filed with the Department of Labor in February by Trump Winery in Charlottesville, Virginia, petitioning for H-2A temporary work visas for 23 foreign workers to fill vineyard farming positions. Trump Vineyard Estates LLC is currently run and owned by the president's son Eric Trump.

The H-2A temporary agricultural program allows employers to bring nonimmigrant foreign workers into the country to fill seasonal or temporary agricultural jobs when they expect a scarcity of domestic workers to fulfill those needs. The Department of Labor requires that employers using this program show that they were unable to fill their seasonal needs with domestic workers.

Rather than requesting workers for the winter season, as in Florida, Trump Vineyard administrators are asking for workers from the beginning of April through the end of October.

In December the vineyard filed a separate H-2A visa request to hire six foreign agricultural workers to fill farmwork positions from the end of January through the second half of June.

Modeling
Trump's foray into the fashion world through his namesake modeling agency also led to requests for foreign worker visas.
At Trump Model Management, H-1B visas were used for some of the foreign-born models. Those visas are set aside for specialty occupations, including modeling.

Despite his company's use of that type of visa, Trump took a shot at that category during the campaign.

"I will end forever the use of the H-1B as a cheap labor program and institute an absolute requirement to hire American workers first for every visa and immigration program. No exceptions," read a statement posted to Trump's website in March 2016.


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