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Bernardo de La Paz

(55,674 posts)
1. In harbours, such ships are controlled by the tugboats along side them.
Sun May 18, 2025, 06:51 AM
5 hrs ago

I think you have misplaced your blame. I hope it was not by reflex to avoid blaming American tugboat operators. I do not know the exact cause, but the vessel was under guidance and control of the tugboat there.

TnDem

(798 posts)
4. re: harbors
Sun May 18, 2025, 07:54 AM
3 hrs ago

Actually, in ports and harbors, a harbor PILOT boards the ship and guides it into the harbor and berth, taking the wheel from the actual ship Captain.

The tugboats do not steer the ship, the pilot does.

haele

(14,196 posts)
5. This was a Tall Ship, not under sail, limited engine steerage
Sun May 18, 2025, 08:05 AM
3 hrs ago

Different weight disbursal and maneuverability than most modern ships that size.
While the Captain is ultimately at fault, there were significant errors made by the tugs and/or harbor pilot.

Wonder Why

(5,737 posts)
6. Was it a Qatari Air Force One pilot practicing? Probably didn't have enough water landings under
Sun May 18, 2025, 08:47 AM
3 hrs ago

his belt.

Bernardo de La Paz

(55,674 posts)
7. Correct. Tugboats in communication with pilot. Very unlikely to be fault of Mexican command at all. . . .nt
Sun May 18, 2025, 09:04 AM
2 hrs ago

RoseTrellis

(9 posts)
11. No tug attached
Sun May 18, 2025, 09:59 AM
1 hr ago

You can clearly see that the tug was not attached. Perhaps it had already cast off its lines, but it was seen racing to get into a position to slow/stop the runaway ship. Initial analysis seems to indicate the ship was stuck in reverse.


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brush

(59,866 posts)
3. Maybe try the Hudson River like the tall ships did in the Bicentenial of 1976 with no problems of tricky currents...
Sun May 18, 2025, 07:46 AM
4 hrs ago

of the East River in NYC. I have a feeling that captain is gonna lose his/her command from hitting the Brooklyn Bridge. What the hell was he/she thinking? There's also the Manhattan Bridge and the Williamsburg Bridge to travel under on the East River...and I doubt the Williamsburg Bridge, is higher than the Brooklyn Bridge.

Conjuay

(2,422 posts)
9. Charts list MHW - "Mean High Water" as well as depth. Don't they?
Sun May 18, 2025, 09:14 AM
2 hrs ago

This wasn't a case of scraping the top of the mast on the underside of the roadway.
Those poor bastards standing in the rigging watching the bridge coming at them in slow motion...

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