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SalamanderSleeps

(781 posts)
Sun May 18, 2025, 04:20 AM 7 hrs ago

Bernie is really fucking old. He can't leave the door open forever.

AOC + Mayor Pete.
2028

I've been on DU since the very beginning.

I dare anyone to say this ticket would not work.

No whining.

We are the Democrats, not the Democrat Party.

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Bernie is really fucking old. He can't leave the door open forever. (Original Post) SalamanderSleeps 7 hrs ago OP
Sorry, not seeing a broad appeal fujiyamasan 6 hrs ago #1
trump never won an election for anything mountain grammy 2 hrs ago #10
Yes, but also rich and famous and able to get away with stunts we would never pull. CTyankee 1 hr ago #11
And that just proves the point of the need to have at least statewide political experience. n/t valleyrogue 52 min ago #15
Nope. That's wishful thinking and not something that would work in the real world. Oopsie Daisy 5 hrs ago #2
Buttegieg 2028 markie 5 hrs ago #3
I liked Bernie becoming a... Mike Nelson 5 hrs ago #4
You have been here since 2022? pwb 4 hrs ago #5
This ticket would not work. bottomofthehill 3 hrs ago #6
Sorry, both need to win a state wide race, the US Senate, serve there like Pres. O did before... brush 2 hrs ago #7
The beginning was 20 years before you joined obamanut2012 2 hrs ago #8
AOC + Mayor Pete equals a Republican elected in 2028. elocs 2 hrs ago #9
I'll join the bandwagon taking your dare. RandomNumbers 1 hr ago #12
Why not edhopper 1 hr ago #13
LOL!!!!! valleyrogue 53 min ago #14
Too post-modern and academic. David__77 38 min ago #16

fujiyamasan

(108 posts)
1. Sorry, not seeing a broad appeal
Sun May 18, 2025, 05:23 AM
6 hrs ago

Neither of them have won a statewide office, anywhere.

Both are skilled communicators, but I’d like to see them win more than a very blue district or small town office to seriously consider them for president.

CTyankee

(66,174 posts)
11. Yes, but also rich and famous and able to get away with stunts we would never pull.
Sun May 18, 2025, 10:06 AM
1 hr ago

And a cunning repuke party willing to do anything to worm its way back into power, backed by some very rich men who wanted to get richer and richer off the public dime.

valleyrogue

(2,074 posts)
15. And that just proves the point of the need to have at least statewide political experience. n/t
Sun May 18, 2025, 10:46 AM
52 min ago

Oopsie Daisy

(5,761 posts)
2. Nope. That's wishful thinking and not something that would work in the real world.
Sun May 18, 2025, 05:51 AM
5 hrs ago

Elections are won from the center. AOC would not appeal to the center, the square states, the red states, the flat states, the flyover states, or any state with "North" or "South" or "West" as part of its name.

Mike Nelson

(10,572 posts)
4. I liked Bernie becoming a...
Sun May 18, 2025, 06:10 AM
5 hrs ago

... Democrat and running for President. He balanced the debate stage and helped the people see the "far left" and "moderate" candidates. Now, I'm not so sure it will work... every Democrat is a "left wing lunatic" to the new MAGA party. I'd like to see AOC move toward more governing... I think she will. She's so smart. The right wing like to portray her as the "new Bernie" and, also, as stupid... that ends when you watch her speak for any period of time. Mayor Pete is already there. He's a candidate, for sure.

bottomofthehill

(9,164 posts)
6. This ticket would not work.
Sun May 18, 2025, 07:48 AM
3 hrs ago

Noe even close. Michigan, nope, Pennsylvania, nope, Wisconsin, nope, Arizona, opened Mexico, nope, Nevada, nope, Minnesota, nope, New Hampshire, maybe not, Maine Maybe not, Virginia, maybe not, North Carolina, nope…..

brush

(59,866 posts)
7. Sorry, both need to win a state wide race, the US Senate, serve there like Pres. O did before...
Sun May 18, 2025, 08:44 AM
2 hrs ago

a presidential run. One other thing, I don't like bringing it up but we've lost running two women in a row so I'll just mention what an OP from a couple of days ago pointed out: trump has never beaten a male candidate so I think we'd better switch it up and run a male candidate.

Sorry, ladies, but let's be pragmatic and go with the best odds to win. The repugs would not have such a big advantage with the white male vote if we run a male. And we have a deep bench of qualified and experienced male candidates...Pritzker of Ill, Kelly of AZ, Beshear of Ken, Moore of MD and others. Some say Gov. Newsom of Calif. is too blue and leftist but he seems to be moving to center on his podcast, I think to make him more acceptable to white males. Probably won't work.

There's also Gov. Wals of Minn.

elocs

(24,312 posts)
9. AOC + Mayor Pete equals a Republican elected in 2028.
Sun May 18, 2025, 09:08 AM
2 hrs ago

There are even Democrats and Independents who would not vote for that ticket.

Why is it that as Democrats when we love a candidate that we are blind to the distinct possibility that the nation simply would never elect them as president and vice president? After our first 2 female candidates lose to Trump, what could possibly go wrong with a 3rd, especially paired with a gay male (who is absolutely qualified but unelectable at this time and your wishing it were so doesn't make it happen.)
That is not an electable ticket in a year when we so desperately need a Democrat to win.

It's as my sig reads: "I'm not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat."
Will Rogers

RandomNumbers

(18,603 posts)
12. I'll join the bandwagon taking your dare.
Sun May 18, 2025, 10:18 AM
1 hr ago

A woman prez and LGBT veep ticket?

Might win 3 states - Mass, CA, Vermont. (just off the top of my head - no intention to disparage any states)

In elections, you have to get the most votes of everyone who is eligible to vote - and that includes way more people that don't think like your post requires, than do think like that.

It sucks but unless we meet the majority where they are, we will keep losing. (We need to change where the majority is - but that won't happen when we lose to disasters like TSF.)

edhopper

(35,947 posts)
13. Why not
Sun May 18, 2025, 10:21 AM
1 hr ago

don't know why a country that rejected an extremely intelligent and qualified candidate in favor of a criminal dolt because she was a woman of color, wouldn't vote for a Gay man. That would surely get back the Red States, Latino and Black voters who have never shown any homophobia.
That's the ticket.

David__77

(24,074 posts)
16. Too post-modern and academic.
Sun May 18, 2025, 11:00 AM
38 min ago

It would appear brittle next to more Trumpism. That isn’t a function of where they fall on a conventional left-right spectrum or their gender or sexual orientation, even though that’s how it would be expressed.

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