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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(123,053 posts)
Sat May 17, 2025, 07:51 PM 16 hrs ago

Two states have now passed fluoride bans. These other ones introduced bills.

Following a push by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and another Republican-led state, Florida this week banned the long-standing practice of adding fluoride to public water systems.

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In a measure opposed by dentists and medical organizations but praised by Kennedy, the secretary of U.S. Health and Human Services, and others questioning it's safety, Utah became the first state to ban fluoride earlier this year.

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Several other states have introduced bills that would curb the use of fluoride in water. They include:

Kentucky

Louisiana

Massachusetts

Nebraska

South Carolina

Lawmakers in other states including North Dakota, Arkansas, Tennessee, Montana and New Hampshire saw anti-fluoride legislation effort but the bill either failed or was tabled and missed deadline for the year.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/two-states-now-passed-fluoride-194310136.html

Bobby Brainworm also recommends swimming in fecal contaminated water as a way to build up one's resistance.

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Two states have now passed fluoride bans. These other ones introduced bills. (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 16 hrs ago OP
meth mouth will be endemic soon Shellback Squid 16 hrs ago #1
Yep, which is worse fluoride in the water or sewage and fecal matter? Walleye 15 hrs ago #2
Doctor's prescription surfered 15 hrs ago #3
Massachusetts? Mossfern 15 hrs ago #4
I had the same thought. dem4decades 15 hrs ago #5
Fluoride in water is banned in most of Europe at140 15 hrs ago #6
I think most of those countries offer free dental care with fluoride treatments Bernardo de La Paz 15 hrs ago #8
I use professional grade fluoride tooth paste at140 3 hrs ago #12
Nano hydroxyapatite Toothpaste DenaliDemocrat 3 hrs ago #14
It's not banned in any European countries madville 15 hrs ago #11
Banned or not using is just symantics at140 3 hrs ago #13
Opposed by the experts D_Master81 15 hrs ago #7
Supported by dentist's accountants. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz 15 hrs ago #10
Calgary re-introducing Fl after health declines. RFnKjr's ban based on study w variables confounded by local cond'ns. Bernardo de La Paz 15 hrs ago #9
Don't know how true it is - womanofthehills 2 hrs ago #15
I'm a dentist and I LIVE this issue: PCIntern 2 hrs ago #16

at140

(6,165 posts)
6. Fluoride in water is banned in most of Europe
Sat May 17, 2025, 08:17 PM
15 hrs ago

Many European countries have rejected water fluoridation, including: Austria, Belgium, Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Northern Ireland, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland,[68] Scotland,[69] Iceland, and Italy.[70] A 2003 survey of over 500 Europeans from 16 countries concluded that "the vast majority of people opposed water fluoridation".

Bernardo de La Paz

(55,674 posts)
8. I think most of those countries offer free dental care with fluoride treatments
Sat May 17, 2025, 08:30 PM
15 hrs ago

I know Denmark and Belgium do.

at140

(6,165 posts)
12. I use professional grade fluoride tooth paste
Sun May 18, 2025, 08:02 AM
3 hrs ago

to help reduce cavities. But I do not see the need to drink fluoride.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,634 posts)
14. Nano hydroxyapatite Toothpaste
Sun May 18, 2025, 08:45 AM
3 hrs ago

Will actually reduce small cavities. Fluoride will not. It is purely preventative. Most of Asia and Europe use hydroxyapatite toothpaste. It is superior but more expensive- like double.

madville

(7,704 posts)
11. It's not banned in any European countries
Sat May 17, 2025, 08:41 PM
15 hrs ago

Some simply choose not to fluoridate their tap water. Many of those add flouride to salt like we do with iodine. Some add flouride to milk.

Not all water utilities in the U.S add flouride either, the last two I have been on do not. Many people in my area of the state have their own water wells also. Here in Florida at least flouride is a naturally occurring element from the aquifer anyway, so it’s in most tap water whether they add more or not.

at140

(6,165 posts)
13. Banned or not using is just symantics
Sun May 18, 2025, 08:05 AM
3 hrs ago

Personally, I buy professional grade fluoride toothpaste from Dentist office.
Because I believe it helps reduce cavities. But I see no need to drink the chemical.

D_Master81

(2,054 posts)
7. Opposed by the experts
Sat May 17, 2025, 08:18 PM
15 hrs ago

Which is exactly why it is happening. If experts think something, MAGA says do the exact opposite

Bernardo de La Paz

(55,674 posts)
9. Calgary re-introducing Fl after health declines. RFnKjr's ban based on study w variables confounded by local cond'ns.
Sat May 17, 2025, 08:32 PM
15 hrs ago
https://www.dentistryiq.com/dentistry/research-and-news/article/55248093/why-calgary-reversed-its-decision-on-fluoride-after-10-years

The Times article details what happened in Calgary after fluoride was removed: “multiple studies” showed that caries and caries treatments increased in children in the subsequent years. The number of children receiving IV antibiotics for dental infections at Alberta Children’s Hospital increased by 700% from 2011 to 2018. The majority of these patients were under five years old.

In a 2021 referendum, Calgary voters elected to put fluoride back in the water, and completion is due early next year.

One dentist interviewed by The Times observed “a rise in decalcification along the gum line,” rather than the usual decay on biting surfaces of teeth that is associated with a caries-producing diet. Other studies noted that more children required general anesthesia for their dental procedures during this time.


Of course, poor people can't afford general anaesthesia or IV antibiotics. Calgary (because it is in Canada) has free healthcare for all funded by taxes.

RFnKjr and Florida (ironic name) are basing their bans on a study that showed some problems with Fluoride but their results were poor because they were confounded by local conditions that are not applicable in the US.

RFnKjr wants to ban dentist fluoride treatments!
high-income countries such as Denmark and Belgium don’t fluoridate their water, but have better dental health than the United States. Both these countries provide universal dental coverage, including for children.

womanofthehills

(9,752 posts)
15. Don't know how true it is -
Sun May 18, 2025, 09:21 AM
2 hrs ago

But read recently fluoride put directly on your teeth works way better than ingesting it.

PCIntern

(27,333 posts)
16. I'm a dentist and I LIVE this issue:
Sun May 18, 2025, 09:50 AM
2 hrs ago

These people are the equivalent of Typhoid Mary. Wait until they see the uptick in cardiac-related deaths in fifty years. They’ll blame the long-dead Joe Biden.

You ain’t seen nothing yet.

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