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marble falls

(65,390 posts)
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:29 PM 22 hrs ago

We are spiraling down the hole Dept: Murder victim 'speaks' beyond the grave in AI generated video at sentencing

Murder victim 'speaks' beyond the grave in AI generated video at sentencing

The judge said he was moved by the video before sentencing.
ByIvan Pereira
May 9, 2025, 11:58 AM

https://abcnews.go.com/US/murder-victim-speaks-grave-ai-generated-video-sentencing/story?id=121638079


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Prosecutors asked the judge for Horcasitas to be sentenced to nine and a half years in prison, but Judge Todd Lang ultimately issued a 10 and a half year sentence. Lang said he was moved by the AI-generated video.

"I loved that AI, thank you for that. As angry as you are, as justifiably angry as the family is, I heard the forgiveness," the judge said during the sentencing. "I feel that that was genuine."

Horcasitas's attorney, Jason Lamm, told ABC News that he was not given advanced notice about the video. He argued in court that Pelkey was the one who instigated the road rage incident and what the judge heard was a "kinder, more gentle" version of Pelkey.

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He said he has filed a notice of appeal for his client and that the use of the AI-generated video will likely be one of the points of contention.

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Pelkey's sister told reporters the victim's friends and family "agreed this capture was a true representation of the spirit and soul of how Chris would have thought about his own sentencing as a murder victim."

What if the convicted wanted to dispute that AI with one of his own fact checking the victimAi?? This is an unnecessary disaster about to happen.

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We are spiraling down the hole Dept: Murder victim 'speaks' beyond the grave in AI generated video at sentencing (Original Post) marble falls 22 hrs ago OP
Yes, this was a preposterous exercise. harumph 22 hrs ago #1
The right to confront witnesses is the heart of the 6th Amendment Ponietz 22 hrs ago #2
This will be appealed - Ms. Toad 22 hrs ago #3
An interesting event indeed .... anciano 21 hrs ago #4
That's fucked up. Solly Mack 21 hrs ago #5
A scripted, ARTIFICIAL, third-party created artifact isn't de-facto hearsay? dickthegrouch 20 hrs ago #6
If it isn't actual video of the victim, I don't think it should be used. nt Ilsa 19 hrs ago #7
Crazy... Meowmee 19 hrs ago #8
Weird Black Mirror stuff. Tommy Carcetti 19 hrs ago #9

harumph

(2,700 posts)
1. Yes, this was a preposterous exercise.
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:40 PM
22 hrs ago

For reasons too numerous to describe. An AI simulation of a victim's statement - presented in court. I don't understand how this won't lead to a possible challenge. Does this introduce the concept that AI can serve as a proxy or agent (...posthumously!!)? This serves to fuel my misanthropic fantasies of moving to a very remote place and watching this country burn from afar.

Ponietz

(3,685 posts)
2. The right to confront witnesses is the heart of the 6th Amendment
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:56 PM
22 hrs ago

I read that jassack AI has a future crimes mode now.

Ms. Toad

(36,922 posts)
3. This will be appealed -
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:57 PM
22 hrs ago

And my guess is that he will win.

It is one thing to a live victim to use AI as part of their victim impact statement. (The justification for allowing it - there are no limits on how a presents their statement.) They can confirm the truth of what the AI presents. It is an entirely different thing to use AI to put imagined words in the mouth of sometime who can't challenge it.

anciano

(1,792 posts)
4. An interesting event indeed ....
Sat May 17, 2025, 03:08 PM
21 hrs ago

especially the subsequent comments by Arizona Chief Justice Timmer about the use of AI going forward.

dickthegrouch

(4,018 posts)
6. A scripted, ARTIFICIAL, third-party created artifact isn't de-facto hearsay?
Sat May 17, 2025, 04:22 PM
20 hrs ago

The judge that accepted that should be given a taste of that medicine!

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