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Charmin One

(267 posts)
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:28 PM 23 hrs ago

A MAGAt I know

Here is wgat a MAGAt I know believes:
Trump’s tariffs will raise enough money to the point where income tax will be eliminated.
About Trump’s hypocrisy on accepting gifts: “Things change”
On Fox’s heavy criticism of Trump’s mental facultues: “you believe that bias?” I responded “It’s Fox freaking news criticizing him”, to which he replied “A good leader delegates.”

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Silent Type

(9,404 posts)
1. I get it. I've quit trying to reason with trumpsters, and that's 70% of population where I live.
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:35 PM
22 hrs ago

Aviation Pro

(14,314 posts)
2. Tell the worthless, fucking thief of oxygen
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:38 PM
22 hrs ago

That income taxes will be eliminated because tariffs are a sales tax.

Charmin One

(267 posts)
3. I think he will be highly disappointed
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:43 PM
22 hrs ago

Not only would he pay more due to tariffs, but income taxes will not be eliminated. What a pipe dream!

rsdsharp

(10,793 posts)
11. If it works the way he claims (it won't) it will eventually be zero.
Sat May 17, 2025, 02:08 PM
22 hrs ago

He wants to bring all manufacturing back to the US. Putting aside the cost of goods manufactured in the US, which is why stuff was off shored in the first place, if we aren’t importing stuff there are no tariffs. So zero dollars from tariffs, and zero income tax, makes the US very, very broke.

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,366 posts)
4. That MAGAt, like every MAGAt,
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:45 PM
22 hrs ago

are morons, your friend doesn't have a fucking clue about what he's spewing out of his pie hole.

Bernardo de La Paz

(55,680 posts)
5. The only way to deal with them is by emotions
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:48 PM
22 hrs ago

Instead of talking about "emoluments" and the Constitution, say things like "tRump got his christmas present, how about your kids, what are you going to afford?" "You got your truck you want before the tariff taxes hit?"

In a little while they will have an extended family member who got their hours cut back or an in-law who lost a part-time job.

When stuff happens, don't directly blame tRump, commiserate (I know, be an actor) and say, "well it didn't have to be that way, it's sad" and leave it at that. Make them connect the emotional dots.

Can't always play it that way and sometimes an in-their-face reminder is more effective.

Walleye

(40,308 posts)
8. That's right. It's a waste of time to try to use logic to convince people to give up their racism, misogyny, prejudices
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:56 PM
22 hrs ago

They are in a cult. They will repeat Trump’s lies, no matter how blatantly false, to prove that they are worthy of being a magat

Bernardo de La Paz

(55,680 posts)
10. Emotion is a part of where the Allies had successes w anti-Nazi propaganda in WW2. . . . nt
Sat May 17, 2025, 02:06 PM
22 hrs ago

Walleye

(40,308 posts)
14. It worked during the Cold War too. But nobody's clear on who the enemies are in this situation.
Sat May 17, 2025, 03:58 PM
20 hrs ago

Charmin One

(267 posts)
6. Alsi this
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:52 PM
22 hrs ago

He claims the media didn’t go after Biden’s “mental decline” like they do with Trump.

Aristus

(69,943 posts)
9. I try not to argue with people who are in a coma.
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:56 PM
22 hrs ago

He would have to have been in a coma not to have known about the solid week during which the media spewed nothing but Biden’s poor showing at the debate.

LetMyPeopleVote

(163,118 posts)
13. Ask this idiot why trump is demanding that Walmart eat the tariffs if China is really paying these tariffs
Sat May 17, 2025, 02:09 PM
22 hrs ago

If China is really paying these tariffs, why should Walmart have to "eat" these tariffs. trump has lied about how tariffs work and that lie is being exposed



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