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Sympthsical

(10,551 posts)
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:23 AM Yesterday

More Democrats watch Fox News than they do MSNBC

Just thought I'd throw that out there as an fyi since there's a conversation about this. This is from Nielsen MRI Fusion data from January of this year. (The text is from a Daily Mail article, which is why I'm not linking it, but the data is Nielsen's).

People complain about Fox, but they keep watching it - far more than any other outlet. It's not even close. Some of those calls are originating inside the house. And this is hardly the first survey to reflect this. It's been a data point for years.

Ain't just the rubes padding Fox's bottom line.

The statistics, taken from January of this year, show the outlet performs better than CNN and MSNBC in the 18 and over demographic.

Total primetime viewers for the network totaled 427,000 for Democratic voters, CNN reached only 174,000 Dems, while MSNBC hit 255,000.

In the same data bracket for independents, or those with no party affiliation, the network again was way out in front, raking in 709,000 viewers.

CNN managed to rake in only 117,000 independent viewers, while MSNBC took in 155,000, according to the data.

In the highly sought after 25 to 54 demographic, Fox again is out in front before the two, bringing in 54,000 Democratic voters during primetime hours.


I'm reminded of that great scene in Private Parts with Paul Giamatti where they discuss Howard Stern's ratings.

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More Democrats watch Fox News than they do MSNBC (Original Post) Sympthsical Yesterday OP
That is a disgusting thought....how could Dems stomach that crap? walkingman Yesterday #1
Hate watching Sympthsical Yesterday #2
Is that a good series? I've been seeing it but haven't put on My Stuff yet. walkingman Yesterday #21
Season One is fantastic Sympthsical 23 hrs ago #37
I hate watched the last couple seasons of Yellowstone. Lol Hassin Bin Sober 23 hrs ago #25
I always hear about that show Sympthsical 23 hrs ago #38
It a show about a family of serial killers that brands their workers and murders them if they become inconvenient. Hassin Bin Sober 22 hrs ago #44
Isn't that just an Amazon warehouse? Sympthsical 20 hrs ago #45
Lol. Hassin Bin Sober 20 hrs ago #47
Beyond me SheltieLover Yesterday #5
Many basic cable plans, especially in the south, ONLY carry fox Meadowoak 23 hrs ago #35
Outrage porn, maybe? Xavier Breath Yesterday #3
Dems, as Thomm Hartmann would say are boring. Gum Logger Yesterday #4
That is a remarkable statistic Septua Yesterday #6
Count me skeptical...Nielson data-- "fusion" or no--has a lot of limitations. hlthe2b Yesterday #7
These numbers have been consistent for years and years Sympthsical Yesterday #9
How can they be Democrats then? NowsTheTime Yesterday #8
Probably all they have access to. Many basic cable packages Meadowoak 23 hrs ago #36
Have heard that many of the over-55 condos in Fla. still subscribe to cable. Residents have a allegorical oracle 20 hrs ago #46
Why make yourself miserable? things are bad enough. CTyankee Yesterday #10
FOX or MSNBC Dave Id Yesterday #11
Lots of left youtubers get content by watching Kali Yesterday #12
Absolutely Sympthsical Yesterday #14
Many years ago, when she was alive, my mom used to watch one of those idiot Wonder Why Yesterday #13
My mom listened to Rush Limbaugh for years Sympthsical Yesterday #16
I remember making the same observation a few years ago PSPS Yesterday #15
Agree Kaleva 23 hrs ago #33
In the early '60s, Lenny Bruce observed that liberals will buy anything a bigot writes . . . Journeyman Yesterday #17
Should we give up? Kingofalldems Yesterday #18
Hardly Sympthsical Yesterday #22
Fox "News" is comedy gold! Mysterian Yesterday #19
people watch the Cowboys whatever their record pstokely Yesterday #20
Can't understand Democrats watching, but I am struck with how few people watch FOX. There are 150 Million Silent Type Yesterday #23
I've never really understood the emphasis placed on cable news Sympthsical 23 hrs ago #26
Yes, the number of people who watch Fox is relatively tiny Kaleva 23 hrs ago #32
Podcasts are where people now get news womanofthehills 22 hrs ago #41
I'm old enough to remember Walter Cronkite and others like him. Rather than the ShoBiz entertainers we have now. Ping Tung 23 hrs ago #24
Ewwww. BigDemVoter 23 hrs ago #27
Watching to keep an eye on the opposition? mwmisses4289 23 hrs ago #28
I don't care who supposedly Faux pas 23 hrs ago #29
The numbers are so small, it's inconsequential. Kaleva 23 hrs ago #31
Which translates to 1% of registered D's watch Fox Kaleva 23 hrs ago #30
All of cable news is a small percentage of the population Sympthsical 22 hrs ago #39
I don't mind some Dems watching Fox, but Sneederbunk 23 hrs ago #34
I don't know why some of you guys ever watch Fox. Iggo 22 hrs ago #40
All the younger Dems are not into cable tv womanofthehills 22 hrs ago #42
So according to the stats you posted senseandsensibility 22 hrs ago #43
Self reporting "Dems"? MorbidButterflyTat 19 hrs ago #48
MSNBC is not on as many cable systems SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #49

Sympthsical

(10,551 posts)
2. Hate watching
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:30 AM
Yesterday

Which hey, I get. It's what's getting my house through the current season of The Last of Us.

But if people want to foment an effective boycott of the network, they're going to have to start closer to home.

Sympthsical

(10,551 posts)
37. Season One is fantastic
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:29 PM
23 hrs ago

Season two is . . . woof. It's really not so good. Every Sunday my partner asks why we're still watching. And it's like, "We've come this far . . ."

I just binged the Pitt in one week - rare for me. It was just so damn good. But I'm a nursing type now, so there's an appeal there. I told a friend who's an ICU nurse about it, and he texted me the next day. "I hate you. I did not sleep, because I watched all 15 episodes over the weekend."

I also really enjoyed season two of Andor which just wrapped up. I'm not a very Star Wars-y person, but it's very good. But then, I'd watch Diego Luna read a phone book.

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,071 posts)
25. I hate watched the last couple seasons of Yellowstone. Lol
Sat May 17, 2025, 12:47 PM
23 hrs ago

Sometimes I will flip over to Fox when some major anti trump news comes out - to check on the status of Hunter Biden’s laptop.

Sympthsical

(10,551 posts)
38. I always hear about that show
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:31 PM
23 hrs ago

Never seen it, but I can just imagine what it's like from the running internet commentary, lol.

The real scandal about Hunter Biden's laptop is that the man refused to upgrade to Sequoia. He's a Sonoma man through and through, and I'm just not sure if we can allow those kinds of people loose in society.

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,071 posts)
44. It a show about a family of serial killers that brands their workers and murders them if they become inconvenient.
Sat May 17, 2025, 02:10 PM
22 hrs ago

They’ve been dumping the bodies in the same spot for decades but it’s ok because it’s in a sparsely populated area with no sheriff. Apparently they don’t have hikers that could stumble on dozens of bodies or an FBI that might get a clue the dead people all worked for their ranch.

It’s a taylor Sheridan right wing circle jerk where the bad people are blue haired city folk. The good guys are wealthy landowners who drive $150,000 Bentleys and fly $2 million dollar helicopters and complain about their way of life (raising a handful of cattle on their mini ranch with) being ruined on the land they admit the family stole from Native Americans.

Gum Logger

(88 posts)
4. Dems, as Thomm Hartmann would say are boring.
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:32 AM
Yesterday

For decades, the inside the beltway echo chamber are considered whiney, wonky and uninspired.

Septua

(2,769 posts)
6. That is a remarkable statistic
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:44 AM
Yesterday

I tune into Fox occasionally just to see which item of propaganda is on the menu for the hour or day. Three or four minutes is the limit of my watching endurance.

Sympthsical

(10,551 posts)
9. These numbers have been consistent for years and years
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:56 AM
Yesterday

It's the first thing I think of whenever Fox boycott is a topic (and make no mistake, I am all good with people boycotting cable news).

I always check around to see if anything's changed. Nope. You don't have to stick to only Nielsen. There are plenty of other surveys that reflect a similar reality.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1463761/frequency-of-watching-fox-news-in-the-us-by-politics/


A survey held in the U.S. in spring 2023 found that 41 percent of Republicans watched Fox News every day or a few times per week, compared to only 21 percent of Democrats.


Democrats are watching.

Meadowoak

(6,470 posts)
36. Probably all they have access to. Many basic cable packages
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:26 PM
23 hrs ago

And senior plans only carry fox. MSNBC is a premium teir.

allegorical oracle

(4,887 posts)
46. Have heard that many of the over-55 condos in Fla. still subscribe to cable. Residents have a
Sat May 17, 2025, 04:08 PM
20 hrs ago

limited selection. A friend I know in that situation isn't even offered PBS as a choice.

CTyankee

(66,174 posts)
10. Why make yourself miserable? things are bad enough.
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:58 AM
Yesterday

I get fed up and go to read about a current art show or make myself happy finding a symphony playing Beethoven with all those crashing chords, or a choir singing Bach. You'd be surprised how the arts can lift your mood, make you happy or at least a bit more cheerful.

Try it (and let me know if it works OK for you)!

Kali

(56,227 posts)
12. Lots of left youtubers get content by watching
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:04 AM
Yesterday

I'm sure they aren't really a significant number but does illustrate motivation to watch beyond expected passive stupidity.

Sympthsical

(10,551 posts)
14. Absolutely
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:13 AM
Yesterday

Reaction videos drive a lot of traffic to the media they're platforming.

Any effective boycott has to include a total blackout by those attempting it.

But not only does Fox make money, Fox makes a lot of people who hate them money.

Wonder Why

(5,737 posts)
13. Many years ago, when she was alive, my mom used to watch one of those idiot
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:07 AM
Yesterday

commentator-like nutcases and all she ever did was tell me how much she hated him for his comments. I repeatedly suggested she not watch it but it never stopped her.

I guess some people watch or listen to shows just to keep up their dislike.

Sympthsical

(10,551 posts)
16. My mom listened to Rush Limbaugh for years
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:31 AM
Yesterday

One day, I got in the car with her, and there it was. It was so baffling, because she was a union Democrat until the day she died. Empathetic, liberal, a feminist. And I mean early, hard core for the 1950s and 60s. Joined the Army, then bought her own house and built a business and did not need a man to give her permission to do whatever the precise fuck she wanted.

So it was like . . . "Mom, wtf?!"

She said she found him entertaining.

PSPS

(14,542 posts)
15. I remember making the same observation a few years ago
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:17 AM
Yesterday

I remember seeing countless threads here on DU about boycotting various programs such as rush, fox, etc. But, at the same time, there would be a flood of outrage posts along the lines of, "did you see/hear what so-and-so said on their program?" followed, of course, with even more calls to "stop watching/listening" whatever was being mentioned.

I posted a comment along the lines of, "based on what I'm seeing here, these programs' ratings are largely boosted by DU members!"

Journeyman

(15,328 posts)
17. In the early '60s, Lenny Bruce observed that liberals will buy anything a bigot writes . . .
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:32 AM
Yesterday
You know? Liberals will buy anything a bigot writes. They really support it. George Lincoln Rockwell’s probably just a very knowledgeable businessman with no political convictions whatsoever. He gets three bucks a head working mass rallies of nothing but angry Jews shaking their fists and wondering why there are so many Jews there.

Take Bruce’s observations as you will. For me, it's disturbing to read such concrete confirmation of Bruce’s 60-year-old commentary as Sympthsical provides in this thread.

Sympthsical

(10,551 posts)
22. Hardly
Sat May 17, 2025, 12:09 PM
Yesterday

I'm noting that one of the effective things to do, should one wish to boycott, is peel Democrats away from the channel first. One assumes Democrats will be more persuadable to turning it off. Telling Democrat streaming and content creators to stop platforming it would be a helpful strategy.

Mysterian

(5,573 posts)
19. Fox "News" is comedy gold!
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:37 AM
Yesterday

It's amazing how they keep straight faces while telling all those lies.

pstokely

(10,787 posts)
20. people watch the Cowboys whatever their record
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:41 AM
Yesterday

other teams don't get viewers even when they're playing well

Silent Type

(9,404 posts)
23. Can't understand Democrats watching, but I am struck with how few people watch FOX. There are 150 Million
Sat May 17, 2025, 12:28 PM
Yesterday

Last edited Sat May 17, 2025, 01:09 PM - Edit history (1)

people who voted in 2024 election. The viewership is miniscle in comparison, even for the leader FOX.

Sympthsical

(10,551 posts)
26. I've never really understood the emphasis placed on cable news
Sat May 17, 2025, 12:47 PM
23 hrs ago

The demo, ages 25-54, frequently hits the same numbers as someone's random cat video on YouTube.

No, I tell lies. Cat videos get far, far, far more viewers.

No one's watching this stuff except older people. The format is literally dying. So whenever there's a "Did you see what someone said?!" it's like, no. No one else saw it either. Literally no one else saw it.

Frankly, I'm baffled how they're able to pay the talent the amounts they do. Do pharmaceutical companies pay that much? On any other network, most of these shows would be cancelled after the first season.

I think it's a media/political circle jerk whose time has passed. Everyone gets paid for the mutual access and back scratching. It's not a healthy relationship in a democracy, IMO. The press should be adversarial to power, not busting out their wallets.

womanofthehills

(9,752 posts)
41. Podcasts are where people now get news
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:51 PM
22 hrs ago

Some podcasts average 10 to 40 million views. Even the less viewed ones get higher views than Fox. I saw another poll saying the average Fox viewer is 66 yrs old.

Ping Tung

(2,373 posts)
24. I'm old enough to remember Walter Cronkite and others like him. Rather than the ShoBiz entertainers we have now.
Sat May 17, 2025, 12:36 PM
23 hrs ago

BigDemVoter

(4,625 posts)
27. Ewwww.
Sat May 17, 2025, 12:49 PM
23 hrs ago

I am a nurse, and Fox has always been on in our lounge until I hid the remote control. . .

mwmisses4289

(1,065 posts)
28. Watching to keep an eye on the opposition?
Sat May 17, 2025, 12:54 PM
23 hrs ago

Always good to know what your opponents are up to.
And of course, the comedic gold that channel constantly comes up with, because of how ignorant they seem to want to appear.

Kaleva

(39,335 posts)
30. Which translates to 1% of registered D's watch Fox
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:03 PM
23 hrs ago

Since a number of states don’t require a person to register, the percentage of all Dems who watch Fox is less then that.

Sympthsical

(10,551 posts)
39. All of cable news is a small percentage of the population
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:36 PM
22 hrs ago

Which is salient enough. But still. It's odd/funny that more watch Fox than MSNBC.

Sneederbunk

(16,167 posts)
34. I don't mind some Dems watching Fox, but
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:19 PM
23 hrs ago

I just wish they would not repeat what they see here.

Iggo

(48,827 posts)
40. I don't know why some of you guys ever watch Fox.
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:42 PM
22 hrs ago

But you do.

I do know why you stopped watching MSNBC, though. You been screaming about it for the last year or so. And good on you.

Now, statistics are a funny thing. Are the same amount of Dems watching Fox, while a lot fewer Dems are watching MSNBC because of the rage-quit? Or are there actually more Dems watching Fox now than there used to be?

womanofthehills

(9,752 posts)
42. All the younger Dems are not into cable tv
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:56 PM
22 hrs ago

Cable tv is boring compared to their phones.

senseandsensibility

(22,068 posts)
43. So according to the stats you posted
Sat May 17, 2025, 02:07 PM
22 hrs ago

the combined number of viewers watching either CNN or MSNBC is more than the number watching FAUX. Or put another way, more viewers are watching either a "moderate" network or a progressive one than a full out trump propaganda network. Not ideal, but I'll take it.

MorbidButterflyTat

(2,975 posts)
48. Self reporting "Dems"?
Sat May 17, 2025, 04:55 PM
19 hrs ago

How else would they know political affiliation?

But I'm sure MAGAts would never dream of impersonating Democrats and it's all very scientific and trustworthy, like Fox itself.

SocialDemocrat61

(4,505 posts)
49. MSNBC is not on as many cable systems
Sat May 17, 2025, 05:14 PM
19 hrs ago

as FAUX. So FAUX has a higher potential audience overall.

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