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Duncanpup

(14,460 posts)
Sat May 17, 2025, 08:42 AM Yesterday

Breakfast out table next to us bow their heads in prayer.

Then i could hear them complaining basically maga talking points.
Pope is too woke
Transgender getting booted from military
Who cares about immigrants being sent to foreign prisons.
Deport all foreigners no due process
Oh here’s one that was old litter boxes in school for students who identify as furries.
Congress needs to pass trumps big beautiful bill.

I kept quiet although i wanted to ask them if they ever heard of a guy called Jesus.

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Breakfast out table next to us bow their heads in prayer. (Original Post) Duncanpup Yesterday OP
Did they have their arms outstretched and hands waving in the air? I have seen that doc03 Yesterday #1
Doc they all held hands Duncanpup Yesterday #2
Next time you stop by the diner.... magicarpet 17 hrs ago #56
I'd hate to soldierant 16 hrs ago #62
Just trying to get him to smirk,.... magicarpet 16 hrs ago #64
Those would be Pentecostals, I was one as a young man & we went out to eat often, elocs Yesterday #7
Married a Pentacostal - interesting experience, me being anti-religious erronis Yesterday #17
Sounds like my ex CanonRay Yesterday #20
She did "get around". Wanna compare notes? erronis Yesterday #22
No thanks, truly bad memories CanonRay Yesterday #23
My ex was Assembly of God. Horrid people. Let children in other countries starve until they accepted Christ. mucholderthandirt Yesterday #25
I once heard a Pentecostal preacher say from the pulpit that a guy told him he wouldn't elocs Yesterday #43
There is a Biblical passage about how Christians should not be unequally yoked (married), elocs Yesterday #39
You are not the first atheist I have met (in person or online) who has extensive Biblical knowledge. Prof. Toru Tanaka Yesterday #32
As a Christian, I studied the Bible deeply in order to bolster and defend my faith elocs Yesterday #38
Recommended .... X 1000 KPN Yesterday #47
I'm one. ChazInAz Yesterday #49
Let us PREY... malaise Yesterday #3
"And when you pray" onethatcares Yesterday #4
Along with the "Judge ye not..." admonition. 3catwoman3 Yesterday #11
As an atheist now, I could support a belief system that is based upon that section of Matthew. elocs Yesterday #46
THAT'S a Scripture passage that I can never forget. calimary Yesterday #33
They don't know Jesus who taught against making a public show of your religiosity. elocs Yesterday #5
Prey to Jesus, vote for Barabbas. It's the republican way. n/t iscooterliberally Yesterday #6
This message was self-deleted by its author cayugafalls Yesterday #8
Matthew 6:5 cayugafalls Yesterday #9
They covered quite a lot of ground for a breakfast conversation Prairie Gates Yesterday #10
Good lord. They hit all the talking points in one meal? Iris Yesterday #12
They don't have anything else to talk about... hunter Yesterday #15
Let me guess Aviation Pro Yesterday #13
Run Duncan, run. twodogsbarking Yesterday #14
I would have asked to be moved to a table far away from them. Clouds Passing Yesterday #16
Absolutely Ferrets are Cool 16 hrs ago #61
The litter boxes thing would have sent me over the edge ms liberty Yesterday #18
Maybe shake your head and loudly whisper "Father, forgive them..." CTyankee Yesterday #19
I've been known to smile at such people and say "Jesus wept". But I'm mean that way. mucholderthandirt Yesterday #26
Ellie Griffiths? stillcool 17 hrs ago #57
I wouldn't have been able to eat my breakfast after hearing that nauseating conversation. Diamond_Dog Yesterday #21
i wish u did !!!! AllaN01Bear Yesterday #24
So they hit every single story in the news cycle. Dreamer Tatum Yesterday #27
It is right to thank Jesus. usonian Yesterday #28
Typical magats, Dunc SheltieLover Yesterday #29
Matthew 7:12 or Leviticus 19:18 Sharma Dreihund Yesterday #30
I'll bet they stiffed the server, too.... nt albacore Yesterday #31
I would've reminded them that Jesus, Mary, and Joseph..... lastlib Yesterday #34
I hope I'm not presented with a similar situation. I will speak up and call them out. flashman13 Yesterday #35
But then they have their own free speech rights as well. elocs Yesterday #48
Looks like FOX is doing their job! bif Yesterday #36
I just ignore that stuff. It only makes them feel leftyladyfrommo Yesterday #37
Wow. That's quite a MAGA list for a breakfast Nanjeanne Yesterday #40
You should have said Grace to Satan? pwb Yesterday #41
That would've been redundant relayerbob 17 hrs ago #60
Wrapped up in their stupidity infused safety blanket. Woke, immigrants, & transgender, the trifecta of ignorance! Brainfodder Yesterday #42
To riff off Will Rogers: Christianity aint what it used to be... ananda Yesterday #44
WWJT (What would Jesus think) Jean Genie Yesterday #45
Sounds right. There is no middle ground with this shit. Deplorable was waaay too kind. n/t Evolve Dammit 17 hrs ago #50
I hate that sanctimonious display of praying in public Blue Owl 17 hrs ago #51
The Pope is too woke.....Tell Jesus that one while you pray Tribetime 17 hrs ago #52
Public prayers over meals don't bother me. MAGAGOP politics bothers me. You&I probably agree there. Hekate 17 hrs ago #53
I do make a point, if they are obviously too loud and long (it gives me the permission), to join in. I mean ... marble falls 17 hrs ago #54
Why bother? MorbidButterflyTat 17 hrs ago #55
more proof to me Skittles 17 hrs ago #58
Should have loudly requested another table relayerbob 17 hrs ago #59
Dear Lord May nobody shoot me in the back while Tribetime 16 hrs ago #63
Maybe they were praying to Cthulhu nilram 14 hrs ago #65
They're in a cult which has nothing to do with Jesus Martin Eden 4 hrs ago #66

doc03

(37,812 posts)
1. Did they have their arms outstretched and hands waving in the air? I have seen that
Sat May 17, 2025, 08:57 AM
Yesterday

public display many times.

magicarpet

(18,213 posts)
56. Next time you stop by the diner....
Sat May 17, 2025, 07:17 PM
17 hrs ago

Bring a canvas dufflebag with ten snakes and ten bibles. Then polish up on your ability to speak and pray in tongues.

If the back parking lot is big enough consider pitching a tent for weekly revival meetings.

Reverent Duncan has a nice ring to it.





elocs

(24,312 posts)
7. Those would be Pentecostals, I was one as a young man & we went out to eat often,
Sat May 17, 2025, 09:23 AM
Yesterday

but we never raised our hands and had pretty ordinary conversations that you wouldn't hear unless you were trying to listen in on it. They were good people because they would help anyone in need without demanding to know if the person was a believer or not, but to be a good witness for Jesus and have a chance to witness. There are all kinds of religious people.
I am an atheist now but I've read the entire Bible several times and studied it in its original languages.

erronis

(19,690 posts)
17. Married a Pentacostal - interesting experience, me being anti-religious
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:21 AM
Yesterday

I'm fine with people believing in whatever they want. Just don't try to change me to match your cult's ideas. Besides this person would change from religious to drunk to party girl when it suited her.

mucholderthandirt

(1,501 posts)
25. My ex was Assembly of God. Horrid people. Let children in other countries starve until they accepted Christ.
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:44 AM
Yesterday

Was forced to go to church at times (got tired of arguing), waving hands, stumbling about, collapsed on the floor in spasms, speaking in tongues. Ex said, it's in the Bible. I said it sure was. Someone who understands the passage should explain what it actually meant.

People can call themselves "Christian" all they want. When they are going against Christ's teachings, they are liars and hypocrites. The one sin God can not forgive? Hypocrisy. Because the hypocrites don't believe they've sinned, and thus can't ask for forgiveness.

elocs

(24,312 posts)
43. I once heard a Pentecostal preacher say from the pulpit that a guy told him he wouldn't
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:49 AM
Yesterday

go to church because there were too many hypocrites. The preacher said he told him, "Well come right in, one more wouldn't make any difference."
The Bible says that the unforgivable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
Even a hypocrite can have a moment of contrition and ask for forgiveness.

elocs

(24,312 posts)
39. There is a Biblical passage about how Christians should not be unequally yoked (married),
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:37 AM
Yesterday

believer and non-believer. It would be hard to imagine any Pentecostal preacher who would agree to marry such a couple.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,602 posts)
32. You are not the first atheist I have met (in person or online) who has extensive Biblical knowledge.
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:12 AM
Yesterday

I find it interesting that there are people who have studied and read the Bible in-depth and end up shunning religion completely. And I mean that as a positive comment.

elocs

(24,312 posts)
38. As a Christian, I studied the Bible deeply in order to bolster and defend my faith
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:34 AM
Yesterday

and came out the other side an atheist.
The last 2 years before I retired I worked at the Salvation Army as a custodian. In my interview I did mention a passage in Matthew. A month after I had been working I told my supervisor with whom I worked closely that I was an atheist (he is a strong Baptist). You could have knocked him over with a feather because based upon how I treated people there, the clients and homeless, he assumed I was a Christian. But what surprised me the most is that he respected my decision and promised he would never try and witness to me or to get me to come back into the fold, and he didn't.

As an atheist, I do not throw the baby out with the bathwater. There is much of what Jesus says and teaches that is admirable and would make a good philosophy. Even in the Old Testament there are things like a concern or for animals or an admonition to treat strangers well because the Jews were once strangers in a strange land themselves.

ChazInAz

(2,892 posts)
49. I'm one.
Sat May 17, 2025, 12:07 PM
Yesterday

I attended a well-known, very liberal Methodist university in central Illinois. Needless to say, religion classes were part of the curriculum, but with students of every faith (or none) from all over the world, there were some special courses.Two were my favorites: a history of Buddhism and an in-depth study of the Bible as a document. That latter was taught by a Rabbi and members of the Greek and Latin languages faculty. That sort of thing will turn anyone into an atheist or agnostic.

onethatcares

(16,822 posts)
4. "And when you pray"
Sat May 17, 2025, 09:07 AM
Yesterday

go into your closet"

They constantly forget the rest of the admonitions.

3catwoman3

(26,684 posts)
11. Along with the "Judge ye not..." admonition.
Sat May 17, 2025, 09:44 AM
Yesterday

And the whole Matthew 25:31-46 thing.

I always have to look up the 31-46 part as I am no biblical scholar. Not even close. I think this is one of the few sections worth remembering and acting on.

elocs

(24,312 posts)
46. As an atheist now, I could support a belief system that is based upon that section of Matthew.
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:54 AM
Yesterday

It's ironic how the denominations that are viewed by conservative denominations as being "liberal" are the ones today who are helping the homeless and the hungry the most.

calimary

(86,272 posts)
33. THAT'S a Scripture passage that I can never forget.
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:15 AM
Yesterday

Matthew 6:6-7 English Standard Version 2016 (ESV)

“But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.“

In other words, it’s NOT about showboating. One of my favorites.

elocs

(24,312 posts)
5. They don't know Jesus who taught against making a public show of your religiosity.
Sat May 17, 2025, 09:15 AM
Yesterday

But keeping quiet was a good choice because they also have freedom of speech as much as we dislike what they are saying. You overheard their conversation, they weren't preaching at you or confronting you.

Response to iscooterliberally (Reply #6)

cayugafalls

(5,811 posts)
9. Matthew 6:5
Sat May 17, 2025, 09:38 AM
Yesterday

“And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward.”

All they have is their vanity and their self-righteousness.

They do not know Jesus or what it means to be moral, compassionate and honest.



Iris

(16,398 posts)
12. Good lord. They hit all the talking points in one meal?
Sat May 17, 2025, 09:53 AM
Yesterday

These people are brainwashed.

hunter

(39,494 posts)
15. They don't have anything else to talk about...
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:16 AM
Yesterday

... the voices on the television, radio, internet, and their preachers fill their heads, displacing any original thought.

ms liberty

(10,204 posts)
18. The litter boxes thing would have sent me over the edge
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:31 AM
Yesterday

Because the litter boxes are for kids to pee/poop in during a lockdown. Lockdowns nowadays are usually for school shootings. But you can guarantee they're "gunz okay" 2A believers.

CTyankee

(66,174 posts)
19. Maybe shake your head and loudly whisper "Father, forgive them..."
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:34 AM
Yesterday

just after you pay your bill and leave.

stillcool

(33,814 posts)
57. Ellie Griffiths?
Sat May 17, 2025, 07:20 PM
17 hrs ago

I'd never heard that expression until I read the Ruth Galloway series. Now I'll never forget it.

Sharma Dreihund

(20 posts)
30. Matthew 7:12 or Leviticus 19:18
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:59 AM
Yesterday

You might try a call back prayer to the teachings of not just Jesus, but the Old Testament, too? “So in everything, do unto others what you would have them do unto you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.” Matthew 7:12 is easier to remember than the Leviticus verse because Matthew 7: 12 can be summed up by praying for all of us to remember The Golden Rule.

lastlib

(25,903 posts)
34. I would've reminded them that Jesus, Mary, and Joseph.....
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:23 AM
Yesterday

....were undocumented immigrants, crossed a border illiegally.

elocs

(24,312 posts)
48. But then they have their own free speech rights as well.
Sat May 17, 2025, 12:03 PM
Yesterday

It seems that their conversation was one overheard by the OP who was sitting close to them, not that they were preaching to the restaurant. If they had been eating quietly nearby and heard you talking about whatever it was that they seriously disagreed to hearing would it them be ok for them to call you out?
A simple suggestion which I have read would simply to be asked to be moved elsewhere if possible.

leftyladyfrommo

(19,761 posts)
37. I just ignore that stuff. It only makes them feel
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:34 AM
Yesterday

persecuted if you say anything. I used to work with a Pentacostal preacher and he was one of the meanest people I ever knew. Boy did he hate Catholics.

I got him. One morning I told him about the Sisters of Mercy here in KCMO. They were all medical people and they went out at night to houses where family members needed 24 hour care and spent the night so the family could sleep.

He had a severely disabled daughter that needed 24 hour care so he recognized what a wonderful service this was. He even
admitted that it was a really nice thing to do. He had the strangest look on his face.

Score one for me!

Nanjeanne

(6,086 posts)
40. Wow. That's quite a MAGA list for a breakfast
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:38 AM
Yesterday

outing with the family. You’d think they might have talked about sports or movies or gossip about friends! No way to start the day.

Brainfodder

(7,292 posts)
42. Wrapped up in their stupidity infused safety blanket. Woke, immigrants, & transgender, the trifecta of ignorance!
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:45 AM
Yesterday

Maybe we need to get a group of democrats together to go around informing these small groups of idiots, make it know that we are ready and able to kick their dumb brained sorry not sorry obvious dumb shit believing asses many times over?

One member of the crew has the bullhorn, and all have pepper spray and or better defensive weapons?

Walk through the WM and such in your area and have a heart to heart with every red hat, have a double sided page full of links to all the evidence and such, not leaving them empty handed.
Feeling up to it, blanket every windshield in the parking lot with a double-sided takedown of their own?

This is low tech and feasible.

ananda

(31,762 posts)
44. To riff off Will Rogers: Christianity aint what it used to be...
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:51 AM
Yesterday

but then it never was.

Jean Genie

(470 posts)
45. WWJT (What would Jesus think)
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:52 AM
Yesterday

Must be somewhat painful to be so arrogantly self-righteous. Or maybe not. I guess the
Golden Rule is not part of their theological belief system. I commend you, Duncanpup, for not hauling off and hitting them!

Evolve Dammit

(20,607 posts)
50. Sounds right. There is no middle ground with this shit. Deplorable was waaay too kind. n/t
Sat May 17, 2025, 07:06 PM
17 hrs ago

Tribetime

(6,557 posts)
52. The Pope is too woke.....Tell Jesus that one while you pray
Sat May 17, 2025, 07:11 PM
17 hrs ago

They know better than the Pope does

Hekate

(97,629 posts)
53. Public prayers over meals don't bother me. MAGAGOP politics bothers me. You&I probably agree there.
Sat May 17, 2025, 07:12 PM
17 hrs ago

marble falls

(65,390 posts)
54. I do make a point, if they are obviously too loud and long (it gives me the permission), to join in. I mean ...
Sat May 17, 2025, 07:13 PM
17 hrs ago

... why would they make a point of me hearing that sheep dip if they weren't inviting my input? I don't speak any louder than them. I make no obscene remarks. I stay on news and policy. I do it to people on phones in restaurants, too.

Tribetime

(6,557 posts)
63. Dear Lord May nobody shoot me in the back while
Sat May 17, 2025, 08:03 PM
16 hrs ago

I'm shooting somebody else in the front....Evil Roy Slade

Martin Eden

(14,298 posts)
66. They're in a cult which has nothing to do with Jesus
Sun May 18, 2025, 08:07 AM
4 hrs ago

Except to wear their religiosity on their sleeve as a badge of moral superiority.

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