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live love laugh

(15,314 posts)
Sat May 17, 2025, 03:56 AM Yesterday

Beto: "Biden failed this country in the most important job he had"

Last edited Sat May 17, 2025, 07:50 PM - Edit history (1)

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Beto who can’t even win a race himself has jumped on the blame Biden Bandwagon.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5303986-beto-o-rourke-criticizes-biden-relection-bid/

The growing anti-Biden chorus tells me Republicans are in trouble—especially after losing a series of elections recently.

I hope representatives call Republicans out for being the losers that they are so people see what they’re trying to do.

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Beto: "Biden failed this country in the most important job he had" (Original Post) live love laugh Yesterday OP
he has had his day creon Yesterday #1
Yeah, Beto's entitled to his opinion... even if it's a dumb one!! InAbLuEsTaTe 20 hrs ago #51
Beto creon 18 hrs ago #57
Beto should have never went there. Duncanpup Yesterday #2
Nope he shouldn't have! SheltieLover Yesterday #8
Yes, Beto just flushed any political aspirations down the terlet...assumin he even still had any before this. InAbLuEsTaTe 20 hrs ago #53
Beto was done long ago in Texas. His mouth blocks him. Melon 13 hrs ago #74
Yeah. Him and 160M-170M other Americans. RockRaven Yesterday #3
It's strange to me that so many people want to make it that simple EdmondDantes_ 21 hrs ago #45
The simpler things are the greater the chance Republicans are behind it. live love laugh 16 hrs ago #64
I like Beto..... Lovie777 Yesterday #4
I like and have BigMin28 Yesterday #5
Beto has the right to say this even though he's wrong MustLoveBeagles 12 hrs ago #77
He, and anyone who emulates him, is making a mistake. Oopsie Daisy Yesterday #6
Move over JustAnotherGen 3 hrs ago #105
If true, I have lost all respect for him SheltieLover Yesterday #7
Beto's most important job was beating Ted Cruz. And he failed. Walleye Yesterday #9
Really? I'm done with Beto. sinkingfeeling Yesterday #10
STFU, Beto. Itchinjim Yesterday #11
You beat me to it. Paladin Yesterday #13
Seriously!! InAbLuEsTaTe 20 hrs ago #52
Ha. Technically I agree with that statement but nauseated by Beto's counterproductive comments lostnfound Yesterday #12
Yep you are right - job #1 is to disable the fascists politically dwayneb Yesterday #14
Biden kind of had his hands full... vanlassie 14 hrs ago #68
Technically the non voters are the cause I reckon GusBob Yesterday #16
When was the last time a Democrat won a state-wide race in Texas? biocube Yesterday #15
Sounds like you have the inside scoop... live love laugh Yesterday #25
Biden ran at least twice before winning. BannonsLiver 20 hrs ago #49
WTF MorbidButterflyTat 12 hrs ago #81
I agree, besides Biden didn't win Texas either fujiyamasan 11 hrs ago #83
If Beto could actually win in Texas newdeal2 Yesterday #17
Beto lost by only 2.5 points in 2018 fujiyamasan 11 hrs ago #88
He still lost though which is all that really matters Meowmee 8 hrs ago #93
It's true Beto didn't win fujiyamasan 6 hrs ago #101
See! His "most important job" comment is same as "Why didn't Dems stop Republicans" Democrat blaming. betsuni Yesterday #18
. MorbidButterflyTat 12 hrs ago #80
Anti-Biden noise is to cover up Trump's clearly demented behavior. travelingthrulife Yesterday #19
Beto is dead to me now. Glad I'm not a Texan so don't have to consider him at ALL. lark Yesterday #20
Ditto SheltieLover Yesterday #26
Beto is not only a has-been, he is a never-was. n/t valleyrogue Yesterday #21
lol never was is funny 😁 Meowmee 8 hrs ago #95
I've always liked Beto and cheered him on peggysue2 Yesterday #22
Why didn't he say this two years ago? Jose Garcia Yesterday #23
Says the failed candidate. WhiteTara Yesterday #24
So Aviation Pro Yesterday #27
Bien said that was a big Mistake. Cha 10 hrs ago #91
Beto was right. LizBeth Yesterday #28
Who failed the country was the press and the so-called news industry in this country. They failed them in 2000 JohnSJ 23 hrs ago #31
. MorbidButterflyTat 12 hrs ago #79
You win with the media you have fujiyamasan 11 hrs ago #86
Obama won in 2008 in spite of the media. They pushed overtime trying to associate Obama as having JohnSJ 8 hrs ago #94
TY, JOhn... & too fucking late for Beto.. Joe Biden Already Took Cha 10 hrs ago #90
You are right Cha. JohnSJ 8 hrs ago #96
Indeed. BannonsLiver 20 hrs ago #48
I really wish a high profile Democrat had had the stones to challenge Biden in the primary - I had major concerns about Midwestern Democrat 19 hrs ago #54
Yes he is right fujiyamasan 2 hrs ago #106
It is way past due to stop patronizing these pseudo news outlets who are nothing more than yellow journalism JohnSJ Yesterday #29
Agree Meowmee 8 hrs ago #98
Biden might have to take Mountainguy 23 hrs ago #30
Biden might have to take one for the team? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 21 hrs ago #44
That's my point Mountainguy 19 hrs ago #56
That's BS MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #72
No Mountainguy 13 hrs ago #73
Very well stated fujiyamasan 11 hrs ago #87
Hey Beto NO Democrat would've won Ritabert 22 hrs ago #32
The fact that the Republican media NEVER reported Trump's admission is telling. live love laugh 22 hrs ago #34
They can't let the truth be known Ritabert 21 hrs ago #46
That's More Than a Little Delusional DrFunkenstein 13 hrs ago #75
It was fixed no matter how delusional it sounds. Ritabert 2 hrs ago #109
Bullshit spanone 22 hrs ago #33
No one is safe from the big bus. I supported Biden to the very end. He should have passed Autumn 22 hrs ago #35
Ditto ... and I agree. KPN 17 hrs ago #59
He didn't MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #71
There could have been a primary had Joe decided to serve only one term. Autumn 2 hrs ago #108
Senor 0 and 2 should feel free to grab a seat and shut the fuck up . . . . hatrack 22 hrs ago #36
Beto isn't the only Dem that 0 and 2 statistic fits. Autumn 22 hrs ago #37
And other Dems weren't running against the (arguably) most despised Senator in America hatrack 21 hrs ago #38
Four years, eight years. Excuses for some while others get none. Autumn 21 hrs ago #40
What? live love laugh 16 hrs ago #63
Short message for all the "It's not my fault that we lost" Biden-Bashers. usonian 21 hrs ago #39
Beto's insight might be valuable here, few have more experience with failure than him. tritsofme 21 hrs ago #41
Ouch!!!! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 21 hrs ago #43
Meanwhile the asshole who currently occupies the office is doing even worse Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 21 hrs ago #42
Reality bites. BannonsLiver 20 hrs ago #47
This won't help your "comeback" Beto mcar 20 hrs ago #50
Anyone who bashes Biden at this point can fuck right off Mysterian 19 hrs ago #55
What could possibly be gained by bashing Biden at this point? dlk 18 hrs ago #58
Indeed it does. Because everything B.See 16 hrs ago #65
Book sales MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #69
Yeah; Why would any Dem Jump on the Cha 9 hrs ago #92
So, going into the midterms Bettie 17 hrs ago #60
I was never on the Beto bandwagon. LuvLoogie 17 hrs ago #61
OMG! Fuck the turncoat! Clouds Passing 16 hrs ago #62
Biden didn't fail. Trump and Fox wouldn't shut the fuck up. Initech 15 hrs ago #66
Democrats are being questioned about President Biden MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #67
Bye Bye Beto. nt PufPuf23 14 hrs ago #70
Every Democrat when asked should say.. mvd 13 hrs ago #76
Oh Beto MustLoveBeagles 12 hrs ago #78
Message auto-removed Name removed 11 hrs ago #82
Uh Oh is right on!! Kind of late for you isn't it? GP6971 11 hrs ago #84
My, my, my k_buddy762 11 hrs ago #85
Whatever statewide position Beto might be thinking of running for in Texas DFW 10 hrs ago #89
Let them get it all out now so they can take it off the table next year. In It to Win It 8 hrs ago #97
Right?!?! Anyone bashing Biden next year im ignoring uponit7771 7 hrs ago #100
i hate this biden bashing. why the fuck is beto even talking about it? don't dems orleans 8 hrs ago #99
It's not what you say... Mike Nelson 5 hrs ago #102
"I'm relevant," sqeaked Beto! FSogol 4 hrs ago #103
Looking for a few more minutes JustAnotherGen 3 hrs ago #104
Biden's failure was to not groom Harris more to take his place NickB79 2 hrs ago #107

creon

(1,545 posts)
1. he has had his day
Sat May 17, 2025, 04:30 AM
Yesterday

beto had his 15 minutes offame.
he, today, is just a random person with an opinion.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(25,128 posts)
53. Yes, Beto just flushed any political aspirations down the terlet...assumin he even still had any before this.
Sat May 17, 2025, 03:34 PM
20 hrs ago

RockRaven

(17,242 posts)
3. Yeah. Him and 160M-170M other Americans.
Sat May 17, 2025, 04:31 AM
Yesterday

90M didn't vote, and 70-something-M voted for The Orange Degenerate.

There is plenty of blame to go around. Are we gonna name every one of those names, or just engage in this cult of personality/great man theory bullshit?

EdmondDantes_

(475 posts)
45. It's strange to me that so many people want to make it that simple
Sat May 17, 2025, 02:12 PM
21 hrs ago

It's not any one person's fault.

live love laugh

(15,314 posts)
64. The simpler things are the greater the chance Republicans are behind it.
Sat May 17, 2025, 06:53 PM
16 hrs ago

They specialize in “license plate “-sized ideas and language ….

“Cat ladies” … “fake news” …. “2nd Amendment rights” … “pro life” … “Biden’s fault” fits in nicely.

Lovie777

(18,464 posts)
4. I like Beto.....
Sat May 17, 2025, 04:50 AM
Yesterday

I like President Biden as well.

Democracy likes and not likes, 1st Amendment.

Corporate media is run by RWers and their goal is to distract from the true evils of democracy.

I think most people are waking up to the travesties of shithole musk republicans. The budget bill will do so much damage to the US.



BigMin28

(1,675 posts)
5. I like and have
Sat May 17, 2025, 06:05 AM
Yesterday

Voted for Beto. But you don't stab other Democrats in the back. We have repubs to do that. Being from Texas, Beto should know better.

MustLoveBeagles

(13,252 posts)
77. Beto has the right to say this even though he's wrong
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:52 PM
12 hrs ago

Having said that count me as a disappointed supporter 😔

Oopsie Daisy

(5,761 posts)
6. He, and anyone who emulates him, is making a mistake.
Sat May 17, 2025, 06:26 AM
Yesterday
>> Beto who can’t even win a race himself has jumped on the blame Biden Bandwagon.
That is a very important distinction. I'm glad you pointed it out. Sometimes the general public can be persuaded into believing that loud, boisterous, bandwagon jumping, grandstanding, showboating and the "blame-game" is an indicator of someone's previous success, or their experience and suitability for a job, or their viability as a future nominee. I'm not one of those persons though.

lostnfound

(16,965 posts)
12. Ha. Technically I agree with that statement but nauseated by Beto's counterproductive comments
Sat May 17, 2025, 07:33 AM
Yesterday

seems to be seeking attention while feeding a damaging distraction.

I love Biden but “Biden failed this country in the most important job he had” — he didn’t disempower trump in 2021. One way or another, job #1 was to disable the fascist politically.

dwayneb

(984 posts)
14. Yep you are right - job #1 is to disable the fascists politically
Sat May 17, 2025, 08:14 AM
Yesterday

Not only didn't Biden do that job, Democrats in general have failed to do that job, post-Obama.

We are at war. When one strategy fails, we have to be smart enough and insightful enough to come up with another strategy that works. First we have to admit that we have all failed in the primary task. If we can't do that, we will never improve.

vanlassie

(5,943 posts)
68. Biden kind of had his hands full...
Sat May 17, 2025, 09:10 PM
14 hrs ago

Every single minute. And he was doing the right things. Every day.
Let’s blame a DEM who had more free time, shall we? If we insist on blaming. Which I don’t.

GusBob

(7,900 posts)
16. Technically the non voters are the cause I reckon
Sat May 17, 2025, 08:50 AM
Yesterday

Don’t know if Biden failed to inspire them or not

If you go back further to the Russian interference of 2016, another POTUS might have failed to stop DT

And there is failure in not learning the lessons from that

But voters share the blame there too

biocube

(71 posts)
15. When was the last time a Democrat won a state-wide race in Texas?
Sat May 17, 2025, 08:43 AM
Yesterday

I believe you'd have to go back to the early 90s. I'm not a big fan of "you've never won an election, be quiet". Some Democrats face bigger challenges than others do. He certainly came a lot closer than Wendy Davis did.

Also, if you don't like what he says about Biden...get used to it. The 2028 race it's going to be an issue.

BannonsLiver

(19,113 posts)
49. Biden ran at least twice before winning.
Sat May 17, 2025, 03:03 PM
20 hrs ago

And his first 2 campaigns were catastrophes. The plagiarism deal in 1988 and the ill advised Obama comment in 2008. Third time was the charm, I guess.

fujiyamasan

(108 posts)
83. I agree, besides Biden didn't win Texas either
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:46 PM
11 hrs ago

A democrat has not won statewide in Texas since 1994!

Biden did perform relatively well there in 2020, losing by 5.5 points to Trump, but not nearly as well as Beto in 2018, who lost by 2.56. Granted Cruz was always less popular in Texas than Trump, but I think it sort of reinforces what you’re saying.

Beto also did much better than Biden in the border communities, and Harris did even worse. Democrats are hemorrhaging voters in those areas so maybe it’s worth listening to the only democrat that has almost won a statewide seat in Texas in 30 years. Not sure why people are becoming so emotional about this. Every democrat in both 2026 and 2028 will be running away from both Biden and Harris. That is unfortunately how politics works.

According to wiki, “On Election Day, Cruz defeated O'Rourke[7] by a margin just short of 215,000 votes, or 2.6 percent; the race was the closest U.S. Senate race in Texas since 1978.[8]”




newdeal2

(2,520 posts)
17. If Beto could actually win in Texas
Sat May 17, 2025, 09:37 AM
Yesterday

We would be in much better shape. So Beto failed his most important job.

See how easy the blame game is?

Meowmee

(9,126 posts)
93. He still lost though which is all that really matters
Sun May 18, 2025, 02:40 AM
8 hrs ago

Whereas B won the presidency even with losing Texas by a higher percentage. 😁

fujiyamasan

(108 posts)
101. It's true Beto didn't win
Sun May 18, 2025, 05:19 AM
6 hrs ago

If you look at the district and county maps in the state though, it’s getting worse. Harris performance in border communities was especially bad. Biden’s performance in those areas was also worse than Beto’s and Hillary’s.

Is this Biden’s fault necessarily? I’m not getting into that, but there was a steady decrease for democrats in those districts after Hillary in 2016. Beto’s looks like a high point. Those are key areas democrats will need to rebuild support if they plan on bring competitive in the state again. I think we need to admit that Biden’s border policies did not have support in those areas, and move from there.

Beto may or may not be the future of democratic politics. He may have peaked in 2018. But Biden is the past too, and the party is going to have to move forward.

betsuni

(27,895 posts)
18. See! His "most important job" comment is same as "Why didn't Dems stop Republicans" Democrat blaming.
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:19 AM
Yesterday

Pay no attention to voter suppression, vast right-wing media empire, media false equivalency and negativity when it comes to Democrats, unlimited funding from ideological nutty Mercers, Kochs, etc, automatic Christian evangelical vote, culture wars so important in getting those angry brainwashed white people to the polls in swing states, attacks from the Left that the Democratic Party is corrupt and controlled by billionaires with bribes and needs to be taken over (it has its own world of cynical lies demonizing Democrats, designed to suppress the vote), polarization so severe that the extremist Republican Party mostly functions as a war on Democrats and conning voters.

But no, everything's Democrats' fault. But she said on "The View" that she couldn't think of anything she'd do differently from Biden (the one being called FDR a while back). People are saying with straight faces that's why Harris lost.

travelingthrulife

(2,294 posts)
19. Anti-Biden noise is to cover up Trump's clearly demented behavior.
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:24 AM
Yesterday

Why do Democrats fall for this nonsense. They can see that Biden's record is stellar. Shooting themselves in the foot is not just for Republicans.

Meowmee

(9,126 posts)
95. lol never was is funny 😁
Sun May 18, 2025, 02:43 AM
8 hrs ago

I liked him at first and donated to him, but then I changed my mind and got a refund 😹
Is he in politics now? I guess he is considering running for something if he is making these statements, or just attention seeking?

peggysue2

(11,818 posts)
22. I've always liked Beto and cheered him on
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:48 AM
Yesterday

But in this case? He should sit down and bite his lip.

I will not support any Democratic candidate who jumps on the Biden-bashing train.

Stop it and stop adding to the right-wing's propaganda program.

JohnSJ

(98,608 posts)
31. Who failed the country was the press and the so-called news industry in this country. They failed them in 2000
Sat May 17, 2025, 12:15 PM
23 hrs ago

by painting Gore as boring, misrepresenting him with taunting jokes incorporated as news. For Kerry they took a paid political ad full of lies, and highlighted it as a news story, and essentially gave if a free paid ad constant airtime, for the swift boaters. For Hillary their constant sexist slurs and misrepresentations were some of the most disgusting examples of reporting in the modern age, and their blatant lie that the email investigation was reopened 11 days before the election directly put trump into the WH. No investigation was ever reopened, and they knew that, but still paraded every right wing pundit across their outlets propagating that lie 24/7, 11 days before the election.

And lest we forget, The illustrious media in this country are directly responsible for the deaths of at least a million people by the WMD LIE, they precipitated with our invasion of Iraq.

When was the last time you heard the media talk about where candidates are on the issues. They sure didn’t with Kerry, Hillary, and Biden, they were too busy focused on gotcha journalism.

Even this theme that “Biden was incompetent”, and make no mistake that is exactly what they are doing with this bullshit, effectively covers up the irreparable damage that trump and his thugs are doing to this country.

Just look at the incompetent people under the current administration that are in positions they have no business to be in?

No, this Biden is old and should have dropped out story with the media self congratulating themselves for presenting it as some sort of accomplishment that they should be praised for is garbage.

You will never hear them bring up how they dropped the ball with the WMD lie in Iraq, and how they have completely dropped the ball by their failure to cover trump and his administration. In fact they have normalized it.

The Matt Lauer interviews with Hillary and trump demonstrated just how bad they were. Lauer let trump ramble on and on with every softball question uninterrupted without follow-up, while with Hillary he wouldn’t even give her a chance to answer a question without interrupting her during her answer. It was a disgrace, and the media self congratulating themselves on such a “wonderful performance” was sickening. Not surprisingly, Lauer was eventually fired for sexual harassment, and Andrew Lack followed for his cover up of the abuses that occurred when he was head at NBC.

The press that covered Joe McCarthy, the Viet Nam war, Watergate, have been missing in action for a long time, and as demonstrated by their current obsessions, they still are.



fujiyamasan

(108 posts)
86. You win with the media you have
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:58 PM
11 hrs ago

Obama won in 2008 and 2012. Same media that blew it with WMDs. Biden won in 2020 and with the most votes in US history. Same media that blew butteremails out of proportion.

Using the “media” as an excuse won’t take the party far. Traditional print and broadcast media are increasingly becoming less relevant.

Harris raised plenty of money too. But there’s an entire ecosystem of that democrats are losing out on. There are demographics democrats may be at a loss with for another generation if they don’t act fast.

JohnSJ

(98,608 posts)
94. Obama won in 2008 in spite of the media. They pushed overtime trying to associate Obama as having
Sun May 18, 2025, 02:43 AM
8 hrs ago

a close relationship with weather underground radical Ayers, and in case you forgot, they went into a frenzy trying to paint Obama as a radical leftist because of the Rev Wright.

What helped president Obama the most in 2008 was the economic implosion that occurred under bush, and mccain choosing palin as his VP. In fact 25% of the population believed that President Obama wasn't a citizen, and was a Muslim with the help of much of the media, especially fox news which has the highest viewership of all that cable/satellite news outlets.

Presidents are NOT elected by popular vote, but by the electoral college, and it is the swing states that determine it, and because of that, and nixon's southern strategy our elections in modern times have been very close by electoral college standards. 2008 was an exception, but that was because of the economic implosion that occurred under bush.

As for Biden's 2020 term, it was a very close election, and that was in spite of trump's mishandling of the pandemic, and the economic mess he left the country in.

The disrespect Biden was afforded his term as President by the press was disgusting, and that was through his entire term. Jake tapper's foaming at the mouth rant against Biden when he was removing America from Afghanistan after the terrorist attack against are troops was probably the most blatant personal disdain against a president that I have seen a so-called reporter exhibit.

As for your assessment that "there’s an entire ecosystem of that democrats are losing out on. There are demographics democrats may be at a loss with for another generation if they don’t act fast."

Sorry, but that train has left the station. 2000, 2016, and 2024 sealed that one. The Supreme Court is gone for at LEAST a generation. Nothing will change that. Trump or one of his thugs will be in control for at least the next four years. Nothing will change that. That is what happens when all the branches of government is controlled by a draconian regime.

Everyone should have known what the stakes were, but in spite of that someone who tried to overthrow the government, the country elected, and the country will deservedly pay the price for their stupidity for a long time.

Labor split the vote, Latino's split the vote, women didn't come out in the numbers anticipated, and the middle east protesters, especially in those critical swing states, even though trump made it clear what he was going to do, refused to vote for Harris. Everyone of those demographics are going to pay a heavy price for their foolishness, and of course the rest of us will be dragged along for the ride.

Even if we were fortunate enough to win both houses of congress in the midterms, which isn't likely for the Senate, there is no way we can get rid of trump. The votes for impeachment just aren't there.

The damage that can be done in the next four years is incalculable.

When you have billionaire owners of media outlets actively involved editorial content, and censorship if they don't like what is presented, we are probably facing the greatest peril to our democracy since WWII.

The fact that trump won in 2024 in spite of january 6th, makes 2028 very uncertain.







Cha

(310,723 posts)
90. TY, JOhn... & too fucking late for Beto.. Joe Biden Already Took
Sun May 18, 2025, 01:26 AM
10 hrs ago

Responsibility.. so Beto is just Piling on with the M$$$M.

And anyone who wants to join them.

Excellent post on the Fascist Enabling Media.

54. I really wish a high profile Democrat had had the stones to challenge Biden in the primary - I had major concerns about
Sat May 17, 2025, 03:40 PM
19 hrs ago

the inexplicably somnambulistic nature of the Biden '24 campaign and a legit primary challenge might have exposed the issues in 2023 rather than having them spectacularly blow up in the party's face at the end of June 2024.

fujiyamasan

(108 posts)
106. Yes he is right
Sun May 18, 2025, 08:48 AM
2 hrs ago

And over the next few days more democrats will likely say the same thing with the release of Tapper’s book.

JohnSJ

(98,608 posts)
29. It is way past due to stop patronizing these pseudo news outlets who are nothing more than yellow journalism
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:29 AM
Yesterday

rags and outlet.

They exist as long as people give them the attention they crave.

All they are is exploiters of garbage, and far too many Democrats play their game.

It is way past due to tell them to fuck off.

Why even entertain the question? Biden is not president, a sociopath who tried to overthrow the government is, and yet they portray as what is happening is business as usual. It isn’t, and the press haven’t down their job for quite sometime now. Stop feeding the rats. This garbage will end the sooner people focus on now, instead of what ifs.



Meowmee

(9,126 posts)
98. Agree
Sun May 18, 2025, 02:54 AM
8 hrs ago

I blame the press/media and the idiot not voters and switch to psycho voters the most perhaps... mistakes were made... but trashing B at this point is beyond crazy imo... It would have been psycho 2 if he had not won and imagine where we would be now if that had happened.

Ultimately I blame the crazy system that allowed a psychopath to run for office not once but 3 times, and which also has no way to remove a psychopath from office quickly and easily.

Mountainguy

(1,857 posts)
30. Biden might have to take
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:56 AM
23 hrs ago

One for the team.

He isn't running for anything again and if Democrats find it useful to do this stuff then that's part of it. It's a play in areas where Biden underperformed. Don't like it, but winning is the name of the game.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(123,053 posts)
44. Biden might have to take one for the team?
Sat May 17, 2025, 02:10 PM
21 hrs ago

Elaborate please. It's doubtful he's going to run again.

Mountainguy

(1,857 posts)
56. That's my point
Sat May 17, 2025, 03:55 PM
19 hrs ago

If democrats who are running find it useful to create space and put some blame on him, he's going to have to absorb that.

Biden was, and remains, unpopular. That hurt Kamala too. The "I don't disagree with anything" ad was run over and over and over in the swing states, and it was effective.

Biden isn't running for anything again, ever. His popularity isn't important anymore and nobody who is running needs to defend him, and he's useful to put blame on if they need to.

It's politics.

fujiyamasan

(108 posts)
87. Very well stated
Sun May 18, 2025, 12:08 AM
11 hrs ago

Politics is a nasty and brutal game. Biden’s legacy may grow in time like Grant, LBJ, or Carter but for now it will be tied in most circles to his age, that debate and Trump’s return to power.

Well before Biden announced his reelection campaign, polls among democrats showed very little enthusiasm.

Biden obviously has no political future and he should enjoy his retirement after a long career of public service.

Ritabert

(1,063 posts)
32. Hey Beto NO Democrat would've won
Sat May 17, 2025, 12:57 PM
22 hrs ago

The fix was in. Trump admitted it in the Pennsylvania win. Apparently Elmo helped secure the vote.

DrFunkenstein

(8,771 posts)
75. That's More Than a Little Delusional
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:23 PM
13 hrs ago

Trump's approval rating was underwater in the months going into the election. He was there for the taking. Whether Kamala was a flawed candidate, or she could have pulled further ahead if Biden exited earlier will always be a matter of speculation.

But there's no point in conspiracy theories. The Electoral College, voter suppression, and failed journalism are more than enough without worrying about "the fix." Add to that the depressingly high level of misogyny in this country and you've got more than enough to chew on.

Ritabert

(1,063 posts)
109. It was fixed no matter how delusional it sounds.
Sun May 18, 2025, 09:19 AM
2 hrs ago

Do you think they're incapable of rigging all the swing states? They've been perfecting it since Florida 2000.

Autumn

(47,809 posts)
35. No one is safe from the big bus. I supported Biden to the very end. He should have passed
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:26 PM
22 hrs ago

the torch and not gone for the second term.

Autumn

(47,809 posts)
108. There could have been a primary had Joe decided to serve only one term.
Sun May 18, 2025, 09:18 AM
2 hrs ago

The choice of a new president when the incumbent isn't running does not automaticly go to the VP. No one has amnesia, it's called a choice.

hatrack

(62,449 posts)
38. And other Dems weren't running against the (arguably) most despised Senator in America
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:37 PM
21 hrs ago

But sure, let's set aside the shambling shit-show that's actually happening right now and the cavalcade of horrors that the future likely holds.

Because what better time than during an ongoing constitutional crisis, while standing in the path of a tsunami of lies and illegality and corruption, to turn our laser-like focus to the events of what shoulda woulda coulda happened three or four years ago, right?

Right?

usonian

(17,647 posts)
39. Short message for all the "It's not my fault that we lost" Biden-Bashers.
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:49 PM
21 hrs ago



1. You're projecting, and projecting your weaknesses, failures and fears onto the kindest person imaginable, and
2. You're echoing bullshit right-wing messaging that would get you banned from DU.

This is so maga and you don't even know it.
Well, you learned it right here.

Longer version here.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20320851

Why not go after a senile, deranged and lunatic spray-painted Shitler?
You're all small, mean, self-focused chickenshit fools.
You're the big kid who beat up the little kids in school.



Repost of
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220320906

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(123,053 posts)
42. Meanwhile the asshole who currently occupies the office is doing even worse
Sat May 17, 2025, 02:05 PM
21 hrs ago

But let's keep fighting yesterday's battle.

dlk

(12,620 posts)
58. What could possibly be gained by bashing Biden at this point?
Sat May 17, 2025, 05:34 PM
18 hrs ago

Especially, when he accomplished so much. It makes absolutely no sense and looks extremely petty, and small.

B.See

(5,446 posts)
65. Indeed it does. Because everything
Sat May 17, 2025, 07:30 PM
16 hrs ago

Biden did was for America, democracy, and more importantly, on behalf of the PEOPLE. INCLUDING running again, because of the threat of a fascist state under Trump... as was his decision to withdraw.

President Biden accomplished many great things for which he's gotten little credit. He's an honourable man.

Which, btw, is more than I can say for perhaps a FEW mfkrs.

Cha

(310,723 posts)
92. Yeah; Why would any Dem Jump on the
Sun May 18, 2025, 01:43 AM
9 hrs ago

Maga Media Bandwagon to Crush Joe Biden Further into the Ground..

And Don't Talk about All the Good he did for America and her People?



https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220324436

Bettie

(18,278 posts)
60. So, going into the midterms
Sat May 17, 2025, 06:12 PM
17 hrs ago

everyone is just going to drive another metaphorical knife into Biden's back rather than talking about any sort of vision or plan?

Sounds great...super way to win...

LuvLoogie

(8,018 posts)
61. I was never on the Beto bandwagon.
Sat May 17, 2025, 06:29 PM
17 hrs ago

This is like the political twink death of Beto Roarke.

That's some sorry ass shit.

Initech

(104,814 posts)
66. Biden didn't fail. Trump and Fox wouldn't shut the fuck up.
Sat May 17, 2025, 07:43 PM
15 hrs ago

We're in this mess because of them.

MorbidButterflyTat

(2,975 posts)
67. Democrats are being questioned about President Biden
Sat May 17, 2025, 09:05 PM
14 hrs ago

in order to hype idiots' book sales.

“'We might very well lose the greatest country that this world has ever known. And it might be in part because of the decision that Biden and those around him made to run for reelection,' the Texas Democrat (Beto) added."

VP Harris was on the Dem ballot.

President Biden will not be responsible if we "...lose the greatest country that this world has ever known..."

Damn, I'm so sick of Democrats being blamed for MAGAt bullshit! Especially by other supposed Democrats!

mvd

(65,633 posts)
76. Every Democrat when asked should say..
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:31 PM
13 hrs ago

I’m focused on the disaster in the WH - the piling on has to stop. Of course our media even tries to normalize this Trump term. Don’t help them distract.

Response to live love laugh (Original post)

DFW

(57,988 posts)
89. Whatever statewide position Beto might be thinking of running for in Texas
Sun May 18, 2025, 01:13 AM
10 hrs ago

He might be well-advised to wait a few years before making the attempt.

If anyone had the chance to stop him from expressing that sentiment publicly, and didn’t, they didn’t do him any favors.

In It to Win It

(10,572 posts)
97. Let them get it all out now so they can take it off the table next year.
Sun May 18, 2025, 02:48 AM
8 hrs ago

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orleans

(35,999 posts)
99. i hate this biden bashing. why the fuck is beto even talking about it? don't dems
Sun May 18, 2025, 03:26 AM
8 hrs ago

have enuf to focus on without doing this? isn't trump & musk enuf?

Mike Nelson

(10,572 posts)
102. It's not what you say...
Sun May 18, 2025, 06:23 AM
5 hrs ago

... it's how you say something. I could say the same thing as, "In hindsight, I agree President Biden should have decided not to run for re-election much earlier." A politician who says this as "Biden failed this country..." is communicating something different. There are a lot of people doing this, now, while others are "looking forward, not backward." I wonder if their staff and polling people think the "Biden failed" side helps? Instead, I would talk about the deranged Crooked Donald complaining to the Murdering Prince of Saudi Arabia about "rigged" elections in the USA.

NickB79

(19,908 posts)
107. Biden's failure was to not groom Harris more to take his place
Sun May 18, 2025, 08:50 AM
2 hrs ago

Sorry, I love what he did as President, and he was an excellent one.

But......

Respectfully, he should have declared himself a one-term President from the start of his term and given Harris room to run, room to make more of a name for herself with big decisions. Her presence was too muted as VP, and that really hurt her appeal last year.

We need another candidate with the energy and vitality of Obama if we want to win again. Harris was close, but never really had her moment to shine before the chaos of the 2024 election cycle.

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