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A GenZ activist-politician, discusses the path for Democrats to reclaim working class. (Original Post) egbertowillies Yesterday OP
The working class not voting for Harris because they felt ignored while the fascists promised to tear them a new asshole ImNotGod Yesterday #1
At a certain point, people will lose hope that things will ever improve for them... Lancero Yesterday #2
so are those same young ones willing to take care of their parents and grandparents? Skittles Yesterday #3
When they're chanting "Fuck the Boomers!", I'd think the answer to your question would be self-apparent. Lancero 23 hrs ago #7
it's not just Trump humpers who would be hurt Skittles 20 hrs ago #8
Sure, but that isn't exactly the point. The younger generation is more likely in general... Lancero 16 hrs ago #11
Fox News and hate radio created this anger. yardwork 16 hrs ago #14
The more pessimistic, the more likely to vote Republican, third party, or not vote. betsuni 23 hrs ago #6
it is indeed one sick culture Skittles 9 hrs ago #16
It makes no sense at all. Democrats-ignore-working-class is repeated over and over and over betsuni 23 hrs ago #4
I am so, SO sick of it Skittles 9 hrs ago #17
Hard to See Progressives Like AOC Appearing on Joe Rogan... TomCADem 23 hrs ago #5
She said she wouldn't change anything Biden did Renew Deal 17 hrs ago #9
we SHOULDN'T GO BACK Skittles 9 hrs ago #18
I cheered on that statement Renew Deal 4 hrs ago #19
MAGA is mostly while male cowards Skittles 4 hrs ago #20
We must be careful Tickle 3 hrs ago #21
Cadet Bonespurs is ITCHING for martial law Skittles 3 hrs ago #22
LOL!!!! valleyrogue 17 hrs ago #10
We can win if we can get a pluariaty of the white female vote Kaleva 16 hrs ago #13
Trump won Missouri by 18 points, mandatory sick leave and higher minimum wage won by 8 biocube 16 hrs ago #12
Yup RJ-MacReady 16 hrs ago #15

ImNotGod

(582 posts)
1. The working class not voting for Harris because they felt ignored while the fascists promised to tear them a new asshole
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 01:39 AM
Yesterday

just doesn't make sense to me and never will.

Lancero

(3,167 posts)
2. At a certain point, people will lose hope that things will ever improve for them...
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 01:44 AM
Yesterday

It's why a lot of people - Younger generations especially - on social media are chanting "Fuck Boomers and their stock market!" right now. A lot of people have abandoned hope, and embraced revenge.

Skittles

(163,131 posts)
3. so are those same young ones willing to take care of their parents and grandparents?
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:02 AM
Yesterday

because that would be next

Lancero

(3,167 posts)
7. When they're chanting "Fuck the Boomers!", I'd think the answer to your question would be self-apparent.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:06 AM
23 hrs ago

I've got a few friends who have cut ties with the parents due to their political alignment, so... Something tells me that the younger generations are perfectly content to let their elders enjoy the fruits of the world they built.

Lancero

(3,167 posts)
11. Sure, but that isn't exactly the point. The younger generation is more likely in general...
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 09:22 AM
16 hrs ago

To be willing to cut off their elderly relations, for anything.

Cutting people off for their political ideology - Something that many people here talk about doing rather often - is just the easiest to point to example.

And boy, it's an example that we can very easily justify. They're Republicans, Trump supporters. They deserve to be cut off. They deserve to be punished. And when they claim that they're suffering? To bad, so sad, they deserve it.

The problem though? The people who are cheering on the stock market crash, and the pain and suffering it will cause Boomers? They've justified it too. They stole our future. We can't afford houses because of them. They ruined the environment. *Insert the unending list of grievances the younger generations have with Boomers here* They deserve to be punished. And when they claim that they're going to be suffering? To bad, so sad, they deserve it.

It doesn't matter if people think their reasons for cutting someone off are justified. What matters is that the person doing the cutting has justified the choice to themselves.


yardwork

(66,055 posts)
14. Fox News and hate radio created this anger.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 09:57 AM
16 hrs ago

Now it's all over the internet too.

I remember my dad started listening to AM radio talk shows back in the 90s. He changed from being a moderately progressive mostly-Democrat to someone unrecognizable. He'd never been racist and suddenly he was saying terrible things. Also, I noticed the inter generational anger. He was in his 50s but suddenly it was "the selfish complaining old people" and "the lazy clueless young people."

It's been 40 years of this propaganda and it worked. It's turned us against one another and against the world.

betsuni

(27,701 posts)
6. The more pessimistic, the more likely to vote Republican, third party, or not vote.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:21 AM
23 hrs ago

Work them up to be cynical and hopeless. Right-wing wins! Emotion over thinking.

betsuni

(27,701 posts)
4. It makes no sense at all. Democrats-ignore-working-class is repeated over and over and over
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:16 AM
23 hrs ago

until everyone repeats it as if it's true. It's not true. If it were true they could show evidence, but they can't. All words words words.

Much effort to get people not to notice actual policies, history, reality. As if words are more important than deeds. Trump/Republicans say all the right words, fabulous messaging, the best promises, oh they're so concerned about the working class and carefully listen and pay attention to them, it's the Ignoring Democrats ruining everything with all their elite wrong words.

Such a stupid story.

Skittles

(163,131 posts)
17. I am so, SO sick of it
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 04:22 PM
9 hrs ago

we're always told we need to "understand" Trump voters - I understand them all too well which is why I fucking DESPISE them

TomCADem

(17,817 posts)
5. Hard to See Progressives Like AOC Appearing on Joe Rogan...
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:21 AM
23 hrs ago

… to appeal to young male voters who Trump and Vance catered to by convincing them that it was’n’t folks like them, but immigrants and woke people like Harris are taking all the opportunities. I remember looking up MMA videos, and you would inevitably get some right wing leaning videos recommended. But hey, if some progressive thinks he has a magic message that will overcome the social media giant algorithms, then maybe we are saved.

Renew Deal

(83,725 posts)
9. She said she wouldn't change anything Biden did
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 08:43 AM
17 hrs ago

And said we’re not going back when people were unhappy about the current state.

Skittles

(163,131 posts)
18. we SHOULDN'T GO BACK
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 04:23 PM
9 hrs ago

GOING BACKWARDS is what is happening right now

well, FAFO

BETTER WOKE THAN BROKE

Renew Deal

(83,725 posts)
19. I cheered on that statement
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 09:07 PM
4 hrs ago

But the election post-mortens showed that voters interpreted it differently. They were unhappy and wanted change. I think that's why the "dictator" numbers were so high with the younger groups. They want to see anything other than stagnation happen.

I also think the "not going back"/MAGA stuff is interpreted differently by different people. MAGA wants to go back to a time that didn't really exist, and the conditions that created that non-existent time also don't exist currently. The "not going back" crowd, of which I was a member, were thinking about a time before Roe and before the civil rights act.

The MAGA crowd may get their wish. They are creating 1930 all over again. If that's the case, there are 15 painful years to go.

Skittles

(163,131 posts)
20. MAGA is mostly while male cowards
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 09:39 PM
4 hrs ago

who CANNOT HANDLE change

well FAFO, FUCK THEM, they're gonna find out what REAL ANGER truly means

Skittles

(163,131 posts)
22. Cadet Bonespurs is ITCHING for martial law
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 11:00 PM
3 hrs ago

but we cannot temper our opposition to FASCISM because we fear FASCISM

valleyrogue

(1,949 posts)
10. LOL!!!!
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 08:48 AM
17 hrs ago

He doesn't know what he is talking about. Go after nonvoters, not sexist, racist white males. They are lost.

Working class is a misnomer in the US. What people mean are blue collar workers. Most cannot be reasoned with because they are made up of sexist, racist white males. MRAs are a real problem.

Kaleva

(39,116 posts)
13. We can win if we can get a pluariaty of the white female vote
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 09:50 AM
16 hrs ago

If Trump and Maga ever lose that, then it's over for them

biocube

(44 posts)
12. Trump won Missouri by 18 points, mandatory sick leave and higher minimum wage won by 8
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 09:43 AM
16 hrs ago

I live in a swing state and got plenty of ads from both campaigns and I never saw Kamala ad that advocated for higher wages or paid sick or family leave. It's very obvious the plan was to go after disaffected Republicans instead of policies accepted by a large majority of Americans. Democrats are running campaigns like it's 2004.

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