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douglas9

(4,690 posts)
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 04:10 PM 22 hrs ago

Trump's new tariff math looks a lot like ChatGPT's

When President Donald Trump began yesterday’s announcement of the White House’s latest trade policy brandishing a novelty-sized cardboard sign labeled “Reciprocal Tariffs,” the immediate and nearly unanimous response was bafflement. Trump slapped a 10 percent baseline tariff on all imports into the US, including from uninhabited islands, plus absurdly high rates on specific countries, supposedly based on “tariffs charged to the USA” — which didn’t match up to other, non-cardboard-sign-based estimates. Stock markets have plummeted and consumers are facing down sharp price hikes on potentially almost everything they buy.

Where did these numbers come from? Apparently, an oversimplified calculation that several major AI chatbots happen to recommend.

Economist James Surowiecki quickly reverse-engineered a possible explanation for the tariff pricing. He found you could recreate each of the White House’s numbers by simply taking a given country’s trade deficit with the US and dividing it by their total exports to the US. Halve that number, and you get a ready-to-use “discounted reciprocal tariff.” The White House objected to this claim and published the formula it says that it used, but as Politico points out, the formula looks like a dressed-up version of Surowiecki’s method.

In case you weren’t sure, Surowiecki calls this approach “extraordinary nonsense.” So why did Trump’s team use it? Well, like plenty of people who’ve realized their homework is due in three hours’ time, it seems like they may have been tempted by AI.

https://www.theverge.com/news/642620/trump-tariffs-formula-ai-chatgpt-gemini-claude-grok

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Trump's new tariff math looks a lot like ChatGPT's (Original Post) douglas9 22 hrs ago OP
The tariffs don't seem to have anything to do with economics. Irish_Dem 22 hrs ago #1
There is zero academic or intellectual effort given by this administration... EarthFirst 22 hrs ago #2
The imcompetence of this circus should make it abundantly clear that this is EXACTLY what happened here. Karasu 15 hrs ago #3

Irish_Dem

(67,236 posts)
1. The tariffs don't seem to have anything to do with economics.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 04:22 PM
22 hrs ago

It is about power, control, punishment, extortion, Trump getting very rich personally.

EarthFirst

(3,580 posts)
2. There is zero academic or intellectual effort given by this administration...
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 04:29 PM
22 hrs ago

They aren’t interested in the work; they in this for the narcissist ego stroke and financial self-preservation.

This hypotheses doesn’t surprise me…

Karasu

(865 posts)
3. The imcompetence of this circus should make it abundantly clear that this is EXACTLY what happened here.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 11:34 PM
15 hrs ago

It's so stupid that it's obviously true, considering the sheer stupidity of this country in this timeline.

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