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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJust saw where Mark Cuban is telling people
to stock up on consumables right now because prices will really go up.
He's usually right.

SheltieLover
(65,772 posts)
lapfog_1
(30,749 posts)have no place to store a years worth of toilet paper, canned food, etc.
generalbetrayus
(824 posts)DENVERPOPS
(11,601 posts)But the second Trump announced the increases, the grocery stores etc will automatically be pricing their current inventories as the greater expected prices to make additional profits immediately...........
This will be far worse than Y2K hoarding, or Covid hoarding.................
Today, Worldwide, people are dumping their U.S. investments in the stock market.
Putin is ecstatic.................
WTF could Trump, The Republicans in the Senate and House, and U.S. Corporations be thinking to be doing this???????
vapor2
(2,024 posts)DENVERPOPS
(11,601 posts)House and Senate politicians have finally figured out that any future presidential elections, and congressional elections will be rigged 100%, and they better be "With" Trump or suffer the consequences like Cheney and others, and get primaried and obliterated.....
WASF
LisaM
(29,088 posts)I try to get this across to people who are such big proponents of density. We don't have room for a year's worth of food or household products. We can't buy a side of beef and keep it in a freezer. We can't even go in the backyard to relax or hang out with friends when it's too expensive to go out because we don't have yards. We can't grow our own food.
I hate living in an apartment but see no way of getting out of it in the expensive city where I live. We don't even have a second bedroom.
Keepthesoulalive
(1,134 posts)Space under a bed for cans of tuna and or salmon . Corner of the closet for beans in cans and a case of water. Canned pineapple holds well. A small shelf for coffee and sugar also milk in a canister. None of this is easy or pleasant but no one is going to take care of us , lets just try to survive this madman.
True Blue American
(18,479 posts)Were stocked up this week. I think Trump just shot his wad. I couldp]o for years without buying clothes.😁 that is good.
The news keeps talking about how many jobs were were created. The Tariffs have not taken effect yet!
Whee, Vietnam wants to cut their tariff to zero. Isnt that where the Golden gym shoes are made? Whee!
LisaM
(29,088 posts)Which we dearly need. We are crammed in as it is.
Sometimes I don't think all DUers get how many of us live. And it's getting worse as they throw up thousands more cheap, smaller apartments.
ReRe
(11,486 posts)


Lovie777
(17,664 posts)the cruelty of this administration is astounding.
ReRe
(11,486 posts)Where did you read that? A friend? Their actual monthly Social Security check did not come?
Wednesdays
(20,450 posts)
jmbar2
(6,756 posts)multigraincracker
(35,295 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(19,648 posts)multigraincracker
(35,295 posts)Yet humans always found a way.
nilram
(3,134 posts)So there's a bright side.
True Blue American
(18,479 posts)To cover that.
Keepthesoulalive
(1,134 posts)You buy enough to get by weekly or monthly. Dont buy a years supply of something you probably wouldnt want to eat. Dehydrated food is not always the best tasting or the healthiest. Do what you can and help others in need if you can.
OrlandoDem2
(2,666 posts)Like preparing for a hurricane?
I really dont know but I fear for our future.
herding cats
(19,668 posts)Food, cleaning supplies (personal and household), toilet paper, office supplies, etc.
I see no way to store enough consumable items to offset this lunacy, but if you can stock up on things you know you'll be using it will save you some money.
Xavier Breath
(5,457 posts)
herding cats
(19,668 posts)They said he was crazy....but was he just ahead of all this?
kimbutgar
(24,680 posts)I also brought tissue and honey (read a month ago about the bee die off)
multigraincracker
(35,295 posts)Captain Zero
(7,793 posts)They had some for when they had visitors or guests. They would put it out then.
They got married during the depression, so their go-to was old washcloths and hot water.
They did that from the depression until they died in 1980s. How much money did they save? They bought everything with cash including an Edsel in the 1950s. They took a lot of Florida vacations too.
kimbutgar
(24,680 posts)But wow on that story!
Raftergirl
(1,647 posts)the Depression - even though because of my grandfathers business (heating fuel) they werent affected nearly as much as most people.
When she died in 1972, I was with one of my Aunts when we were cleaning out her Florida house of all the extra goods she had hoarded. If something was on sale, she bought copious amounts of it. So, toilet paper must have been on sale years before and she bought 100s of rolls. One whole closet was filled with just tp.
When we began cleaning it out the rolls cardboard had all disintegrated and the paper was partially disintegrated, too.
My oldest aunt followed in my grandmothers footsteps. I needed something from her pantry once and saw she had 100s of boxes of lime green yellow and the price was $0.10/box. She also had hallways lined with tp and paper towels and basements filled with 100s of can goods and especially bags of eggs noodles that had to be 10 years old. I decided then and there never to eat anything she made for family holiday dinners.
She also hoarded houses and when she died had 4. Her only daughter had to clean out all of them before selling them after she died. It took her 2 years.
She was a millionaire many times over. If it wasnt on sale she wouldnt buy it. Or pay for things like information, when that was a thing - so she had every city/towns phone book in Connecticut so she wouldnt have to pay for information. They were stacked in piles all over her house(s).
TexasBushwhacker
(20,868 posts)They don't last FOREVER. I once had a housemate who grew up in communist Romania. They often went without things. So he would stock up on canned food, then buy fresh food every week. He'd been doing this for years, so the pantries and kitchen cabinets were full to bursting.
There wasn't much room for my food, so I asked him before he went on vacation if I could throw away expired food. He said he had to be there to "approve" any disposal. If you want to stock up on essentials, that's fine, but you need to rotate your "inventory" and use stuff. Otherwise it just goes bad and it's a waste of money. Even bottled water has a "best used by" date.
ReRe
(11,486 posts)my dad kept a giant box of TP in the garage. I think he ran out of TP at some time in his past. He never told us why.
And that was 60 yrs ago.
Tickle
(3,808 posts)Don't panic, it'll make things worse. If someone grabs all the toilet paper out of fear, what are the rest of the bums going to do?
I agree we should always be prepared for anything. Get a generator, have a 5 or 10 gallon of gas on hand. We're probably going to get a storm soon enough and we'll be without power. I canned some foods, and buy the big bags of rice, and flour. Don't panic and run to the store to buy whatever is on the shelves, that hurts the person who can't buy in bulk.
AllaN01Bear
(24,544 posts)sage advice.
herding cats
(19,668 posts)But, don't you kind of wish you'd have had some extra TP when the big Covid shortage hit? I admit I wished I'd have bought the 24 pack instead of the 6 pack the last time I shopped and it was in stock pre lockdown. I now keep a 24 pack on a shelf in the garage. Not nearly as interesting as my uncles wall-o-TP, but still similar.
I had a grandmother who lived through both the depression and WWII rationing. Her hoard items were sugar, coffee and (for some weird reason which I've never understood) empty plastic margarine tubs.
AllaN01Bear
(24,544 posts)i can. good storage conatiners .
herding cats
(19,668 posts)My normal shop, but to be fair I already have a decent hoard for bad weather season prep.
AllaN01Bear
(24,544 posts)i did that during covid and the 2009 crash. even though i dont agree with them, i do agree with the mormans idear having of enough spaces ffor a year of food. i live in a 620 square foot apartment and cant even cocive shopping for a month.
True Blue American
(18,479 posts)For lunch I had Asparagus, carrots, fresh corn on the cob and cherry tomatoes.
Tickle
(3,808 posts)Did you ever walk in to a grocery store and the shelves are empty, because a Storm is coming? That's what this feels like to me. I wish everyone would stay calm and remember you are not alone. We all need to share what we have to help others
herding cats
(19,668 posts)Except I expect this is going to be a very long, drawn out storm. No amount of hoarded TP will ease the economic impact we're all about to endure.
Tickle
(3,808 posts)Everyday I practice staying calm and not over thinking anything. Everyday it gets harder and harder to follow what I preach.
wordstroken
(935 posts)
"Shortages" don't last long in free economies. Think of it as a temporary lag in supply to respond to demand. Suppliers will be on the way to meet the need-they just aren't there yet. The first into the breech will probably charge more, but then once the supply line is reestablished, prices will drop.
That's how complex adaptive systems work.
mitch96
(15,092 posts)GusBob
(7,821 posts)that tariffs would be used as an excuse. (Like price gouging after a hurricane)
he mentioned soap and toothpaste as an example
SunSeeker
(55,328 posts)
generalbetrayus
(824 posts)will not take advantage of the situation to jack up prices on goods that the tariffs don't affect.
SunSeeker
(55,328 posts)
generalbetrayus
(824 posts)Comfortably_Numb
(4,180 posts)But Im putting off my stop there till tomorrow, since its mid day now for me.
AZ8theist
(6,677 posts)....No way I'm putting up with the insanity of their parking lots.
niyad
(123,009 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(53,942 posts)If you buy from dealer stock you might do better now than next week.
Similarly for used cars, expect their prices to rise starting pretty much now.
Likewise for big appliances, etc.
BonnieJW
(2,839 posts)Now that I'm retired, I only use it twice a week. My mother had a Buick that lasted 14 years and I plan on making mine last that long as well
Bernardo de La Paz
(53,942 posts)Assuming a typo, I applaud using vehicles for as long as possible. Repair and maintenance use less energy and resources than new vehicles. The result is kinder to the earth and the climate.
True Blue American
(18,479 posts)Because some one ran a red light, totaled my LaCrosse. Costs me $14,$15 ?-a month to fill up. Has everything on it. Last one,love it!
I take Entresto heart medication, hard to keep them straight.😔🫠
DFW
(57,633 posts)But we live in Germany, and the locally made cars are just fine. Mine is 12 years old, and has less than 50,000 KM on it, since I take a lot of trains (no desire to become a statistic on the Autobahns here).
Linda ladeewolf
(815 posts)I rotate new purchases to the back so the oldest is in the front. I will be reorganizing this week. I need to store more. I replace what I use each week, rotating the new to the back. It will last as long as I can make it. Its all some of us can do.
Trueblue Texan
(3,253 posts)...expecting this. Stocked up on canned tomatoes, dry beans, oatmeal, rice, quinoa, grits, flour, yeast, cornmeal, nuts, and coffee. We're not big meat eaters, so I can make that stuff stretch.
Linda ladeewolf
(815 posts)So I set it up so he gets a little more than I. Id rather have veggies myself. Im hoping to get a few chickens once I get the coop built and the house up. Ill cover it and make it as small bird proof as possible. Im waiting to see if my paw paw trees survived. Last year the web worms just ate them up. This year I have a solution, but they may not have made it. Im getting what I can plant and care for easily. Its going to get rough, Im afraid.
Trueblue Texan
(3,253 posts)I don't have much space to garden, but I keep a large container garden in the back yard in grow bags and plastic swimming pools. Also have a couple of waist high raised beds. These small gardens are great for growing things like peppers, onions, herbs and other things that can get quite pricey. Have you looked at the price of parsley? Crazy expensive. I don't know how well the fruit trees will do, though with the bee population so stressed. I'm hoping to coax some into our lair with bird baths out on the side of the house where I put the fruit trees.
IronLionZion
(48,294 posts)Although some items would go bad or stale. Good to check expiration dates on foods.
I guess now we'll have another COVID-style run on toilet paper and other household items. Then shortages and empty shelves. Back to the glory days of 2020, when America was great.
Hope22
(3,812 posts)mwooldri
(10,603 posts)If/when demand for that commodity goes up, I assume FMCSA (assuming we still have a FMCSA) will be doing waivers of hours of service...
Just think to myself "job security.... Job security...."
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,680 posts)I did service jobs in some mills up there and specifically recall one that did mostly newsprint and another that did fine white papers.
Glad I recently stocked up on toilet paper although I'm not sure where it's mostly produced. Probably in some of Koch's mills.
KY
Trueblue Texan
(3,253 posts)subscribe to Who Gives a Crap toilet paper--I think they also make paper towels. They donate profits to poor communities globally. You can get on their subscription plan and not have to worry about shortages.
love_katz
(2,968 posts)I have been a customer for their paper towels and t. p. since before the pandemic.
It's me made from bamboo and is excellent quality. They also carry to facial tissue and napkins, all made from bamboo.
They also carry cleaning products in aluminum bottles instead of plastic, shampoo and body wash soap ditto, and storage containers to cut down on use of plastic. They carry many other products that are environmentally friendly.
MissB
(16,283 posts)It was on sale; limit 2.
SARose
(1,295 posts)Still do this every year - lived in Houston.
Every week I add a jar of peanut butter to my weekly groceries. Next week I add crackers to my groceries. The next week I add a can or two of vegetables - if they are on sale score! Then fruit; rice; coffee not pods, etc.
Once a month I add a gallon of water or two. Im using up last years stored water now. Toilet paper roll and paper towels are nice, too.
I used to place these items in a large, clear plastic bin labeled Emergency. Add some small bills, cat food, dog food, etc.
I also have a change of clothes, socks, shoes for each of us in an under bed storage bag.
You will be surprised how quickly your stash grows!
Bayard
(24,634 posts)Wondering where we can build more. We're putting in a big garden, and I'm planning on canning a lot of it.
SARose
(1,295 posts)We converted to a pantry when Covid hit.
We gardened in Houston and canned a lot. Good luck!
Bristlecone
(10,662 posts)Everything TSF touches dies
leftyladyfrommo
(19,648 posts)measles and tuberculosis are rearing their ugly heads again.
wolfie001
(4,405 posts)Should last until June.
OldBaldy1701E
(7,549 posts)I hope that orange gibbon knows what is going to happen when all the coffee goes away. The hordes of stressed out, half groggy but still dangerous, manic people will be storming the White House in the millions.
Here is one of the prominent buttons on my guitar strap...
Of course, the other prominent one is...
So... anyway, stopping the caffeine train is going to be interesting to say the least. Withdrawl is real and will be bad for some people.
wolfie001
(4,405 posts)Love me some coffee! Not too much though or I end up like this 👉
applegrove
(125,420 posts)in price too even though they are not affected by tariffs because big business does that.
wolfie001
(4,405 posts)"All companies suck, some more than others".................now retired. Hoping the bloated, orange menace doesn't foul that plan.
Silver Gaia
(5,038 posts)Mostly on food, but today, I ordered other stuff, like TP, tylenol, soap, etc.
Don't forget things like masks, clorox wipes or other disinfectants, and gloves if you need them!!!
I know its a big expense now, but if you can find a way, it will save you money in the long run. Even if it just lasts for a few weeks or months because that's all you could afford, its better than nothing.
highplainsdem
(55,166 posts)prices quickly for everyone who can't immediately stock up, for whatever reason (disability/storage room/money). I can remember lots of stories in the early days of Covid about people buying all the in-demand items they could grab to resell at much higher prices. So it seemed that the people who could have afforded the higher prices pretty easily caused hardship for others.
sekha68
(35 posts)I resent hoarders especially for this fact. When I saw the pleas from parents who couldn't even go to the market and find formula or diapers. Many people live paycheck to paycheck simply can't afford to "stock up" on necessities. I find this type of hoarding selfish, cruel and just gross.
Beachnutt
(8,621 posts)2 packages of underwear, 2 packs of socks and 6 shirts this morning.
generalbetrayus
(824 posts)but maybe not that much more expensive than South American coffee will be in the near future. I hope Orange Julius Caesar isn't like my late ex-father-in-law who thought Hawaii was a separate country.
Marthe48
(20,370 posts)Because I knew the shitstorm was coming.
Food banks and utility help in Ohio has already taken hits. I'm trying to think of a way to food share with my friends that isn't the local food bank. 76% of the asses in this county voted for this horror.
MissB
(16,283 posts)So I intend to offer extra to my neighbors, friends and co-workers. My siblings have gardens too, so I'm not worried about them.
I already give away extra eggs. I currently have at least 4 dozen in the fridge that I need to offload today or tomorrow. It used to be much easier when I worked in an office.
I also give away extra seedlings as I'm planting out my garden. Usually we have a get together with friends and I put out the extra plants with some brief descriptions and folks just take them away. Sometimes they even bring back the pots and trays at the end of the season. Sometimes even cleaned up.
Marthe48
(20,370 posts)A good combination for getting through this.
I hope farmers and schools will partner with each other in spite of the failure of the cruelty-is-the-point felon to destroy American markets.
littlemissmartypants
(27,070 posts)alfredo
(60,162 posts)Live on that but I like to eat solid food.
Im making my own bread too.
Been hungry before, and I survived it . I lived on potatoes and onions.
Look for more restaurants closing.
Marthe48
(20,370 posts)
barbtries
(30,281 posts)limited space.
MiHale
(11,444 posts)Only time I took him at his word.
Stocked up on tons of dried beans of all sorts to lessen meat consumption. We have a huge garden that supplies us with fresh veggies most of the year. At harvest we either freeze or dehydrate our vegetable stocks.
What we dont grow local farmers flesh out the supply.
Leaning more toward dehydrating to move out of the freezer for safety. Never know when a power outage will hit.
In before the tariffs on a new washing machine and a new to us car. Plus, most of the replacement tools and supplies for the garden.
Next up is paper products.
Weve already done much of this for years, stocking up for winter, amounts and techniques are the only real change.
roamer65
(37,531 posts)Slashing and scrutinizing all spending.
Most discretionary gone.
MissB
(16,283 posts)I upped my deep pantry after November but held off on the major cost cutting until Inauguration Day. I hope that a ton of folks got rid of Amazon Prime etc that day. I no longer have any streaming services. I think I used to have like 4 or 5? It was ridiculous.
The only thing we've held on to is once a week take out or eat-in. There are a couple of local restaurants that we want to see survive this if possible, so we make sure to cycle through those each month.
Mike 03
(18,323 posts)I take these tips (depending upon the source) seriously. Even though I had reached what I thought was a stopping point for stocking up, after yesterday's presser I broke my own rule and ordered some additional supplies.
The prices on products not directly impacted by tariffs will rise too, especially if it falls within a category of items in which popular competitors ARE under tariff, regardless of whether or not we continue to import them. Less competitive pricing means producers can raise prices arbitrarily. And higher prices on tariffed goods means competitors, likewise, can raise their prices without the prices looking suspiciously high, because the price is still less than the similar items from China, Europe, Viet Nam, Japan, Malaysia, etc...
We even might see the manifestation of new monopolies (probably temporary).
xuplate
(36 posts)Please run for president in 2028.
C_U_L8R
(46,918 posts)But there are some things we just can't protect.... like our social security savings. Trump is going to ruin everything.
get the red out
(13,705 posts)I go to Costco when the paycheck allows. I am grateful for having a garage attached to my small house.
Raftergirl
(1,647 posts)on what Im running low on. I do not like to go and make something for dinner and find out I dont have what I need.
When I go to the butcher I also buy several of the same item.
I had a new pantry built in my laundry room at the beginning of the pandemic and I have two refrigerators, 3 freezer (one a chest chest freezer) so I have plenty of storage space.
Joinfortmill
(17,710 posts)jalan48
(14,782 posts)Laurelin
(721 posts)We're supposed to have extra consumables on hand to prepare for war, so I did my shopping already. I had avocado toast for dinner and was happy to think that my avocados probably come from Mexico so tariff free. (Honestly they might come from a greenhouse in the Netherlands for all I know, but don't most avocados come from Mexico? )
LudwigPastorius
(12,045 posts)toilet paper will be the coin of the realm.
ReRe
(11,486 posts)






mdbl
(6,050 posts)Do they buy all their raw materials from other countries?
Attilatheblond
(5,567 posts)It's Viagra for ultra rich sociopaths and psychopaths. They want to see suffering. Trump wants to 'get even' with Americans for turning him out in 2020 and making him face the criminal charges he earned.
Meowmee
(8,229 posts)I plan to eat less hopefully, although I barely eat much compared to most... but I need to lose some weight. I will buy more protein powder for my shakes. That already costs a fortune.
Javaman
(63,498 posts)Since the orange asshole was reselected
I knew full well what was coming
Lots and lots of dry good sealing via a food sealer and packed in Home Depot buckets with lids.,
Enough for a year.
Plus my garden is up to speed and I will have plenty of canning to do in 2 months.
Anyone one paying attention and not in the cult, knew to do this, because we knew what was coming
cab67
(3,289 posts)...to always have at least a one-month supply of food in one's dwelling. I've always lived by that. I have an apartment, but I have enough food to live off for one or two. months.
I won't be living very well on it - it's canned and dried stuff, and I'm doomed if I lose my water supply - but it'll keep me alive.
AnnaLee
(1,242 posts)Just something I have been thinking about.
If you have the space and money, it might be a good time to store non-perishable (long term stable) foods for your local food banks. Some of the food programs have taken or are facing a large bite.
twodogsbarking
(13,155 posts)