JD Vance just told Fox & Friends that 40% of people calling Social Security "are actually committing fraud"

[highplainsdem]

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[SheltieLover]

1. Couch fucker should stfu

[NotHardly]

70. Impeach Trump, Vance & Johnson before they kill us all!

[SheltieLover]

74. Absolutely!

Send fleaon to mars with mtg.

[Lovie777]

2. These people are sick in the head as well as evil heart....................

[BoRaGard]

3. Will no one ever ask for proof?

You know, factual evidence.

GOP just spouts its crap all over the place,
and media leaves the faucet open wide

[Mr. Evil]

50. That always infuriates me.

The M$M (and always Focksnooze) never ask the most painfully obvious follow-up question.

[Scrivener7]

4. JD, I heard from the same source where you got that that your mother is a jackal.

[RazorbackExpat]

10. I heard that his mother was a hamster

and his father smelt of elderberries

[liberalgunwilltravel]

40. You silly

English Knights (pronounced Ka-nig-gets).

[ButchMcMuffin]

41. I fart in your general direction

[Dulcinea]

53. I blow my nose at you! nt

[Johonny]

5. 100 % of guests on Fox and Friends are frauds

[bearsfootball516]

6. Lol let them cut into social security.

2026 and 28 will be blue waves the likes we've never seen before. There's no larger voting bloc than voters who are 65 or older.

[a kennedy]

12. I hope you're right, all I see and think is thousands will die without their S S and there won't be enough people

to even vote. I am just so pissed at this whole gawd damn administration and all Repubs, and all the damn MAGA’s that voted this piece of shit in. 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬

[CrispyQ]

32. Don't forget the 6.3 million who voted for Biden but not for Harris.

I'm probably more angry with them than anyone.

[Moostache]

62. Preach on!

I consider those to be mortal sins in the Catholic vernacular... not merely venial.

[Ritabert]

85. You're assuming that count was true

I think Elmo had something to do with it. Trump himself said he helped him win Pennsylvania.

[rubbersole]

67. They'll be required to bring their death certificate to register...

[dalton99a]

7. The Nazi parasite pulled that number out of his ass and gave it to him

[Swede]

8. The lying POS even throws in the "150 years olds collecting checks" disproven lie.

They baldface lie and their followers scoop that shit up and ask for seconds.

[Norrrm]

36. JD! Who are they? Identify them if 'they' truly are collecting the money.

[ImNotGod]

9. I heard a caller on a progressive talk show say she called the SSA with a question and the person who was answering

her questions defended tRump when she bought him up, the SSA person got upset with her so maybe some tRumpster workers are helping with the fraud reporting.

[hlthe2b]

11. I don't know why I bother to ask, but since I can't watch now, did Fox anchors call him at all on this?

I know, I know, but once in a blue moon one will have a neurosynapse causing them to make a rational comment...
Hope springs eternal...

[Efilroft Sul]

13. You just know Vance looks at the curvy couch on Fox & Friends and says "Mmmmm..." to himself.

[Blue Owl]

58. It's all part of his cock and bull fantasy

[Pizza slice]

14. Read this somewhere

Out of the total amount of fraud committed, 40% of that amount took place over the phone. That’s different, Shady.

[sinkingfeeling]

21. Might believe that 40% of the scams against SS recipients is committed over the phone. But ...

Claims of widespread fraud in Social Security were misleading, with fraud representing just 0.00625% of the annual budget, far less than what private companies like Mastercard or Visa would accept.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/doge-is-disrupting-social-security/#:~:text=Claims%20of%20widespread%20fraud%20in,Mastercard%20or%20Visa%20would%20accept.

[CrispyQ]

38. 0.00625% vs 34 counts of business fraud makes me ask, "Where's the fraud?"

Answer: It's coming from inside the house...the White House.

Holy fuck, when will this shit show end?

[TBA]

15. I personally know 4 people on SSI

2 legitimately and 2 lied to get disability.

I believe there is fraud among those who claim disability. I've seen the qualifying forms (I helped one that was a legitimate claim).

For example, one illegitimate claim was based on depression. According to the form, you have to be unable to care for yourself and pretty much non functioning. She participates in local theater.

No fan of this administration, and I wish they would fund SS so fraudulent disability claims could be discovered.

[sinkingfeeling]

19. There's a hotline to report disability fraud.

1-800-269-0271
Do you suspect someone of committing fraud, waste, or abuse against Social Security? You can submit a report online at oig.ssa.gov or contact SSA's OIG fraud hotline at 1-800-269-0271.

[mountain grammy]

20. People can be disabled and still be able to participate in some way

in society and in their community. Unless you are very close to someone collecting disability you can't possibly know their exact situation. I know people who look great on the outside but it's complete chaos on the inside while access to services they need are scarce.

[Hope22]

25. Agree!

A family member on disability for depression was judged by people for improving or ‘seeming to be fine’. Participating in life does not mean the medical problem does not exist anymore. All of the judgement from others delayed his finding a life balance in handling his condition.

[W_HAMILTON]

89. Yep. I'd trust health professionals over anyone else.

And -- as someone who had to jump through all the hoops when helping my elderly mom apply for Medicaid, it took almost a year to get approved when she needed the care IMMEDIATELY -- I know that getting approved for disability is just as difficult, if not more so.

Rest assured that how many people are gaming the system through fraudulent means, there are probably 4x as many people that deserve the benefits and yet can't get them because of all roadblocks they put in their way to getting approved.

[Mysterian]

27. Crazy how you know so many people's deeply personal information

Really unusual!

[Kali]

28. huh

pretty high ratio that doesn't bear any relationship to the statistics

[allegorical oracle]

45. Tend to agree -- my rural FL observation spans 40 years. Have observed that

the women of the house work fulltime jobs while the men are on disability. Most have grown chlldren who no longer live at home. Some used attorneys to get their disabled status.

But I see them putting roofing on their mobile homes, carrying deer carcasses or 80-pound bags of deer corn around. Several have unreported side hustles doing well pump, air-conditioning or electrical repair work. One man said his monthly disability check is only $1,800/mo. and his wife's salary is $50,000/yr. plus bonuses. (I hadn't asked, he volunteered that info.)

Given the corruption in DC, I don't begrudge these people doing as well as they can, but do believe most fraud that is found in the system is likely related to disability. BTW, every one of these men voted for djt.

[Ms. Toad]

54. I'm appalled at the number of people who are sure that people with disabilities are cheating the system.

The ability to do some physical things, at a pace under their own control, does not mean they are not disabled. If, for example, their disability is PTSD it would not impair their ability to put roofing on their own home, carry deer carcasses, or 80 pound bags of deer corn around. But it might impair their ability to work around with others, or show up to a job regularly enough to maintain employment.

I have a disability - a back injury. I've had it since the 1980s. I'm not on disability, but I did receive a partial permanent disability payment for it under worker's compensation. My back injury is an atypical one - it bothers me when I a sitting - not when I'm active. I can lift 50 lbs without a problem - as long as I don't have to hang it off my right arm. But put me in the wrong chair for 15 minutes and I'm in agony for a month. Of course the worker's comp doctors tested for the more common manifestations of back injury.

Unless you were their attorney, or otherwise know them well enough to have seen their applications - and specific instances of lying - you don't know they are committing fraud. Life is hard enough for people with disabilities, without all of the spurious allegations that they are committing fraud in order to get the meager living allowance SSI offers.

[Celerity]

69. DU has had a reactionary undercurrent (that often pops up and punches down) since I joined in mid 2018.

[intrepidity]

78. Wish I could rec this post 100x

Your situation and experience is exactly like my own. It's exhausting explaining it, though. Well done.

(My back issues are also the same--the sitting/the chair, yikes!)

[dpibel]

56. That's amazing!

You know, not just one, but several people on disability, all men, all with working wives.

And you watch them closely enough to see them working on roofs, hauling deer carcasses, hauling deer corn, and even working on the side.

I'd wager that the vast majority of people know one, at most, people who are on SSI disability. More likely, zero.

But it's good you're out there keeping an eye on a whole crowd of grifters!

[niyad]

75. Actually, I know three*, two of whom I actually helped with forms and

documentation and doctor visits, and attended their hearings as a witness. The third was getting disability for a physical condition that, to my observation, was not that severe. However, as I pointed out to several people, her mental condition certainly warranted it, so I really didn't care, so long as she was covered somehow.



*This only refers to SSI. My history and acquintance with the VA system is far more extensive, and unpleasant.

[Ms. Toad]

46. So you have to just be sitting around being a couch potato, in your estimation,

to be a valid recipient of SSI?

Do you have a medical degree? Did you sit in on the evaluation process for this person? Are you their lawyer?

Invisible disabilities can be every bit as disabling as visible ones. And participating in social activities may mean the difference between life and death for someone with disabling depression, even if the depression is so severe that employment is not possible. You are not required to lock yourself away simply because you are receiving SSI. The test is the ability to participate in substantial gainful activity (not "unable to care for yourself and pretty much non functioning&quot . Substantial gainful activity, generally, is the ability to earn $1550 or more per month. My own participation in local theater on average, would not come close to that - even if I were paid, to address the specific allegation you made as to why this person is faking it.

(I am an attorney, I have a daughter with an invisible physical disability. She doesn't yet need SSI, but many of her peers with the same disease do. She also struggles with depression, which is notoriously hard to treat. From those perspectives, I know how hard it is to obtain SSI. I doubt either of the "illegitimate" claims are actually illegitimate.)

[misanthrope]

87. JD Vance deserves to be lifted up

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from the ground only by his pubic hair and then left for public display.

[Ms. Toad]

90. On second thought, you're right.

It's the only way we'll be free of these ##!? freeloaders.

[NoMoreRepugs]

63. Hmmmm, I'll go with the Brookings Institute's findings I think.

[Wiz Imp]

73. SSI is NOT Social Security

It is overseen by the SSA, but is a completely separate program.

https://www.ssa.gov/redbook/eng/overview-disability.htm?

The SSI program makes cash payments to people who are aged, blind, or have developed a disability (including children) and who have limited income and resources. The federal government funds SSI from general tax revenues. Many states pay a supplemental benefit to people in addition to the federal payments. Some of these states have arrangements with us to combine their supplemental payment with the federal SSI payment into 1 monthly check. Other states manage their own programs and make their payments separately. Title XVI of the Social Security Act authorizes SSI benefits.

SSDI provides benefits to people who have developed a disability or who are blind and who are “insured” by workers’ contributions to the Social Security trust fund. These contributions are based on your earnings (or those of your spouse or parents) as required by the Federal Insurance Contributions Act (FICA). Title II of the Social Security Act authorizes SSDI benefits. Your dependents may also be eligible for benefits from your earnings record.

As an aside, I know someone whose wife is on SSDI. She is legitimately disabled and I believe it took over 2 YEARS from the time she first applied until the time it was approved. Yes, there is fraud committed in SSI & SSDI but it is far from a massive amount and not at all easy to get away with it.

[spooky3]

80. I think you are mistaken - see Sec. 12.04

https://www.ssa.gov/disability/professionals/bluebook/12.00-MentalDisorders-Adult.htm#12_04

[riversedge]

16. Trump sure picked a good LIAR for our VP. He can lie to your face real good.

[sinkingfeeling]

17. I was raised on a farm in Ohio and that's the largest pile of shit I've ever seen.

[CousinIT]

18. I saw some MAGAt repeat this crap on Nextdoor.

If there is THAT MUCH FRAUD in those calls WHERE ARE THE CHARGES?

WHERE ARE THE RECORDS? WHERE IS THE PROOF?

There isn't any because this is all lies.

[Emile]

22. The only ones I suspected of fraud are all Republicans.

Seriously

[yardwork]

31. Every Libertarian I know IRL (not many, admittedly) is on disability.

They drive around in their little motorized carts paid by Medicare and holler about getting the gubmint off their backs.

I saw one lose it ahead of me in line at the doctor's office. No clue. Absolutely no clue how fortunate they were to be covered by government assistance, all while hollering about Obama.

[Linda ladeewolf]

23. We can't wait for midterms. It will be too late by then.

We have to protest like our lives depend on it now, because they do. Trump has plans to kill off thousands of us and disappear even more of us into prisons without due process.

[Aviation Pro]

24. Hey, Flipper

Usha says it’s ok to have a second round with that couch.

[dchill]

26. To condense and clarify - "JD Vance... '...actually committing fraud'"

[Irish_Dem]

29. GOP accusations are confessions.

What kind of fraud is he committing?

[bucolic_frolic]

30. Let me guess, there will be an income test

If you don't make at least $200K a year you don't get anything. Reward the wealthy, starve the rest.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

33. That jerkoff lies every time he opens his damn mouth... he should go fuck another couch & STFU!!

[Turbineguy]

34. We've elected our enemies.

[spanone]

35. You have to be a liar if you work with trmp...

He's a fucking liar.

[Wounded Bear]

37. You used to have to go on line to hear that level of bullshit...

[Eliot Rosewater]

39. They are going to take our Social Security, it's that simple

[Crowman2009]

42. Makes me wish I had chosen the East Coast as my choice for USMC duty station in 1998.

Because I would have been stationed at the same base as Cpl. Vance (MCAS Cherry Pt., NC) and make him do something that gets him demoted to Private. His CO would have ask him about all those couch f***in' photos that surfaced.

[hadEnuf]

43. Trump's cabinet is full of liars, spies and terrorists who are actively working against the American people.

Impeachments and removal from offices need to start happening immediately.

[IronLionZion]

44. Move fast and break things

if you don't like broken things, then you're fraud. Either way, no more social security payments for you. Cruelty is the point.

[MayReasonRule]

47. Vance Talks Out Of His Ass Which Is Also Where His Sense Of Taste Resides

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[Basso8vb]

48. Go fuck another couch, creep.

[Owens]

49. Shows no proof of this

Are arrests being made? People being charged?

[blue-wave]

51. They are building the narrative

to destroy social security. I'll say it again. They are building the narrative to destroy the system. “A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.” 70 million American lives depend upon the social security system. Are they going to let those Americans starve?



The above quote is attributed to many people.

[Dulcinea]

52. Go bang a couch, VD Jance.

Does anyone actually take this asswipe seriously? Maybe Usha, but that's all.

[Littlered]

55. That is what

Elon and the doge crew said. So that is what Vance is repeating. They (doge) made this claim to justify having people come to the office in person. They claim nearly 40 percent of the calls are made by people trying to steal others identity. I have no idea if this is true. If it really is, what is the best way to handle it? I’ve never had to call for anything, so I have no idea what’s required to change deposit status. I know people on ss. I’ve never heard of any having (bank fraud) happen to them, have any of you?

[wiggs]

57. The lie covers their belief that if 1 person out of 100 gets something they don't deserve then the other 99

shouldn't get anything either. The Reagan 'welfare mom who drives a cadillac' syndrome.

[VMA131Marine]

88. But it's not 1 in 100 ...

It’s more like 1 in 10,000.

[C_U_L8R]

59. Come here and say that, couchfucker

Your mascara will be running when we're done with you.

[Sneederbunk]

60. With all this fraud, where are the prosecutions, Davenporter?

[flashman13]

61. Just when you thought the BS couldn't get deeper up steps JD.

Have you noticed that the lying continues to become ever more grandiose? Before long 110% of the callers are going to be committing fraud.

[RANDYWILDMAN]

64. JD 100% fraud

and he knows and we know it! go away D-bag

[SunSeeker]

65. He just defamed the American people. Impeach the motherfucker. nt

[wolfie001]

66. This imbecile is a poster boy on why Dump loves Xi, Putin and North Korea

The assholes that voted for Shitler can all go fuck the hell off!

[twodogsbarking]

68. Don't expect truth from Vance or FOX and Assholes.

[RobinA]

71. What Self-Respecting Fraudster

voluntarily calls SS if they don't have to? I'd sooner learn how to print counterfeit money than deal with that.

[ProfessorGAC]

72. Well, That Sounds Made Up

If a number seems unbelievable, it probably is.
This 40% thing is one of those.

[MichMan]

76. I understood that to mean that 40% of the calls received at SSA were by scammers trying to change people's banking info

Have no idea how many were successful and how many were stopped

[dpibel]

81. What an interesting understanding

Given that there's nary a word in the clip about scammers or banking info.

But perhaps you're just better tuned in to JD than I am.

[viva la]

77. Vance is just despicable.

He becomes whatever the creeps around him want him to be. and he has terrible taste in companions-- Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, Donald Trump.

[niyad]

79. STFU, you disgusting little pervert.

[LiberalArkie]

82. because 98 year old grandma's would never miss the payment. People do not rely on the SS checks, they rely on their

stock portfolios, trust funds and pension plans.

Hey everyone knows that.

[applegrove]

83. Just threatening to scapegoat anyone who speaks

the truth on Trump's policies. Lutnick did this same thing last week so it is a feature not a bug.

[jalan48]

84. They're intentionally tanking Social Security. This kind of shit from Vance is just fluff.

Everyone wants to hope and believe what they see with their eyes isn't happening, but it is.

[senseandsensibility]

86. Well, he needs to be called out LOUDLY

I gave up on the corporate media but Dems should be screaming about this.