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So how hard would it actually be to go to Canada, (Original Post) PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2 OP
You will need a visa. I don't know what Canada does to illegal alien Americans. Irish_Dem Apr 2 #1
Probably not too hard, as long as you didn't need a job or any government services. Ocelot II Apr 2 #2
Right now, you can go for 180 days tinrobot Apr 2 #3
I believe it is 180 days per year... Chemical Bill Apr 2 #7
I go up there 2-4 times a year for work... Mark.b2 Apr 2 #4
Thanks to all of you for your posts. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2 #5
We were all healthy, until one day we weren't. marybourg Apr 2 #6
I know you're right. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2 #8
Including dying young. marybourg Apr 2 #11
"I currently live in senior living, and I'm shocked, really shocked at how many people here need walkers." WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2 #9
The shock for me is that many people, apparently most people, PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2 #10
. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2 #12
Obese people die early. This is well known established scientific fact. I'm surprised you don't know this. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2 #15
Oh, dear. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2 #17
Consider Canada; doing interesting astronomy in British Columbia province, Nova Scotia, and Chile the country. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2 #14
My Wonderful Son The Astronomer PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2 #18
I'm thrilled to hear that! I should add U of Toronto to that list. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2 #19
Thank you. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2 #22
I've had patients tell me they don't get immunized against the flu Aristus Apr 2 #16
Unless you get into an immigration program you can't get free health care. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2 #13
I sort of know that. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2 #20
Canadians know & like Americans. Even Cdn government knows to distinguish btwn Americans & their goobermint. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2 #21

Irish_Dem

(68,098 posts)
1. You will need a visa. I don't know what Canada does to illegal alien Americans.
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 07:56 PM
Apr 2

I would suggest now is not the right time to find out.

My dream would be to rent a French style apartment in Old Quebec City all summer long.

Ocelot II

(124,230 posts)
2. Probably not too hard, as long as you didn't need a job or any government services.
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 07:59 PM
Apr 2

You'd need a visa to be there in the first place, and a landlord might want references or other info that would give you away. You could probably find a cabin in the woods somewhere and just go into town every few weeks for supplies, so it might be quite a long time before they discover that you'd overstayed your visa.

tinrobot

(11,517 posts)
3. Right now, you can go for 180 days
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 08:11 PM
Apr 2

One option would be spend 5-6 months in Canada, leave for a few weeks, then come back for another 180 days. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Chemical Bill

(2,740 posts)
7. I believe it is 180 days per year...
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 09:03 PM
Apr 2

I could be wrong. I think Mexico is the same. One could go to each for half the year, with a week in Jamaica in between....

Mark.b2

(545 posts)
4. I go up there 2-4 times a year for work...
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 08:18 PM
Apr 2

When clearing customs at the airport, they usually ask the purpose of my visit and when I’m leaving. Often, they’ll want to know who I’m meeting with.

If you tell them you will be stying for more than a few days, I’m guessing they’ll probe more.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(27,741 posts)
5. Thanks to all of you for your posts.
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 08:42 PM
Apr 2

I don't think Canada has suddenly started requiring visas for Americans.

And while I'm old, as in trombones years old, I am the healthiest person I know. I don't get sick. I haven't had a cold in perhaps 15 years. I literally never get the flu, as in I last had influenza sometime in the mid-70s, and never since. I don't bother with flu shots, either, although I'm not about to tell anyone else they shouldn't get one. Which means I would have almost no reason to seek out health care.

If I honestly had one wish, it would be that everyone could be as healthy as I am. A lot of doctors and nurses would need to find other work, and some hospitals would close, but wouldn't that be nice?

I currently live in senior living, and I'm shocked, really shocked at how many people here need walkers. Okay, I know they aren't using them without needing them, but still.

I am strongly encouraging My Son The Astronomer to look for a job overseas, once he completes his PhD. Hopefully he'll find one in a country that mom can also go to, but if not, he still needs to leave this country.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(27,741 posts)
8. I know you're right.
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 09:04 PM
Apr 2

But there are also a lot of things people can do to minimize the need for one.

WhiskeyGrinder

(24,671 posts)
9. "I currently live in senior living, and I'm shocked, really shocked at how many people here need walkers."
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 09:04 PM
Apr 2

What's shocking about it?

PoindexterOglethorpe

(27,741 posts)
10. The shock for me is that many people, apparently most people,
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 09:19 PM
Apr 2

deteriorate a lot starting at age 50 or 60, or even younger.

I was never one to push things like exercise: walking, running, lifting weights, any of that. I do realize they are very good for essentially everyone, but I still never got around to any of them. So I can't make a virtuous claim about anything like that.

I've been thinking a lot the past few days, trying to figure out why I'm so different, why I'm so much healthier than so many others. Certain things are more or less obvious: I have never smoked. I gave up soft drinks about 40 years ago. I eat as little manufactured food as possible. I do cheerfully consume alcohol, probably more than I should.

Oh, clearly weight matters. Virtually everyone I see here has a normal weight. I have only seen one obese person here, which I find interesting. Further proof that being overweight or obese is definitely not good for you.

Meanwhile, I have plans for my 97th birthday. There will be a total solar eclipse that year (August, 2045) that I want to see.

WhiskeyGrinder

(24,671 posts)
12. .
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 09:43 PM
Apr 2
The shock for me is that many people, apparently most people, deteriorate a lot starting at age 50 or 60, or even younger.
What do you mean by deteriorate, and what's your citation?

why I'm so much healthier than so many others.
What do you mean by healthier?

I have only seen one obese person here, which I find interesting. Further proof that being overweight or obese is definitely not good for you.
Wait, what is proof? The fact that you've seen one obese person wherever you're at?

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,694 posts)
15. Obese people die early. This is well known established scientific fact. I'm surprised you don't know this. . . . nt
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 09:57 PM
Apr 2

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PoindexterOglethorpe

(27,741 posts)
17. Oh, dear.
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 10:45 PM
Apr 2

By "deteriorate" I'm noticing that many cannot physically, emotionally, or in practical ways do things that were easier years before. I'm not citing any research, if that's what you mean. You can do that yourself. Meanwhile, I'm seeing that deterioration every day here. Again, because I'm in senior living, it's a lot more obvious than elsewhere.

By healthier I mean: I NEVER get colds or flu. Never, never, never. Well, okay, I had perhaps three colds between 2008 and 2011, when I was first here. Since then, none, nada, zero, zip. I used to have seasonal allergies (hay fever) and they went away a couple of decades ago. I last had flu in about 1974. And I don't bother with the flu vaccine, although I would never tell anyone else not to get it.

iI I go out in the "real world" I see lots of obese people. Obesity has become so common and ubiquitous that we generally don't really notice it any more. Here in my assisted living place, I simply don't see it, other than that one woman. And trust me, she stands out.

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,694 posts)
14. Consider Canada; doing interesting astronomy in British Columbia province, Nova Scotia, and Chile the country. . nt
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 09:55 PM
Apr 2

PoindexterOglethorpe

(27,741 posts)
18. My Wonderful Son The Astronomer
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 10:48 PM
Apr 2

is arriving tomorrow for a week's visit. Not long enough, in my opinion, but I last saw him some 18 months ago, so I can hardly wait. Canada would be perfect.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(27,741 posts)
22. Thank you.
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 11:04 PM
Apr 2

He is arriving tomorrow to visit me (hooray!) and I will push him as hard as I can on this.

For me the real issue is that I expect that funding for anything at all in astronomy is going to disappear. My Son The Astronomer does exo-planet research, and that is clearly one of the many things the DOGE ignoramuses know NOTHING about.

He's also extraordinarily fortunate in that he has an independent source of income (read: inheritance from grandparents and other relatives) and so actually does not need to work, were it to come to that. But he is fundamentally, intrinsically, and essentially someone who likes to work, who loves research, who is utterly fascinated by his field/research/learning.

Right now, as he finishes his PhD at George Mason, he's paid to operate the telescope there, which I gather he is pretty good at.

Aristus

(69,650 posts)
16. I've had patients tell me they don't get immunized against the flu
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 10:27 PM
Apr 2

because they’ve never had the flu in the past.

I sort of half-jokingly reply: “That’s like saying you’ll never die because you’ve never been dead before.”

PoindexterOglethorpe

(27,741 posts)
20. I sort of know that.
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 10:50 PM
Apr 2

I have never looked closely at moving there. Perhaps I should.

Although these days, I doubt very many countries are willing to accept Americans, no matter our political preferences.

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,694 posts)
21. Canadians know & like Americans. Even Cdn government knows to distinguish btwn Americans & their goobermint. . . nt
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 10:52 PM
Apr 2
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