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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf I see this correctly, in the Supreme Court race, every Wisconsin county
Last edited Wed Apr 2, 2025, 05:47 PM - Edit history (2)
shifted in favor of the Democrats. Click on the link and scroll down to "How voters in Wisconsin moved between elections." Instead of "regions" click the little circle for "county." Every arrow represents one Wisconsin county and every arrow points toward the Democrats gaining margin.
https://apnews.com/projects/election-results-2025/wisconsin/?r=50888

DemMedic
(390 posts)That's not even a tinfoil hat comment any more
SheltieLover
(65,736 posts)
onenote
(45,045 posts)That's a good thing, and I'm happy to see it.
But to be clear, 300,000 fewer votes were cast yesterday for Crawford than for either Harris or Baldwin in November. What made the differences is that close to 600,000 fewer votes were cast for Schimel than for Trump.
Prairie Gates
(4,691 posts)You don't say?
onenote
(45,045 posts)My post is that twice as many Trump voters stayed home as Harris/Baldwin voters. This is a good thing, but it shouldn't be mistaken as indicating there was a big shift in Trump voters to Crawford or an increase in Democrats showing up.
GusBob
(7,812 posts)there is the possibility that swing voters crossed over
onenote
(45,045 posts)A Harris/Baldwin voter stayed home. It might've happened, but it's more likely that the vast majority of the 600,000 voters who supported Trump but not Schimel just stayed home. Which is a good thing.
It is expected that an off year, spring election is going to have a significant drop off in turnout. The key -- and good news -- is that the drop off was twice as much for Schimel as for Crawford.
GusBob
(7,812 posts)Every single person I talked to that voted, voted our way, including 2 that didnt in Nov. Our entire clinic voted for Crawford, near as I can tell
the "Not For Sale" message resonated. People here don't like Musk
Its common thing I hear

I love the local feedback at DU.
blue-wave
(4,555 posts)amount of buyers remorse in republican circles. They aren't getting what they thought they voted for in November, so they stayed home. This race was THE most expensive judicial race in U.S. history. With the millions spent it, you cannot tell me that every voter in Wisconsin was not aware of the election. They had to be getting multiple texts, emails, phone calls, mailings and internet/TV advertisements about this race. They knew all about it and stayed home for a reason. This is what is scaring the republicans to their core.
blue-wave
(4,555 posts)why did they stay home? Are they upset that what they are getting is not what they voted for in November?
onenote
(45,045 posts)The more repub voters that get so disgusted with Trump and his enablers the better. I'd love for them to switch over to voting Democratic, but I'll take them just staying home if that's a bridge too far for some of them.
Deminpenn
(16,678 posts)to other R candidates even if they say the exact same things and run on the exact same issues.
We saw that in 2020 with the Senate special elections in GA right after Trump's win just a couple months earlier.
We saw it here in PA with Mastriano and again just last week with Dems flipping SD36.
We saw the Dems flip a state Senate seat in Iowa.
And in the two special elections yesterday in FL, both R candidates win, but underperformed Trump.
Wednesdays
(20,448 posts)Remember his "Just give me 11,780 votes" phone call?
Deminpenn
(16,678 posts)Should have said turnout in the special elections was lower than in the Nov vote when Trump was on the ballot.
quakerboy
(14,319 posts)Currently, the ap count is 1,301,128 crawford, 1036244 Schimel
Look at the last election for that seat, 2015
Bradley got 471,866 to her opponents 340k
Crawford got half a million more votes than both contenders combined for that same seat in the last election.
Or, look at the most recent other Wisconsin supreme court seat, 2023
Protaseiwicz got 1021822 to 818391
Crawford got almost a third of a million more folks to vote for her than the most recent equivalent election. An election where Democrats were very motivated to flip the court.
onenote
(45,045 posts)In 2015, the two candidates raised and spent a few hundred thousand dollars. Bradley only ran two tv ads, which cost around $145,000. Her opponent didn't run any ads.
And while spending in the 2023 election set a record at around $56 million, the spending in this year's election nearly doubled that.
Spending impacts turnout, So not really apples to apples when compared to earlier elections.
And this election was essentially a referendum on Trump and Musk. And that's why the important news is that a lot more republicans stayed home than Democrats.
Prairie Gates
(4,691 posts)surfered
(5,880 posts)angrychair
(10,447 posts)But it's still red state that voted for and supports the Mango Mussolini.
I have a blanket, unequivocal, unambiguous "no support" clause for Republican states that voted for him.
I don't care if the entire state is drowning and on fire at the same time. They voted for him, let them go to him for support. Good luck with that.
blue-wave
(4,555 posts)as a swing state. It is more likely purple, not red or blue. It went for Biden in 2020 and elects democrats to statewide office.
angrychair
(10,447 posts)But my position is unequivocal. Despite the previous four years and all the crazy shit he said in the election, they still voted for him. They are as much a red state as Alabama in my eyes. They voted for him. Screw Wisconsin.
yourout
(8,342 posts)Wiz Imp
(4,587 posts)They have a Democratic governor, Secretary of State, Attorney General and a Democratic majority on the state Supreme Court. One of the two US Senators is a Democrat, and Republicans only hold slight majorities in the state legislature and Congressional Delegation due to extreme gerrymandering (This Supreme Court win should help undo that extreme gerrymandering). The Democratic candidate for President has won Wisconsin in 8 of the past 10 elections. How do you call that a "red state"? Trump won the state in November by less than 30,000 votes (less than 0.9 percent). The vote in this judicial election would seem to contradict the idea that they "support" Trump at this point (The Democrat won by almost 250,000 votes - 8 times the margin that Trump won by).
Wisconsin is very much a 50-50 state NOT a red state.
angrychair
(10,447 posts)The majority voted for the Mango Mussolini. From my perspective that is an unforgivable sin.
They are no different than Alabama or Louisiana.
Wiz Imp
(4,587 posts)But saying a state voting for Trump is an unforgivable sin does not make them a red state. It makes them a state you have a problem with - fine. But they are not red.
angrychair
(10,447 posts)More Republican than voting for that fascist.
Sorry, your points are not lost on me. I get it. The me from 2014 would agree with everything you are saying but time has and Republicans have changed me.
I'm fucking sick and tired of Democrats always being the people that have to placate, to "reach out across the aisle" to "find common ground" to "forgive and forget". At some point you have to draw a line and say "no more".
That is where I am at. No more. States like Wisconsin or Michigan or Pennsylvania, they wanted that fascist in office so fuck them. Enjoy your oligarchy and kissing the feet of billionaires. I'm not doing it. No more.
et tu
(2,085 posts)thank you thank you thank you!
calimary
(85,681 posts)bucolic_frolic
(49,516 posts)so I doubt the needle can be moved that much without him.
progressoid
(51,185 posts)