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blue-wave

(4,555 posts)
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 10:46 AM Wednesday

If I see this correctly, in the Supreme Court race, every Wisconsin county

Last edited Wed Apr 2, 2025, 05:47 PM - Edit history (2)

shifted in favor of the Democrats. Click on the link and scroll down to "How voters in Wisconsin moved between elections." Instead of "regions" click the little circle for "county." Every arrow represents one Wisconsin county and every arrow points toward the Democrats gaining margin.

https://apnews.com/projects/election-results-2025/wisconsin/?r=50888

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If I see this correctly, in the Supreme Court race, every Wisconsin county (Original Post) blue-wave Wednesday OP
More reason for them not to hold more elections DemMedic Wednesday #1
Great job, WI!!! SheltieLover Wednesday #2
Doesn't this mean that more repubs stayed home than Dems? onenote Wednesday #3
An off-year Supreme Court election had fewer votes than a Presidential election? Prairie Gates Wednesday #5
As expected. But that isn't relevant to my post. onenote Wednesday #6
Perhaps some stayed home GusBob Wednesday #7
Which means that for every Trump voter that shifted to Crawford onenote Wednesday #9
What do I know, I only live here GusBob Wednesday #10
LOL NJCher Wednesday #15
There was likely a huge blue-wave Wednesday #27
Another question is blue-wave Wednesday #8
Hopefully so. onenote Wednesday #19
Trump's appeal doesn't translate Deminpenn Wednesday #17
Small correction: tRump didn't win GA in 2020 Wednesdays Wednesday #23
Of course you are correct Deminpenn Wednesday #25
Look at the apples to apples. quakerboy Wednesday #31
And look at how much was spent on those earlier elections. onenote Wednesday #32
Yes Prairie Gates Wednesday #4
That's getting my hopes up. surfered Wednesday #11
Great effort in a red state angrychair Wednesday #12
You might more accurately describe Wisconsin as blue-wave Wednesday #16
I understand your point angrychair Wednesday #18
If we weren't gerrymandered six ways to Sunday the congressional split will be almost even yourout Wednesday #28
Wisconsin is NOT a red state. Not even close. Wiz Imp Wednesday #20
Respectfully angrychair Wednesday #21
That's a ridiculous position to take, but you are certainly entitled to it. Wiz Imp Wednesday #22
You cannot be more "red" angrychair Wednesday #24
ah the badger state et tu Wednesday #13
Encouraging! calimary Wednesday #14
Musk was an exceptional candidate bucolic_frolic Wednesday #26
Even Republicans shifted to the left. progressoid Wednesday #29
Hopefully that continues nation-wide...nt Wounded Bear Wednesday #30

DemMedic

(390 posts)
1. More reason for them not to hold more elections
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 10:48 AM
Wednesday

That's not even a tinfoil hat comment any more

onenote

(45,045 posts)
3. Doesn't this mean that more repubs stayed home than Dems?
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 12:15 PM
Wednesday

That's a good thing, and I'm happy to see it.
But to be clear, 300,000 fewer votes were cast yesterday for Crawford than for either Harris or Baldwin in November. What made the differences is that close to 600,000 fewer votes were cast for Schimel than for Trump.

Prairie Gates

(4,691 posts)
5. An off-year Supreme Court election had fewer votes than a Presidential election?
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 12:18 PM
Wednesday

You don't say?

onenote

(45,045 posts)
6. As expected. But that isn't relevant to my post.
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 12:20 PM
Wednesday

My post is that twice as many Trump voters stayed home as Harris/Baldwin voters. This is a good thing, but it shouldn't be mistaken as indicating there was a big shift in Trump voters to Crawford or an increase in Democrats showing up.

onenote

(45,045 posts)
9. Which means that for every Trump voter that shifted to Crawford
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 12:30 PM
Wednesday

A Harris/Baldwin voter stayed home. It might've happened, but it's more likely that the vast majority of the 600,000 voters who supported Trump but not Schimel just stayed home. Which is a good thing.

It is expected that an off year, spring election is going to have a significant drop off in turnout. The key -- and good news -- is that the drop off was twice as much for Schimel as for Crawford.

GusBob

(7,812 posts)
10. What do I know, I only live here
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 12:35 PM
Wednesday

Every single person I talked to that voted, voted our way, including 2 that didnt in Nov. Our entire clinic voted for Crawford, near as I can tell

the "Not For Sale" message resonated. People here don't like Musk

Its common thing I hear

blue-wave

(4,555 posts)
27. There was likely a huge
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 05:54 PM
Wednesday

amount of buyers remorse in republican circles. They aren't getting what they thought they voted for in November, so they stayed home. This race was THE most expensive judicial race in U.S. history. With the millions spent it, you cannot tell me that every voter in Wisconsin was not aware of the election. They had to be getting multiple texts, emails, phone calls, mailings and internet/TV advertisements about this race. They knew all about it and stayed home for a reason. This is what is scaring the republicans to their core.

blue-wave

(4,555 posts)
8. Another question is
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 12:30 PM
Wednesday

why did they stay home? Are they upset that what they are getting is not what they voted for in November?

onenote

(45,045 posts)
19. Hopefully so.
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 01:42 PM
Wednesday

The more repub voters that get so disgusted with Trump and his enablers the better. I'd love for them to switch over to voting Democratic, but I'll take them just staying home if that's a bridge too far for some of them.

Deminpenn

(16,678 posts)
17. Trump's appeal doesn't translate
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 01:32 PM
Wednesday

to other R candidates even if they say the exact same things and run on the exact same issues.

We saw that in 2020 with the Senate special elections in GA right after Trump's win just a couple months earlier.

We saw it here in PA with Mastriano and again just last week with Dems flipping SD36.

We saw the Dems flip a state Senate seat in Iowa.

And in the two special elections yesterday in FL, both R candidates win, but underperformed Trump.

Wednesdays

(20,448 posts)
23. Small correction: tRump didn't win GA in 2020
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 02:30 PM
Wednesday

Remember his "Just give me 11,780 votes" phone call?

Deminpenn

(16,678 posts)
25. Of course you are correct
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 05:33 PM
Wednesday

Should have said turnout in the special elections was lower than in the Nov vote when Trump was on the ballot.

quakerboy

(14,319 posts)
31. Look at the apples to apples.
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 10:59 PM
Wednesday

Currently, the ap count is 1,301,128 crawford, 1036244 Schimel

Look at the last election for that seat, 2015

Bradley got 471,866 to her opponents 340k

Crawford got half a million more votes than both contenders combined for that same seat in the last election.

Or, look at the most recent other Wisconsin supreme court seat, 2023

Protaseiwicz got 1021822 to 818391

Crawford got almost a third of a million more folks to vote for her than the most recent equivalent election. An election where Democrats were very motivated to flip the court.

onenote

(45,045 posts)
32. And look at how much was spent on those earlier elections.
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 11:10 PM
Wednesday

In 2015, the two candidates raised and spent a few hundred thousand dollars. Bradley only ran two tv ads, which cost around $145,000. Her opponent didn't run any ads.

And while spending in the 2023 election set a record at around $56 million, the spending in this year's election nearly doubled that.

Spending impacts turnout, So not really apples to apples when compared to earlier elections.

And this election was essentially a referendum on Trump and Musk. And that's why the important news is that a lot more republicans stayed home than Democrats.

angrychair

(10,447 posts)
12. Great effort in a red state
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 01:08 PM
Wednesday

But it's still red state that voted for and supports the Mango Mussolini.

I have a blanket, unequivocal, unambiguous "no support" clause for Republican states that voted for him.
I don't care if the entire state is drowning and on fire at the same time. They voted for him, let them go to him for support. Good luck with that.

blue-wave

(4,555 posts)
16. You might more accurately describe Wisconsin as
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 01:29 PM
Wednesday

as a swing state. It is more likely purple, not red or blue. It went for Biden in 2020 and elects democrats to statewide office.

angrychair

(10,447 posts)
18. I understand your point
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 01:37 PM
Wednesday

But my position is unequivocal. Despite the previous four years and all the crazy shit he said in the election, they still voted for him. They are as much a red state as Alabama in my eyes. They voted for him. Screw Wisconsin.

yourout

(8,342 posts)
28. If we weren't gerrymandered six ways to Sunday the congressional split will be almost even
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 06:13 PM
Wednesday

Wiz Imp

(4,587 posts)
20. Wisconsin is NOT a red state. Not even close.
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 01:59 PM
Wednesday

They have a Democratic governor, Secretary of State, Attorney General and a Democratic majority on the state Supreme Court. One of the two US Senators is a Democrat, and Republicans only hold slight majorities in the state legislature and Congressional Delegation due to extreme gerrymandering (This Supreme Court win should help undo that extreme gerrymandering). The Democratic candidate for President has won Wisconsin in 8 of the past 10 elections. How do you call that a "red state"? Trump won the state in November by less than 30,000 votes (less than 0.9 percent). The vote in this judicial election would seem to contradict the idea that they "support" Trump at this point (The Democrat won by almost 250,000 votes - 8 times the margin that Trump won by).

Wisconsin is very much a 50-50 state NOT a red state.

angrychair

(10,447 posts)
21. Respectfully
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 02:05 PM
Wednesday

The majority voted for the Mango Mussolini. From my perspective that is an unforgivable sin.
They are no different than Alabama or Louisiana.

Wiz Imp

(4,587 posts)
22. That's a ridiculous position to take, but you are certainly entitled to it.
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 02:12 PM
Wednesday

But saying a state voting for Trump is an unforgivable sin does not make them a red state. It makes them a state you have a problem with - fine. But they are not red.

angrychair

(10,447 posts)
24. You cannot be more "red"
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 02:43 PM
Wednesday

More Republican than voting for that fascist.

Sorry, your points are not lost on me. I get it. The me from 2014 would agree with everything you are saying but time has and Republicans have changed me.
I'm fucking sick and tired of Democrats always being the people that have to placate, to "reach out across the aisle" to "find common ground" to "forgive and forget". At some point you have to draw a line and say "no more".
That is where I am at. No more. States like Wisconsin or Michigan or Pennsylvania, they wanted that fascist in office so fuck them. Enjoy your oligarchy and kissing the feet of billionaires. I'm not doing it. No more.

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