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Diraven

(931 posts)
2. They'll weekend at Bernie's him
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 12:01 AM
6 hrs ago

Before anyone dares 25th Amendment him. They need him as the orange face of their cult.

Rocknation

(44,785 posts)
6. And his weapon of choice against Smith
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 12:21 AM
5 hrs ago

looks to be incompetence or insanity against his criminal and civil charges -- assuming that he loses, of course...


Rocknation

jalan48

(14,234 posts)
5. He's a mobster. They will give him a hot shot and say he had a heart attack. Vance will be the new President.
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 12:14 AM
6 hrs ago

DSandra

(1,152 posts)
7. Vance is just as dangerous as Trump
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 12:21 AM
5 hrs ago

A smooth liar, he would usher in the Handmaids Tale without a hesitation.

RidinWithHarris

(620 posts)
10. I don't think Trump's ego allows him to purposefully try to lose...
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 12:30 AM
5 hrs ago

...or to imagine he can be bested by such a plan.

Besides he's (very, very slowly) traveling down Shit Creek without a paddle if he doesn't have the presidency to protect himself from the law. He still has a strong motivation to win because of that.

I think Trump is just a degenerating, decomposing hot mess who can't do any better than he's doing. If he didn't have people protecting him from making a worse fool of himself he'd be failing and flailing even more.

As for the people protecting them... those people I'd guess are quite willing to 25-punt Trump as soon as they can.

Initech

(101,395 posts)
11. No question about it!
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 12:30 AM
5 hrs ago

In fact the fuckheads that be are planning on it, because they want power and money. And JD Vance will be America's Viktor Orban - there's no way he will leave even if he's forced out.

usonian

(12,929 posts)
13. But isn't that part of the plan?
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 12:34 AM
5 hrs ago

Vance agrees to two the line on his big lie.
Gets into office by hook or by crook, and pardons Trump.

Just stop them all.

S/V Loner

(9,078 posts)
14. I am convinced that the deal is...
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 12:37 AM
5 hrs ago

If he gets elected he will be pardoned by Vance if he resigns. Thiel and others are only tolerating him so they can use his base. I also think he is good with that. He doesn't want to have to work at 80 years old nor is he capable of that. If he can still golf he will and continue to create headlines to feed his ego. He will take the deal knowing that Thiel and Musk will make what life he has left miserable.
I was just saying to someone that the ignorant Maga's are actually voting a Vance/Thiel ticket and they don't have a clue.
That is my take and the only one that makes sense to me. Don't think for a moment that Thiel and the other billionaires actually like trump. What they like is the potential ticket to power and control. That is what they are buying and once trump is gone Vance is their puppet. Vance has no ideological core and that makes him perfect for them as he stands for nothing.

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