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Pototan

(1,833 posts)
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 10:52 PM 7 hrs ago

FOX News has strange poll numbers...

...that defy conventional wisdom. It finds Trump up by 2 points nationally, yet Harris leads by 6 points in the 7 swing states.

https://www.foxnews.com/official-polls/fox-news-poll-trump-ahead-harris-2-points-nationally

Former President Trump is ahead of Vice President Kamala Harris in the presidential contest 50%-48%, according to a new Fox News national survey. That’s a reversal from last month, when Harris had a narrow advantage.

Harris, however, is ahead by 6 points among voters from the seven key battleground states, and the candidates are tied at 49% each among voters in close counties (where the Biden-Trump 2020 margin was less than 10 points). Trump’s advantage comes from a larger share in counties he won by more than 10 points in 2020 (64%-35%) than Harris has in counties Biden won by more than 10 points (58%-39%).

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FOX News has strange poll numbers... (Original Post) Pototan 7 hrs ago OP
So she has an electoral college advantage? ColinC 7 hrs ago #1
can you imagine how much it would drive repukes insane Skittles 7 hrs ago #3
Itd be kinda awesome ColinC 7 hrs ago #7
even though they would get a decent president Skittles 5 hrs ago #12
I think the 6 point lead in swing states is HIGHLY questionable stopdiggin 6 hrs ago #8
Did they forget NY and California?...... Lovie777 7 hrs ago #2
don't they always? Skittles 7 hrs ago #4
Thats not possible. JFC Klarkashton 7 hrs ago #5
Fox News polls are crazy Diraven 7 hrs ago #6
Amazing what can happen when they pull random numbers out of their asses. Doodley 6 hrs ago #9
Talk about an outlier Wiz Imp 6 hrs ago #10
Looks like someone trying to tune the "likely voter" model at the last minute 0rganism 5 hrs ago #11

ColinC

(10,247 posts)
1. So she has an electoral college advantage?
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 10:55 PM
7 hrs ago

She doesn't need to win the popular vote. Just the electoral college. Great news!

Skittles

(157,562 posts)
3. can you imagine how much it would drive repukes insane
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 10:59 PM
7 hrs ago

if a DEMOCRAT won via Electoral College only?

ColinC

(10,247 posts)
7. Itd be kinda awesome
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 11:17 PM
7 hrs ago

AlthoughIone can't help but think they would try to make an exception for it that one time with a lofty supreme court ruling

stopdiggin

(12,564 posts)
8. I think the 6 point lead in swing states is HIGHLY questionable
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 11:26 PM
6 hrs ago

and I rather doubt that is what the polling actually says (Fox's or anyone else's)

Diraven

(931 posts)
6. Fox News polls are crazy
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 11:06 PM
7 hrs ago

A couple weeks ago they put one out that literally claimed there was a 25% swing of younger voters away from Harris toward Trump in the 3 weeks after the Dem Convention. I think what they do is decide the result they want and massage the "weightings" until they get it.

Wiz Imp

(951 posts)
10. Talk about an outlier
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 12:10 AM
6 hrs ago

Not only is the top line an outlier, but the numbers they show for the various demographic breakdowns are way out of whack with any other polls as well. And as others have said, the swing state number makes no sense to the point of being impossible. Besides, any "state" numbers are effectively garbage anyway given that they didn't sample at a state level. I wouldn't be too concerned with this poll, especially with the boatload of reputable polls from the past 2 days all showing a 3 point or better lead for Harris.

This really smacks of Fox intentionally releasing poll numbers significantly different than anyone else on purpose in order to get more attention without concern for accuracy but possibly to help the narrative of Trump winning so he can cry "stolen election!".

0rganism

(24,478 posts)
11. Looks like someone trying to tune the "likely voter" model at the last minute
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 12:35 AM
5 hrs ago

"Frank we need to publish those results at 3pm today. Did you finish the adjustments you were talking about yesterday?"

"Just a few more changes Bert, the new crosstabs look funny."

"But you came up with a Trump win, right?"

"Sort of, but there's a problem."

"Great. No time to fix it, we're live in 5 minutes."

"OK, Bert, but it's your funeral."

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