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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsVP Harris has promised to have a republican in her cabinet. Who do you think it would be and for what position?
Kinzinger to head up the VA? or DNI
Olivia Troye? Homeland Security? UN Ambassador?
msongs
(69,768 posts)Sneederbunk
(14,938 posts)See JFK
bottomofthehill
(8,721 posts)Bill Clinton, Dave Barrum GSA Administrator
Barak Obama Ray Lahood, Secretary of Transportation.
mobeau69
(11,405 posts)TxGuitar
(4,270 posts)These aren't the days when there are decent republicans who can fill roles. No one who identifies as a republican now is not a fascist. Why let the pigs in?
And I would posit that the number of decent conservatives in the past 50 years can be counted on one hand.
dsc
(52,534 posts)W Bush named a Democrat to the Sec of Transportation,
WarGamer
(14,713 posts)aocommunalpunch
(4,356 posts)It sounds tone deaf and alienating. Fuck Republicans. Christ.
Mz Pip
(27,803 posts)Im fine with that. We cant continue down this hyper partisan path. Im old enough to remember when the parties worked together and it didnt feel like we were on the verge of a civil war.
aocommunalpunch
(4,356 posts)Republicans havent seen hyperpartisanship. We should actually try it and then they can bitch. Bipartisanship is a fucking fairy tale and Im too old for that shit. I dont believe theres anyone anywhere who is going to vote for Harris because she promises to bring in Republicans to her fucking cabinet. I have heard lots of criticism for doing just that, so perhaps playing to her base would be a sounder strategy. Whatever. She should just promise MORE positions to right wingers! Well get MORE votes?
Hotler
(11,891 posts)of enlightenment and unite after the election. Ain't going to happen.
onenote
(44,105 posts)Not meant as an insult. Just a statement of opinion.
aocommunalpunch
(4,356 posts)I suppose she can keep offering the right wing all kinds of things because she knows best. Personally, I think playing to your base is smart, but whatever. Fuck Republicans.
Jmb 4 Harris-Walz
(578 posts)Since MAGAt repubs in congress continue to act like idiotic nitwits, the dems should step up and act like the rational adults we are, to start the healing process.
Luckily we have many repubs REAL repubs to choose from. Remember, therell be another election 2 and 4 years from now. If we want to continue to have the REAL repubs support, we MUST do what is the logical thing to keep it.
How many cabinet positions are there anyway. Im sure giving a few to our repub supporters will not debilitate us. Beside, look at what they are sacrificing to help us
setting aside their political values. Surely we can afford to be generous in return.
aocommunalpunch
(4,356 posts)Try hiring DEMOCRATS. Why the ever loving FUCK is everyone so opposed to just hiring Democrats? Its like fucking kryptonite all the sudden. Oh, no! The Republicans will make shit up about and smear us! That wont happen if were nice to them. Fuck fucking Republicans. Goddamn.
former9thward
(33,297 posts)That ship has sailed.
Skittles
(157,562 posts)it is fucking ridiculous
Joinfortmill
(16,073 posts)Think. Again.
(16,608 posts)Pink Hyacinth
(18 posts)She was the first one I thought of, but not sure what would be the best thing for her to do.
Walleye
(34,553 posts)It is a huge agency though
GregariousGroundhog
(7,559 posts)Currently, those posts are held by Avril Haines and Jake Sullivan, respectively.
In the House, Liz Cheney served on the Committee of Armed Forces and on its Subcomittee of Intelligence and Special Operations.
Walleye
(34,553 posts)angrychair
(9,562 posts)No you can't. She literally excused Democrats of killing babies after they are born in 2019.
Fuck Liz Cheney and her father and every Republican.
Jmb 4 Harris-Walz
(578 posts)Volaris
(10,516 posts)I've no issue with that position advocating hard for killing bad guys, as long as the decision about who is and is not, a bad guy is Kamalas decision.
I don't want her near anything resembling social services (and I don't think she would take it...she's probably honest enough with herself that she knows she wouldn't really care about it correctly, and would therefore suck at it).
Skittles
(157,562 posts)ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOT
Joinfortmill
(16,073 posts)Skittles
(157,562 posts)fuck that repuke nepo baby, and her warmongering POS father too
there, THAT'S how I really feel
Joinfortmill
(16,073 posts)haele
(13,317 posts)the military. He lead the charge to cut DoD expenses, shifting that "savings" to the Treasury into the pockets of contract service providers, leading to a significant amount of equipment down-time along with a loss of training and experiance when shit goes down underway or out in the field. He also consolidated bases and maintenance facilities, leading to problems caused like those that occured when they sent Navy Carrier and Marine Corps planes to be serviced at Air Force maintenance bases.
Y'see, Air Force doesn't have requirements to land on a postage stamp in the middle of the ocean; way different specs and tolerances, and about a dozen pilots were killed over three years before the Navy put it's foot down and said no, we re-open our own maintenance depots.
He, like his partner in privatization Donnie Rumsfeld, thought the military shouldn't try to attract intelligent and curious service personnel. Soldiers and Sailors are fungible DoD assets.
She's too much like her father, and she's invested the same way he's always been.
Haele
Skittles
(157,562 posts)if she wants to trash Trump, that's fine but it does not redeem her, she is still a POS repuke
haele
(13,317 posts)She's a smarmy, conniving Church Lady type that Evangelical huckster ministers use as their social and financial enforcers.
She might not skim off the collection plate herself, but she knows all the congregation secrets and uses them to the advantage of the hierarchy.
Haele
Skittles
(157,562 posts)you get it
Meadowoak
(6,016 posts)Think. Again.
(16,608 posts)aocommunalpunch
(4,356 posts)Fucking counterproductive, IMO.
Think. Again.
(16,608 posts)tulipsandroses
(5,942 posts)capacity. Nothing else. I'm pretty sure that they would not sell us out to Putin.
Kinzinger is a Vet, I think he would look out for vets and take intelligence and security issues seriously. Olivia Troye has national security experience.
I don't think Liz Cheney should be anywhere near a cabinet position. I know she would stand up to Putin, but I'm not rehabbing her to run for president in the future.
You don't want any of these folks running HUD, Labor, Education, Treasury, Health or any other position that affects us day to day.
Think. Again.
(16,608 posts)disappearingboy
(57 posts)I'd be alright with that.
onenote
(44,105 posts)Or maybe she knows what she's doing.
aocommunalpunch
(4,356 posts)Just wow. Fuck Republicans.
onenote
(44,105 posts)aocommunalpunch
(4,356 posts)And my fucking opinion is that not hiring ALL Democrats is poor judgment, yea. Tell me again how I should vote.
onenote
(44,105 posts)aocommunalpunch
(4,356 posts)I already fucking voted for her on a straight party ticket, so thanks for the permission. I think you can hire all Democrats and not lose a single goddamned vote.
onenote
(44,105 posts)And it's not about losing votes, its about gaining votes. And I'll respectfully disagree with you that her pledge to hire a republican won't gain her a single vote. I suspect it will gain her quite a few. She obviously thinks so.
angrychair
(9,562 posts)Obama spent 8 years bending over backwards for Republicans to the point it was embarrassing and it got him nothing.
There are no "good" Republicans. Fuck them. I'm not going to be lectured by ANYONE to support a fucking Republican for anything. I wouldn't piss on a Republican if they were on fire.
I have watched them year after year belittle Black and Hispanic people, calling the thieves and rapists and violent and not real citizens. I've watched vote against every single damn policy that could help people, even their precious Cheney and Kinzinger and those other worthless assholes.
For the love of everything that Democrats are cheering Republicans on DU is is blowing my damn mind
onenote
(44,105 posts)You seem to have a purity test under which you don't seem to want their votes.
angrychair
(9,562 posts)Is people that haven't spent their entire adult lives trying to undermine democracy.
For the love of everything, these people spent every damn second in office trying to undermine Democrats and democracy.
The only reason they don't like TSF is because he is saying the quiet part out loud.
I mean when Adam Kinzinger was in office he voted with Trump 90% of the time
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/adam-kinzinger/
Liz Cheney voted with Trump 93% of the time
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/liz-cheney/
Just in 2019 Liz Cheney accused Democrats of killing babies after they are born
These people are not our friends. They are not our allies.
Think. Again.
(16,608 posts)You're just being silly.
Jmb 4 Harris-Walz
(578 posts)partisan crap. We must eradicate the MAGAts from the congress first and foremost. It wont be done in one election.
BigMin28
(1,359 posts)negotiate when one side refuses to come to the table and have a reasonable discussion. Democrats can be mature from here to eternity, but the magats, and yes, the republicans are unwilling. I remember the negotiations over the Affordable Care Act. They screwed us blue.
betsuni
(27,232 posts)BigMin28
(1,359 posts)Was a concession made from the beginning.
betsuni
(27,232 posts)it couldn't get the filibuster-proof 60 votes on the Democratic side. Zero Republican votes.
Think. Again.
(16,608 posts)We must "eradicate" the republican party if we ever want to get this nation on a healthy, positive path forward.
JohnSJ
(95,424 posts)Think. Again.
(16,608 posts)We can no longer afford to tolerate that kind of public support for those kinds of dangerous and hateful ideals.
JohnSJ
(95,424 posts)actively campaigning against those who support trump.
This is about winning an election for preservation of our democracy, and pushing out those republicans who are against everything trump stands for is not a smart strategy, especially since this election is so close.
The OP made a perfect suggestion, appoint him to VA. Absolutely nothing wrong with that, and may very well help us with the never trumpers who are undecided whether to vote for Harris-Walz.
I trust the Harris-Walz campaign strategy.
Think. Again.
(16,608 posts)...this about the moral and ethical standards of our entire society.
trump has turned the republican party, as a whole, into an enemy of our Democracy and our nation.
He is their chosen candidate, if he is what they want to represent them, it's clear that they all have to go.
JohnSJ
(95,424 posts)Think. Again.
(16,608 posts)...that pandering to people who want to end our Democracy by offering political favors just to get votes is what will win us this election.
JohnSJ
(95,424 posts)going to appoint someone who supported the insurrection or Trump.
Think. Again.
(16,608 posts)...and therefore publicly stands in support of the republican party, for which donald trump is the candidate.
Chasing Dreams
(506 posts)Kamala is a hawk, particularly on Russia and Iran, and there is little daylight between her foreign policy priorities in 2024 and those of Liz Cheney. And after nearly a decade of Putin support of MAGA isolationism, the Ukraine invasion, and election interference, well Ive become pretty hawkish myself when it comes to fighting back against Russian oligarchs.
Walleye
(34,553 posts)Kaleva
(37,830 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(3,819 posts)Fuck Republicans. Seriously, simply not being a traitor does not make you a hero. These people are diametrically opposed to everything we stand for policy wise. Theyre not our friends, they would NEVER include a Democrat in their cabinet or as an advisor or any of that.
Yeah, thanks for your support and all but go run in your own party.
Think. Again.
(16,608 posts)"Yeah, thanks for your support and all but go run in your own party off a short pier."
BlueTsunami2018
(3,819 posts)Zipgun
(210 posts)And vocally endorsed the Vice President would be acceptable depending on position. Like not secretary of Labor
Think. Again.
(16,608 posts)Solly Mack
(92,153 posts)He's doing it already. Excellent job.
Think. Again.
(16,608 posts)Solly Mack
(92,153 posts)MaryMagdaline
(7,639 posts)MaryMagdaline
(7,639 posts)jalan48
(14,234 posts)These are the fuck-wads that supported stealing the 2000 election for George Jr. WTF is going on?
Cartoonist
(7,474 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(18,685 posts)In what position, I am unsure. Kamala would know best.
Definitely someone who wants to see a strong Democracy where there is consensus. Not all Republicans are bad. Just the MAGAts in Congress.
Think. Again.
(16,608 posts)Klarkashton
(1,347 posts)Gore1FL
(21,686 posts)You can't bipartisan with fascists.
femmedem
(8,426 posts)Nor are the many other Republicans who have endorsed Harris.
I disagree with them all on nearly every domestic policy, but they are not fascists. I believe that giving at least one Republican a place in the cabinet helps break down the hatred people of both parties currently have for members of the other party, and can play a small part in rebuilding a non-fascist, pro-democracy Republican party.
Gore1FL
(21,686 posts)I can't think of a single one I would trust with any power.
Other than being offended by January 6, they have nothing to offer.
aocommunalpunch
(4,356 posts)Theyre not goddamned children. They can appeal to Americans and do the necessary adulting. Fuck Republicans.
femmedem
(8,426 posts)Last edited Wed Oct 16, 2024, 09:20 PM - Edit history (1)
Our country will be safer and stronger when the MAGA spell breaks. They're willing to put country before party despite all our other differences, and we should be, too.
marble falls
(61,005 posts)biophile
(269 posts)Hes been a rational R - and any one who did actually vote for impeachment. But I would not have overtly stated that I would give an R a position at all. Let it be a true gift and a surprise.
Think. Again.
(16,608 posts)I'd vote for allowing them overtime for that.
hunter
(38,786 posts)Obviously.
hunter
(38,786 posts).
IcyPeas
(22,444 posts)JHB
(37,330 posts)Last edited Wed Oct 16, 2024, 06:28 PM - Edit history (1)
A hard NO to Cheney. Remember, she'd accused Democrats of supporting the killing of babies after birth (I can link to video if you want), and she's never rescinded those remarks.
If we really need a "name" Republican, maybe Kitzinger, but maybe find one who left the party BEFORE Trump, who recognized what a dumpster fire the GOP had become before they elected a walking dumpster fire. And not anybody who needed January 6 to convince them to oppose him.
dweller
(24,634 posts)And thats only if they play nice in her 1st term
sort of a trial run
✌🏻
jmowreader
(51,256 posts)Newhouse has five advantages here.
1. He's a moderate Republican who has beaten MAGAts.
2. He voted in favor of impeaching Trump after the Capitol attack. He also voted aye on the Respect for Marriage Act.
3. He's a good choice for Secretary of Agriculture because he has a degree in Agricultural Economics from Washington State University and he runs a successful 600-acre farm. He grows hops, tree fruit and alfalfa.
4. There's no risk of people claiming President Harris is trying to subvert the balance of power in the House because Washington's 4th Congressional District, which he represents, is so far to the right there have been two Republicans on the general election ballot more than once. (Just so you know: Washington uses a "jungle primary" system for all offices except president where the top two in the primary, regardless of party, advance to the general election.) If Rep. Newhouse is made Secretary of Agriculture, WA-4 WILL send another Republican to replace him in Congress.
5. While very competent as an elected official, he keeps a very low profile. Most people haven't heard of him. He doesn't go on TV and spew extraneous bullshit like, say, Marjorie Taylor Greene does. He goes to work, does the people's bidding and returns home. This is why he may not want to do it - he doesn't seem like the kinda guy who wants to do the Sunday-morning talk shows.
tulipsandroses
(5,942 posts)Republicans have been fighting against aid for black farmers.
ecstatic
(34,147 posts)I do not want any more republicans heading up anything that might require holding republicans accountable, so that rules out DNI, homeland security, AG, FBI, etc.
Kaleva
(37,830 posts)As she's already decided to include a Republican in her cabinet, I'm not going to get worked up about it.
dgauss
(991 posts)Nobody believes bipartisanship is anywhere in our near future or that this move will change that in any way. I think it about the possibility of maybe getting a few more of those "undecided" votes. Even if it's a tiny amount. It won't have any impact on her administration if she wins.
gibraltar72
(7,617 posts)Department of coincidences.
Fiendish Thingy
(17,774 posts)Easy choice, he can only help, not hurt there.
bluestarone
(17,949 posts)tulipsandroses
(5,942 posts)Strong advocate for Veterans' Mental Health.
Very logical choice. She fulfills her promise and I don't think democrats should be pissed about someone that has a history of being an advocate for vets.
Politicub
(12,270 posts)Hes charming in his own way.
Mysterian
(5,157 posts)No republican at VA. Really bad idea.
Fiendish Thingy
(17,774 posts)Kinzinger stood on stage at the DNC with all the vets in congress- hes a vet and has shown his integrity.
What are you afraid hell do? Congress sets his budget.
Mysterian
(5,157 posts)If he had any integrity, he'd be a Democrat by now.
Fiendish Thingy
(17,774 posts)If so, which dept. should have a Republican secretary in the cabinet in the VA.
BTW, You didnt mention what your specific concern about Kinzinger at the VA was.
Mysterian
(5,157 posts)Thanks for asking.
sakabatou
(42,831 posts)DFW
(56,223 posts)Lauren Boebert for Secretary of Masturbation?
Or am I out of line here?
**if anyone really ends up passing this on to the Harris/Walz campaign, you did NOT get this from me!
Shrek
(4,068 posts)haele
(13,317 posts)One of the few good things Kinzinger takes seriously is the VA, so I'd trust him with a VA Administrator post.
Riggle is good on Cybersecurity.
I would thank Liz Cheney for her service to democracy and leave it at that. Her main focus is sane washing old school Globalist/Reagan Republicans so they can get back to their trickle down policies and anti-commie BS.
Haele
betsuni
(27,232 posts)This will help win the election.
Um, Republicanism isn't contagious.
Thrill
(19,258 posts)Hes dangerous. A smart Republican, that isnt ugly inside and out like the rest of them, can come back to bite down the road.
alarimer
(16,457 posts)NO to Republicans in the cabinet. They are utterly fucking worthless (unless they know how to empty the trash, which they probably don't).
I realize she is just pandering and that's okay, I guess. But I have no use for bipartisanshit.
krawhitham
(4,823 posts)Mysterian
(5,157 posts)There might be some republicans with a shred of conscience remaining, but none of them belong in the cabinet.
angrychair
(9,562 posts)I don't want people that want raped 10 yr olds to have their rapist's baby
That want to mass deport Black and Hispanic people
That want to treat LGBTQ+ people as 2nd class citizens or worse
That want to force women to bleed to death in hospital parking lots.
I want no one that enabled the Reagan or Bush or Trump to be in a position of power over my life.
That Democrats are crowing to be ruled by Republicans is gross
JohnSJ
(95,424 posts)politically and to get a different perspective.
The ultimate decision is up to the President.
bucolic_frolic
(46,266 posts)I think the former GOP crowd should expand their base of leaders beyond Ms. Cheney and Kinzinger. 2 people don't make a party.
JCMach1
(27,911 posts)Music Man
(1,539 posts)Jose Garcia
(2,785 posts)Sadhuji
(1 post)There may be so many people, who may be republican, morally excellent to work in a Human governmental administration, nearly all of whom I, and millions others, do not know of. Yet, perhaps Jack Smith, how about as Attorney General.
doc03
(36,409 posts)kacekwl
(7,386 posts)joking about members who are on Putin's payroll. Except it wasn't a joke and there are more than one who is a traitor to the country. Republicans know who they are and are fine with it. These people aren't who I want in government especially when Republicans will spend the next 4 years opposing every move President Harris makes if she wins. I may be wrong but you know, history.....