It's about MSNBC's Steve Kornacki

[AverageOldGuy]

Am I the only person who is tired of Kornacki and his constant efforts to degrade Harris???

He's a bullshit artist.

[XanaDUer2]

1. What did he say

[marble falls]

6. Just seeing him start his pseudo-nerd dance repells me.

[whathehell]

66. My question as well..

and I've yet to see one answer in what appears to be an appalling hatefest..

[EmmaLee E]

101. Numbers are his game - I've never seen him lead us astray.

[Hope22]

2. He was particularly awful last night.

It’s been years since I could stomach him. To me he’s just a tool that stirs the pot for the network. Can’t watch him!!!

[The Unmitigated Gall]

37. Agreed. Pot-stirrer, horse-race proponent.

Can't stand to watch him and his weird arm movements. Kind of reminds me of the Wickersham Brothers in "Horton Hears A Who".

[LiberalArkie]

39. They are all wanting to be like Maddow and get the big pay check.

[whathehell]

62. Again..Can ANYONE tell us what he actually said?

to supposedly berate or diminish V.P. Harris?
Information that actually
backs up the shitstorm might be useful.

[ShazzieB]

79. I'd like to know, too!

Won't somebody please tell us? Give us a hint? Something?

I've never really understood the Kornacki hate or where it comes from, but I have seen more than one case of people interpreting something he said in a way I considered inaccurate.

If someone can't give us a video clip (because I'm not taking anyone's word for this), I'm going to write this off as just more of the same.

[whathehell]

113. Surprising that virtually no one even asked what

Kornacki said before jumping on the Hate Wagon.
I never "got" the hate on him
either. I find him hard to follow because I'm not a stat person and he talks very fast. That said, I never heard him say anything indicating bias, either. You said that you've thought people misinterpreted what he said..Can you give me an example or two?.. I ask because I'd like to know something of what he's said, since I honestly couldn't quote him if my life depended on it. Thanks.

[ShazzieB]

114. I couldn't quote him if my life depended on it, either! 😄

I wish I could give you a specific example, but I don't have one. It's more of a general impression I've gotten that some people don't like the way he factually reports whatever numbers are coming in with a lot of energy and enthusiasm no matter which side seems to be winning. If he thinks it's not looking good for a Democratic candidate, he'll simply say so, not because he's rooting against them, but because those are simply the facts at that point in time.

Personally, I think that's fine, but I suspect some people would like him to be more of a cheerleader for the Democrats and express more of an emotional reaction to what the board is showing. I don't think that's how he sees his job, though. He is focused on the numbers, and he's there to report on them, period.

Unfortunately (and in my opinion unfairly), I think that some people may be mistaking the objectivity that he sees as part of his job for a lack of concern about whether Democrats are winning, and it's rubbing them the wrong way.

That's my theory, for whatever it's worth. I have no idea if I'm right, snd if anyone has an alternate theory, I'd be very interested to hear it.

[marble falls]

3. I loathe Kornaki. I hate his whole act. From the rolled shirt sleeves and caffeiney bobbing and weaving on.

[brush]

4. It's so obvious he's a rethug. And where does he get those numbers he so revels in posting on that big board?

We're all just supposed to believe them because he touts them?

No. He's just another trump supporter.

[Polybius]

109. If he's a Republican, he's crazy

Kornaki is gay, and the Republican Party openly discriminates against them.

[onecaliberal]

5. :

[hlthe2b]

7. My disdain was at tolerable levels early on when he wore typical khakis. Now it correlates with his shit brown chinos

A perfect correlation...

[Botany]

8. Kornacki is why Jesus invented the mute button

[MissB]

17. wish I could rec your post a brazillion times

[Botany]

102. Go ahead and recommed my post a million times

Or send whatever you can to 2 women running
for Congress. They are 100% bad asses.
Mary Peltola in Alaska and Kiley Adolph in Indiana. Smart and tough they are the future

We XYs have fucked things up so it is time for the XXs to get bizzz EEEE .

I just love the idea of old white prejudiced men
having to deal with the likes of the K-Bomb ,
.... she is 2 questions in front of you. I predict
massive strokes & heart attacks.

OK I had a gummy .... don't judge me

[Ursus Rex]

21. I also have disdain for his "I'm a geek, look!" costume

... so I have to use a couple of other buttons.

[NEOH]

9. Just another corporate media shill

Kornacki is just another corporate media presstitute. Always been that way. Pleasing his billionaire bosses…

[SocialDemocrat61]

10. He's a white male

and probably sexist. He was the same way about Clinton in 16.

[rsdsharp]

71. I suppose he could be sexist, although I haven't seen it, but he's gay.

[NCDem47]

75. I don't know this as fact, but he throws off Log Cabin Republican vibes.

I recall reading that he was very tortured in coming out to himself. Not that being gay has ANY bearing on his political leanings or likeability as on-air talent.

[SocialDemocrat61]

83. Being gay

doesn’t preclude him being sexist.

[rsdsharp]

98. I believe I said that. I don't believe you've stated why he's sexist.

“He’s a (white) man,” isn’t going to cut it.

[SocialDemocrat61]

99. His dismissive coverage of

Hillary Clinton back in 16. One time, he was throwing out all kinds of accusations against her. David Corn tried to respond to them and he wouldn’t let Corn speak.

[rsdsharp]

105. Kornacki was interviewing Korn? I've never seen him interview anyone.

[SocialDemocrat61]

106. He was filling in for another host

He use to do that before he became the polls guy

[Polybius]

111. He turned out to be right in some of that coverage where he said that Clinton could lose

He's a stats guy, and sometimes says some stats that we don't want to hear.

[SocialDemocrat61]

112. Not what I'm talking about

During the whole campaign, starting in 15, he was highly critical of Clinton and acted like her emails was the worst scandal in history.

[servermsh]

11. I tell everyone to not watch Kornacki

He is the very epitome of horserace politics.

He's also not very bright. There are far better analysts elsewhere.

[Fiendish Thingy]

12. Kornacki is the best in the business at real time election results analysis

He and his big board are essential to knowing where remaining votes are coming from and the history of the county/precinct being discussed.

I haven’t noticed an anti-Harris slant to his reporting, though I don’t have MSNBC on 24/7 either.

Some clips I have seen of him reporting on poll results, he just parrots the info the pollster has released, without much critical examination, although he does seem to mention the MOE pretty consistently.

He doesn’t bug me.

[LAS14]

24. I agree. I'm getting tired of this knee-jerk animosity toward...

... the main stream media. Where would we be without it?????

[Silent Type]

27. Same here.

[EmmaLee E]

100. Thank you!

[Silent Type]

25. Liked him in 2020 when he informed us hourly how far we were behind BUT also how many blue votes were not counted.

Got me through the days before election called.

[Coexist]

36. Yup

[Coexist]

30. I think he really *is* a nerd and that is just how he dresses, and he is the genesis

of discussing county by county results and how they compared to prior cycles, and the data analysis that rolls down from there.

I've never noticed a bias. He may have been encouraged to horse-race it a little, but we all do stuff in our jobs, that we have to.

He's smart, he knows his shit, he's prepared on election night, and I have no beef - only respect, for the man.

[LAS14]

33. Well stated. nt

[TheProle]

40. Agreed

Would also like to see what evidence some folks have that a gay journalist from the East Village is a trumper.

[TommyT139]

65. Yep. Sweet story link below

https://www.out.com/news-opinion/2014/04/16/straight-gay-world-steve-kornacki-msnbc

[elleng]

54. Thanks

[uponit7771]

60. Agreed, before the election he's stoking and its unprofessional at best

[johnnyfins]

61. Im with you

If you are crazy enough to watch election day/night results like it's pro sports, then Kornacki is the man. No one does it real time like that guy. Nerd, fake nerd or whatever.

[Ocelot II]

70. It's his overcaffeinated style that drives me nuts - he's so hyper

that I can't watch him for long, so I have no idea what, if any, bias he expresses.

[ShazzieB]

82. I agree.

SO GLAD to know I'm not the only one!

[MadameButterfly]

115. I'm really floored by this anti-Kornacki thread

He's a numbers guy, not a pundit. nothing Republican about this. And what does gay have to do with any of this? Do I care?
He helps those of us who can't wait for the actual result understand what is likely coming. He's good at it, usually on the mark.
I've never seen bias on any candidates. It appears he's rooting for the Democrats, but he won't give us a rosy picture just to make us happy.
With all the slanted biased reporting out there you guys have picked the one guy who isn't

[RidinWithHarris]

13. I haven't listened to Kornacki recently, but when you say "constant efforts to degrade Harris"...

...what do you mean? I've never heard Kornacki say anything degrading about any candidate, unless you consider things like "has a tough challenge here" and "will be tough to win there" to be "degrading"?

Is that your beef? If Kornacki isn't providing you with warm fuzzies you crave about Harris being practically unbeatable then he's "degrading" her?

[msongs]

22. some people seem to think he should talk like a harris spokesperson lol nt

[LAS14]

29. Exactly.

Often the complaints about "the mainstream media" sound like complaints that the media tries to maintain a neutral postion. Not at all easy when one of the party's has thrown out any regard for truth or norms. I'm very grateful that they continue the struggle.

[live love laugh]

72. So you think the mainstream media does a good journalistic job then?

[LAS14]

26. Hear, hear!!! nt

[Coexist]

32. I haven't heard it

shrug

[TwilightZone]

42. That pretty much nails it.

As I said below, he says things that people don't want to hear. I haven't seen this overt bias that some are claiming, and I've been watching him for a long time.

There also seems to be a bit of anti-intellectualism baked into some of the comments. I would have thought we'd leave that kind of thing to the other side.

[milestogo]

108. There are none.

Its just hyperbole.

[kimbutgar]

14. When he comes on I switch the channel

As we get closer to the election I’m going to limit my msnbc tv viewing and watch my recorded late night comedians and the Daily show.

Kornacki gets on my last nerve and I don’t like his horse race reporting bs when it comes to saving our democracy from a fascist crazy monster!

[comradebillyboy]

110. The Food Network and the Cooking Channel are

my safe spaces for escape from annoying analysists.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

16. All I saw was a math geek talking about numbers.

How did he degrade her with the segment he was just on?

[whathehell]

91. Your question has been asked several times here

and as yet, NO one has answered...It makes me feel as if I'm in a substance free hate zone..
Someone actually claimed to "loathe" him, offering only his "rolled up sleeves" and 'caffeiny' bob and weave style for reasons. I was surprised only by the fact that he didn't, like many others, mention his Khakis as yet another reason for the ill will.

[Drum]

18. SO tired of Kornacki hype

[Ursus Rex]

19. My wife likes him bc she's a stats person.

I don't like anything about his schtick/on-air persona. I change the channel every time I see his face, and he's been creeping into a couple of sports shows, like a toe fungus to another shoe.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

31. I'm a stats person too who likes to listen to him.

I won’t go as far as saying I personally like him. I would have to see if he is a Republican or not. I tend to think anyone who is a math geek tends to be logical and not swayed by emotions or the bs that Trump is spewing.

[TwilightZone]

44. He's been doing sports analysis for years.

NFL, the Triple Crown, three Olympics, and other NBC and NBC Universal stuff.

[lamp_shade]

20. I love him on election night.... only.

[Quiet Em]

23. I have never like him

He's a complete turnoff. There's an ick factor with him.

[Faux pas]

28. Nope

I can't stand him or his baby diarrhea color pants 😤

[doc03]

34. As soon as he comes on I switch channels in the time it.

takes to hit the remote. He reminds me of George Castanza as Coco.

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[Funtatlaguy]

35. He is a Log Cabin Republican.

[TwilightZone]

47. Source?

I've seen this claim made a lot, but I can't recall ever seeing any legitimate confirmation of his political affiliation.

The only overtly political thing I can recall seeing is that he was upset when Clinton beat local favorite Tsongas in the Dem primaries in 1992. He was 12 at the time.

[Funtatlaguy]

84. He stated it. Don't have link where

He says he’s a Republican.
He does say he’s gay in this link.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Steve-Kornacki

[TommyT139]

90. Context? Rough date?

[TwilightZone]

92. Sure, he did.

Whatever. If you can't back up your assertions, don't make them.

I know he's gay. His coming out was public on Salon more than a decade ago. That's quite well known, but maybe you were late to the party.

My post said nothing about that part of your post, by the way, though your deflection is noted and curious.

[Funtatlaguy]

97. I heard him. Screw you.

[TommyT139]

88. I searched

On DuckDuckGo, "Steve kornacki" and "log cabin republican" -- and another search using "log cabin Republicans" (plural). The first search brought up a handful of links, all but one from here on DU, and all but one of those written by the poster above. The other link was a bio of SE Cupp (who evidently worked with Kornacki at one time) -- and oddly, she is a Log Cabin Republican.

For the plural form, there was nothing new -- only longer news pieces where Kornacki's name was in a list of news that included Melania getting paid $273k to appear at an LCR event.

So, yeah. Sources -- other than this site -- welcome.

[TommyT139]

74. Also interested in a source

[Deuxcents]

38. He's a bean counter..a numbers guy who is probably a nerd but he is on top of it.

I personally am not a big fan of his but he’s there for the information so I put up with him

[TwilightZone]

41. He says things that people don't want to hear.

For many, that's all it takes. Facts can be messy sometimes.

Curious how many people personally attack him, though. Seems to happen in every one of these threads.

[BigDemVoter]

43. SICK of him and have been for a long time.

[scipan]

45. I don't see anything substantive from the people who don't like him.

I really don't care what color pants he wears, as long as he gives me good information, which he always has whenever I watch him.

[TwilightZone]

51. The shots at his appearance are curious.

And his personal life.

Not sure what either of those have to do with his job performance.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

46. I change channels or mute the TV when Korncki is on

[BluenFLA]

48. To Kornacki this horse race BS is porn to him

You could tell he gets off on this disecting of polls.

His shtick wore off to me years ago. Just mute him or change the channel.

[LauraInLA]

93. I actually want stats people who are in love with the numbers, obsessed with them, passionate about them.

[rubbersole]

49. I've had bone spurs that were easier to take than this corporate pos.

[Oopsie Daisy]

50. I've never liked him. He's too hyper. Very manic. He's annoying and he makes me nervous *

* he's they guy that I'd avoid being near at the office. At a social gathering I'd exit whatever room he was in and socialize elsewhere.

Is he on drugs?

[MontanaMama]

52. I can't tolerate Kornacki for a thin minute.

I've never heard him degrade any particular candidate. I HAVE heard him play the horse race game non-stop. It is insufferable.

[elleng]

53. I didn't watch last night.

I've never noticed him 'slanting' the news/facts for or against any candidate.

[whathehell]

55. WHAT did he say??

This question is being asked for the 2nd time..Hopefully, this time it will receive an answer.

[TwilightZone]

69. Good luck with that.

As someone else said in the comments, there's rarely anything substantive behind these types of claims.

[whathehell]

73. One shouldn't need "luck" to get sinple corroboration,

for a claim, especially when it seems to inspire the kind of vitriolic hatefest I'm seeing here.

[TwilightZone]

94. Oh, I agree completely.

It's just that posts like this rarely provide context or follow-up, but they sure get attention.

[whathehell]

107. In the past, people routinely asked for links on DU..

Now, it seems, one needn't even get the quote of what was SAID in order to start a hate fest about it...Not a good look.

[Lonestarblue]

56. He is just too frenetic for me. I prefer someone who is calm, rational, and doesn't do jerky movements.

[disappearingboy]

57. He's a numbers guy. A bean counter.

His antics only contributed to my anxiety during the 2020 election. A lot of "if this happens, but if this happens" type of stuff.

He's a more excitable Nate Silver.

[aeromanKC]

58. I love Kornaki!!

Don't shoot the messenger. He's just reporting what the data says. I love the sportscaster schtick he uses. He's much better than either of the CNN guys. Can't say anything about the Fox person. That network is banned in my house.
But Kornaki is always a must watch for me. The data pisses me off somethings, but it is what it is.

GOTV and let's make this a done deal!!!

[peppertree]

76. Hear, hear.

His style may be a little manic - but he's professional, objective, and hard-working as all get-out.

You don't see that combination in too many political analysts anymore.

[TomSlick]

89. Kornaki knows the facts and reports them.

He may show that he loves his job too much but he's good at what he does.

[robleb]

59. As soon as they cut to him.....

I cut to another network.
TIred and really don't think he is that good in what he does and I find him tiring.

[PortTack]

63. Have NEVER liked the guy! To full of himself

[TommieMommy]

64. Yes yes yes 👍 I agree with you

[mdbl]

67. I quit watching him since 2020 with his stupid horse-race crap

It was just so annoying.

[Ocelot II]

68. He's so hyper I can't bear to watch him at all, so I don't know

what he's been saying lately. When he turns up these days I just change the channel because I always got so stressed out just watching him flailing around and jabbering like he was recorded at 33-1/3 and played at 78.

[Paladin]

77. Can't stand him.

With all his Kamala-trashing, he must be trying for a job at the NY Times...

[Dock_Yard]

87. CITATION NEEDED !!

What did he say that was "Kamala trashing"?

Find a damn clip and post it. Because I don't believe this accusation for a NY minute.

[ebird16]

78. Kornacki

When Kornacki shows up, I change the channel. I am sick of his old tired schtick. He is annoying and boring at the same time. He is a one-trick pony. He gets paid to make the election seem like a horse race to keep ratings up. Automatic channel change for me.

[TwilightZone]

96. This election is a horse race. So were the last two.

The claims that this isn't a close race have no basis in fact at present.

[SouthernIrish]

80. I like him

When saying that he promotes the horse race,if he commented that the Dems had it in the bag, it could cause some people not to vote. They may think that since it is a done deal, why bother?

As for attacking his clothing, I think that is childish and just plain ignorant. We sure wouldn't put up with anyone commenting on how females dress, so shouldn't we show the same courtesy to males?

There are a lot more important things going on in the world than this.

[ancianita]

81. I gotta say you're not wrong.

I can't agree about the "bullshit artist" part, and he seems to have a busy, somewhat 'okay' history in tv and internet journalism, but I've detected a bias in his numbers interpretations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Kornacki

[NotHardly]

85. He's a typical pseudo-intellectual and smerky-face ... hate him.

[barbaraann]

86. This segment three days ago with Kristen Welker just about made me want to jump off a cliff.

Where do I start? Kristen seems almost orgasmic about Trump's improving numbers. She and Steve equate Trump's unfavorables with Kamala Harris's unfavorables--like fascism's negatives are comparable in any universe to democracy's unfavorables. Almost every statistic is presented as dooming Harris and the one bright spot for Kamala (change) is shrinking. Several ways of showing indicators mean Trump is likely to win. Abortion has never before been a deciding factor. ETC ETC ETC Oh, and has anyone ever seen Steve Kornacki get dramatic and flail around about the horrors of fascism or the dangers of white supremacy?

[barbtries]

95. i haven't watched him for ages.

his frantic delivery distracts me. so apparently he's an mcp as well (ancient acronym from the 70's womens movement)?

[bullimiami]

103. I overheard him last night for 2 minutes. Obnoxious.

Made up a whole story line from their one crappy poll.

[vapor2]

104. Heck no, I usually turn him off and sick of his BS