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MineralMan

(147,220 posts)
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 12:43 PM 17 hrs ago

How Can People Hate Other People They Don't Even Know?

I've never understood that. They might hate people who look different than they do. They might hate people who do not speak the same language they do. They might hate people who have different body parts than they do or who use those parts differently.

They might hate people who don't worship the same deities as themselves, or who worship no deities at all They might hate people who treat other people differently than they do. They might even hate people who drive a different kind of car than they do, or support some different sports team, for goodness' sake.

Somehow, I can't hate someone I don't even know. I can only hate people I do know if they are hateful to others. And even then, I'm going to cut them some slack in hopes they stop doing that. I can hate people who harm other people out of blind hatred. I do hate people who do that.

But, I have to think long and hard before committing to hating anyone. I have to have full justification for that emotion. Hate is a self-destructive emotion. It is best avoided altogether.

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How Can People Hate Other People They Don't Even Know? (Original Post) MineralMan 17 hrs ago OP
In most cases it's called prejudice....... Lovie777 17 hrs ago #1
I think part of the reason they hate, other than the fact that it feels good, is that it puts them in a club Walleye 17 hrs ago #2
Some people need a scapegoat. applegrove 17 hrs ago #3
Nixon said, "Others will hate you . . . John1956PA 17 hrs ago #4
Tribalism, it's been going on for thousands of years. jalan48 17 hrs ago #5
Hunter-gatherers first launched violent raids at least 13,400 years ago Jim__ 16 hrs ago #13
Thanks for the article. We've been brutalizing one another for a long time jalan48 15 hrs ago #30
It will be nice to get back to life BT, before trump. pwb 17 hrs ago #6
Seems like it's generally easier to hate (and fear) those one doesn't know 0rganism 17 hrs ago #7
Exactly. TomSlick 16 hrs ago #18
It's the only way for some to feel good about themselves. chowder66 17 hrs ago #8
I'm with you, I don't understand blind hatred. lees1975 17 hrs ago #9
Fear. They've been persuaded that those *other* people will cause harm to them, Ocelot II 16 hrs ago #10
"You've Got to be Carefully Taught" NameAlreadyTaken 16 hrs ago #11
You beat me to it! NT susanr516 14 hrs ago #33
People are not born to HATE, they are TAUGHT or TOLD who to hate. ProudMNDemocrat 16 hrs ago #12
"Now, I don't hate anybody, cloudbase 16 hrs ago #14
That's the main reason they hate. GaYellowDawg 16 hrs ago #15
Beats me. -misanthroptimist 16 hrs ago #16
It's pretty easy. maxsolomon 16 hrs ago #17
I don't know trump, but I HATE HIM krawhitham 16 hrs ago #19
Message auto-removed Name removed 16 hrs ago #20
You are back again! sheshe2 15 hrs ago #23
... littlemissmartypants 15 hrs ago #24
Tee hee hee 😉 sheshe2 15 hrs ago #25
Message auto-removed Name removed 14 hrs ago #31
Hello !! Back again I see. GP6971 14 hrs ago #32
Hate destroys your center. haele 16 hrs ago #21
Darwinian ethnocentrism: It has served a purpose for most of our human history: Tribal preservation lindysalsagal 16 hrs ago #22
If you think you need to hate other people randr 15 hrs ago #26
It is entirely trivial to hate people you don't know. Voltaire2 15 hrs ago #27
How do you feel about people that take your rights away? Freethinker65 15 hrs ago #28
Help me understand. FalloutShelter 15 hrs ago #29
The most important aspect of hate is fear. Ping Tung 14 hrs ago #34

Walleye

(34,553 posts)
2. I think part of the reason they hate, other than the fact that it feels good, is that it puts them in a club
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 12:48 PM
17 hrs ago

They’re comfortable being with people who hate the same people they do. It’s like a family. It may be their only true connection to other humans. It’s all very baffling, especially since they drummed up hatred against Joe Biden, honestly the nicest person you would ever want to meet.

Jim__

(14,392 posts)
13. Hunter-gatherers first launched violent raids at least 13,400 years ago
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 01:23 PM
16 hrs ago

This study from ScienceNews supports your claim. A short excerpt:

More than 8,000 years before the rise of Egyptian civilization, hunter-gatherers went on the attack in the Nile Valley.

Skeletons of adults, teens and children excavated in the 1960s at an ancient cemetery in Sudan known as Jebel Sahaba display injuries incurred in repeated skirmishes, raids or ambushes, say paleoanthropologist Isabelle Crevecoeur and her colleagues. The site, which dates to between 13,400 and 18,600 years ago, provides the oldest known evidence of regular, small-scale conflicts among human groups, says Crevecoeur, of the University of Bordeaux in France.

Although people buried at Jebel Sahaba don’t show signs of having fought in a one-time battle, they participated in an early form of sporadic warfare, the researchers conclude May 27 in Scientific Reports.

“Repeated violent episodes were probably triggered by well-recorded environmental changes” around the time people were buried at Jebel Sahaba, Crevecoeur says.

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jalan48

(14,234 posts)
30. Thanks for the article. We've been brutalizing one another for a long time
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 03:12 PM
15 hrs ago

“Repeated violent episodes were probably triggered by well-recorded environmental changes” around the time people were buried at Jebel Sahaba, Crevecoeur says.

This doesn't bode well for us given the current climate crisis we are going through.

pwb

(12,132 posts)
6. It will be nice to get back to life BT, before trump.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 12:58 PM
17 hrs ago

I already have. I love everybody. I voted and will accept the results and move on.

0rganism

(24,478 posts)
7. Seems like it's generally easier to hate (and fear) those one doesn't know
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 12:58 PM
17 hrs ago

With notable exceptions, to know someone is to chance sympathy or understanding, both of which can really get in the way of a solid hate session.

It's almost as if hate is something a mature person would rather avoid

chowder66

(9,721 posts)
8. It's the only way for some to feel good about themselves.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 01:01 PM
17 hrs ago

It also makes them feel like they have power (to sit in judgement of others).

lees1975

(5,465 posts)
9. I'm with you, I don't understand blind hatred.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 01:13 PM
17 hrs ago

I was raised in a very conservative, Christian faith, and while the rhetoric was "love your neighbor" and "love your enemies," the actions were hate anyone who doesn't agree with your doctrine and set yourself apart as some kind of exclusive guardian of your church against its enemies. And you can do that and believe God is on your side and cheering you on because you got it right.

Blind hatred is a symptom of personal insecurity.


Ocelot II

(119,692 posts)
10. Fear. They've been persuaded that those *other* people will cause harm to them,
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 01:18 PM
16 hrs ago

their communities, their standards, their money, whatever. The (mostly brown) immigrants will flood the country in order to murder children, rape women and steal jobs (while also living off welfare - the conundrum of Schrödinger's Immigrants). Jews will hoard all the money. Black Americans will riot and burn down our cities. Muslims are anti-Christian terrorists who have declared jihad on the suburbs. Feminists want to abort all the babies and become men. Democrats want to turn the government Communist and send everyone to collective farms where they will sleep on dirt floors and be paid in potatoes. And so forth. If you fear someone that much you're gonna hate them - and the anger arising from hate is exciting because it makes you feel like a righteous, unfairly persecuted victim.

GaYellowDawg

(4,769 posts)
15. That's the main reason they hate.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 01:25 PM
16 hrs ago

Because they don't know them, they fear the unfamiliar, and they hate what they fear. Much easier to dehumanize what you don't know.

I like to think that most people, once they get to know someone in a demographic they have previously hated or feared, realize that almost all of us have more in common than not. When that happens, the stranger is no longer strange, and isn't feared to nearly the same extent.

-misanthroptimist

(1,102 posts)
16. Beats me.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 01:33 PM
16 hrs ago

I mean, I'm human so I must have the capacity for hate. But I seem to lack the attention span. Instead, I just remove that person from my presence and, when possible, my thoughts. There's too much else to do and too many good people in the world to waste my time with that hate nonsense.

Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Response to sheshe2 (Reply #23)

haele

(13,317 posts)
21. Hate destroys your center.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 02:05 PM
16 hrs ago

I try very hard not to hate.

I have no enemies, except for those who are actively trying to harm me, and even those, I try not to hate.
Maybe dis-respect. Maybe intentionally avoid. Maybe get disgusted at. Maybe judge negatively against or actively work against. But not hate. Hate itself makes me physically ill.

Haele

lindysalsagal

(22,192 posts)
22. Darwinian ethnocentrism: It has served a purpose for most of our human history: Tribal preservation
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 02:09 PM
16 hrs ago
https://engl2523.wordpress.com/2021/02/18/charles-darwin-the-ethnocentric-beginnings-of-evolutionary-theory/

Explains religion.

But as our planetary resources dwindle, we can't afford this lower-brain thinking anymore. We've all got global communication in out pockets and on our tv screens. We need to get over it, for sure.

Voltaire2

(14,585 posts)
27. It is entirely trivial to hate people you don't know.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 02:56 PM
15 hrs ago

Which is why it is the favorite organizing principal for fascism.

Freethinker65

(10,912 posts)
28. How do you feel about people that take your rights away?
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 02:58 PM
15 hrs ago

How do you feel about the people that vote for people that promise to take your rights away? How do you feel knowing many of those voters delight in knowing people like yourself will suffer because of who they voted for?

Ping Tung

(1,149 posts)
34. The most important aspect of hate is fear.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 03:46 PM
14 hrs ago

Late into my 4 year employment in the USMC Vietnam replaced Cuba as the main bogeyman that we were supposed to kill. I had been paying attention to the international news and read up on the history of Vietnam. There was much talk about from the bosses and we were being prepared by lectures about the Dirty Commies, falling dominoes, and every crime imaginable by "Them" the new enemy.

It was at the rifle range that the fact that some of the targets were silhouettes of men. And it struck me that these were actual people that I was supposed to kill.. People I didn't know. People that didn't' know me. People I had nothing against. People I might like if I met them. Why in the hell should kill such people just to shine up LBJ's anti-Commie creds?

It was my first real steps to becoming a pacifist.

My enlistment was up 6/29/65. They asked me to re-enlist, offered me another stripe, and being stationed wherever I wanted. All I had to do was become willing to kill people.

Nope. I added my opinions to the Gunny Sergeant trying to get me reenlist of extend my enlistment.

I didn't kill anyone. I had some friends whose enlistments weren't up. Their names are on that wall they built to salve their consciences.

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