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David Corn: Hey, NY Times, what would you call that "form of government"? Just wondering. (Original Post) Dennis Donovan 18 hrs ago OP
There's a word for it... it's right on the tip of my tongue... Oopsie Daisy 18 hrs ago #1
Hey Whore NYT -- I will give you a hint. It starts with "fac" and ends in 'ism'. OMGWTF 18 hrs ago #2
"Fas..." nt Wednesdays 18 hrs ago #6
As in BaronChocula 16 hrs ago #29
And there's a "s" in between the two extremes... Justice matters. 18 hrs ago #7
You're going to have to do better than that with the now right leaning (or at least tRump leaning) NYT. usaf-vet 17 hrs ago #15
And rhymes with not see Clouds Passing 16 hrs ago #19
I don't have a problem with Factism, but I absolutely cannot stand Facism! Abolishinist 16 hrs ago #26
Hint Lucky Luciano 10 hrs ago #36
Call it by its name!!! hedda_foil 18 hrs ago #3
First thing that came to my mind was dictatorship. calimary 15 hrs ago #30
NYT has published several recent articles on this. They didn't coin a new term for trump's blustering, though. Silent Type 18 hrs ago #4
What The Magistrate said. Kid Berwyn 18 hrs ago #5
His words of wisdom live on. Thank you. erronis 18 hrs ago #9
They cannot say the f-word. And no, that is not 'fuck'. nt. Voltaire2 18 hrs ago #8
Rhymes with schmacism RealityBasedNewYorkr 18 hrs ago #10
It's called Dementia-stan epreic01 18 hrs ago #11
Trump's plan goes far beyond very different and less democratic. Wake up NYT and smell the rot. Martin68 18 hrs ago #12
He could call it fascism and still not lose his core supporters and saying LT Barclay 17 hrs ago #13
Thank you, David Corn. BadgerMom 17 hrs ago #14
Good on Corn Figarosmom 17 hrs ago #16
I'm offended that they blithely attached the word "American" vanlassie 17 hrs ago #17
It's the OTHER "F word" markbark 17 hrs ago #18
On the other hand, Nixon DID have his "enemies list." DFW 16 hrs ago #20
Yes he was also an American Fascist. Voltaire2 7 hrs ago #37
Very true DFW 5 hrs ago #41
Even Nixon didn't want to be president forever. MadameButterfly 5 hrs ago #39
Nixon was handed a second term on a silver platter DFW 5 hrs ago #42
He had some help from his Ratfuckers MadameButterfly 4 hrs ago #43
Not "far less democratic," but simply "NOT DEMOCRATIC." Beartracks 16 hrs ago #21
Vengence is mine sayeth something something... czarjak 16 hrs ago #22
Seems to me that King George CCExile 16 hrs ago #23
The madness of King George.. BattleRow 16 hrs ago #25
Yet King George was typical of monarchs MadameButterfly 5 hrs ago #40
Gutless NY Times BoRaGard 16 hrs ago #24
Gee whiz! Being offered the choice of something very different! How exciting! Think. Again. 16 hrs ago #27
F*ck the NY Times awesomerwb1 16 hrs ago #28
Nor do I. soldierant 7 hrs ago #38
This is "sanewashing" carried to the point of gaslighting. nt The Unmitigated Gall 15 hrs ago #31
Ooooo! Ooooo! Pick me! orangecrush 13 hrs ago #32
i give up on corporate media! barbtries 11 hrs ago #33
TY & David Corn! Cha 10 hrs ago #34
"The Paper of Record" Just Jerome 10 hrs ago #35

Justice matters.

(7,399 posts)
7. And there's a "s" in between the two extremes...
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 12:11 PM
18 hrs ago

Just in case they still don't get it...

Clue: That "s" is for "swastika" in case they still won't get it. (And they won't.)

usaf-vet

(6,736 posts)
15. You're going to have to do better than that with the now right leaning (or at least tRump leaning) NYT.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 12:47 PM
17 hrs ago

It seems they have chosen their path forward. I hope they are wrong.

Abolishinist

(1,787 posts)
26. I don't have a problem with Factism, but I absolutely cannot stand Facism!
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 02:15 PM
16 hrs ago

Judging people by their looks is not cool, unless of course they're MAGAts.

I will give you a hint. It starts with "fac" and ends in 'ism'.

Silent Type

(5,967 posts)
4. NYT has published several recent articles on this. They didn't coin a new term for trump's blustering, though.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 11:58 AM
18 hrs ago
Here's results from quick search.

Trump Escalates Threats to Political Opponents He Deems ...
The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › U.S. › Politics
13 hours ago Never before has a presidential nominee openly suggested turning the military on Americans simply because they oppose his candidacy.


Trump Steps Up Threats to Imprison Those He Sees as Foes
The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › U.S. › Politics
Sep 9, 2024 — And during his term as president, he repeatedly pressed the Justice Department to open investigations into his political adversaries. But as ...


As President, Trump Demanded Investigations of Foes. He ...
The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › U.S. › Politics
Sep 21, 2024 — He has threatened to target his perceived enemies if elected again. A look at his time in the White House shows how readily he could do so.


The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › U.S. › Politics
Sep 27, 2024 — Former President Donald J. Trump threatened Friday to prosecute Google if he was elected to the presidency a second time.


Here Are Cases of Trump Rivals Who Were Subject to ...
The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › interactive › 2024/09/21 › t...
Sep 21, 2024 — Those who found themselves under government scrutiny after alienating President Donald J. Trump ranged from the former F.B.I. director to a ...


Video: As President, Trump Demanded Investigations of Foes ...
The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › video › politics › how-trum...

Michael S. Schmidt, a New York Times investigative reporter, explains how Donald Trump used his power as president to intimidate and punish his rivals.
The New York Times · 3 weeks ago

Trump Threatens Lawyers, Donors and Others With Prison ...
The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › U.S. › Politics
Sep 7, 2024 — Former President Donald J. Trump on Saturday threatened a wide range of people, including lawyers, political donors and operatives, with prosecution if he wins ...


What Will Happen If Trump Wins the 2024 Election?
The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › U.S. › Politics
Oct 8, 2024 —

Kid Berwyn

(17,504 posts)
5. What The Magistrate said.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 12:00 PM
18 hrs ago

"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

epreic01

(202 posts)
11. It's called Dementia-stan
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 12:15 PM
18 hrs ago

We’re not going back, we’re not going there, we’re not going anywhere. I will not go to Dementia-stan, I will not go there I’m A mer i can.

Martin68

(24,306 posts)
12. Trump's plan goes far beyond very different and less democratic. Wake up NYT and smell the rot.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 12:16 PM
18 hrs ago

And we're not in Denmark.

LT Barclay

(2,697 posts)
13. He could call it fascism and still not lose his core supporters and saying
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 12:31 PM
17 hrs ago

it out loud would probably draw in more business people.
Sadly that’s where we are, denying it only delays mounting an adequate response.

BadgerMom

(2,923 posts)
14. Thank you, David Corn.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 12:31 PM
17 hrs ago

I’m glad my dollars aren’t lining Sulzberger’s pockets any longer. Wordle isn’t worth it to me.

vanlassie

(5,885 posts)
17. I'm offended that they blithely attached the word "American"
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 01:18 PM
17 hrs ago

to Trump’s plan. It is “American Carnage” not “American government.”

DFW

(56,223 posts)
20. On the other hand, Nixon DID have his "enemies list."
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 01:57 PM
16 hrs ago

It consisted mostly of people who criticized him or his administration. He didn’t get around to rounding them up or killing them, but that was probably due to the last vestiges of his Quaker background, a burden from which Trump was freed before he even began.

Voltaire2

(14,585 posts)
37. Yes he was also an American Fascist.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 11:19 PM
7 hrs ago

However the other two branches of government held the line.

We are in a much worse situation.

DFW

(56,223 posts)
41. Very true
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 01:19 AM
5 hrs ago

With Nixon, neither the Supreme Court nor a monolithic bloc of sycophantic know-nothing Republicans in Congress were willing to rubber stamp every last outrage stemming from Nixon and his corrupt gang. With Trump, the Supreme Court and the Congressional Republicans ARE his corrupt gang.

DFW

(56,223 posts)
42. Nixon was handed a second term on a silver platter
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 01:24 AM
5 hrs ago

You don’t steal an election when you carry 49 states.

In 1973, it became clear what we had done to ourselves, and bumper stickers stickers started appearing from Provincetown to Northampton saying, “don’t blame me—I’m from Massachusetts.” Massachusetts was the only state Nixon did NOT carry in 1972.

MadameButterfly

(1,395 posts)
43. He had some help from his Ratfuckers
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 01:43 AM
4 hrs ago

including the Canuck letter that eliminated his mosst formmidable opponent, Muskie. They wanted to run against McGovern and that's what they got. He also cheated for the first term, sabotaging Johnson's peace efforts in Vietnam. Just because his duplicitiy was overwhelmingly successful doesn't mean he won fairly. I never said he cheated at the ballot box.

My point is, his highest ambition, by whatever means, was 2 terms. Dictatorship wasn't attractive to even our most dishonest politicians. It took a hollow, narcissistic guy like Trump fleeing bankruptcy and jail to change that.

Beartracks

(13,385 posts)
21. Not "far less democratic," but simply "NOT DEMOCRATIC."
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 02:00 PM
16 hrs ago

Quite simply, a vote for Trump (or any MAGA candidate, really) is a vote against democracy. Not voting or voting third party isn't any better.

Anything less than voting for Democrats on every ballot is a tacit admission that you would still tolerate Republican rule and efforts to change America to a non-democracy, because third party votes and non-votes simply do not maximize your power to ensure that Trump and MAGAs don't get elected.

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BattleRow

(876 posts)
25. The madness of King George..
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 02:11 PM
16 hrs ago

Most recently suggests he was bipolar.
Interesting how symptoms align with King Gorge.

MadameButterfly

(1,395 posts)
40. Yet King George was typical of monarchs
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 01:15 AM
5 hrs ago

of his time. Any king of his era would not have let colonies go without a fight. He really had a medical disorder whether porphiria, arsenic poisoning, or bipolar aggravated by the medical treatments of his day. Before his illness took over he was an intelligent man capable of love of family and country.

Trump was damaged so young he has never understood love or caring of anyone or anything beyond himself.

Think. Again.

(16,608 posts)
27. Gee whiz! Being offered the choice of something very different! How exciting!
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 02:15 PM
16 hrs ago

The nyt isn't even trying to hide their propaganda work anymore.

barbtries

(29,560 posts)
33. i give up on corporate media!
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 07:30 PM
11 hrs ago

I'm not sure but it looks as if the NYT is choosing to stop short of using the words "fascism" "authoritarian" "dictatorship" - and why?

corporatism? oligarchy?

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