Harris is winning 'sleeper demographic' that could spark victory over Trump

[Quiet Em]

“James Carville said on our pod that a sleeper demographic to watch in this race is college educated white men who don’t like what Dobbs means for their daughters and other female loved ones,” Sargent wrote on social media platform X.

The Marist poll, released Wednesday, found that 56 percent of college educated white male voters would be supporting Harris while 42 percent would be backing Trump.

Joe Trippi, a Democratic strategist at The Lincoln Project, also emphasized the importance of this voting group.

“At @ProjectLincoln we call them Dobbs Dads. And they are breaking to Harris. One our most important target groups,” he wrote on X.

https://www.nj.com/politics/2024/10/harris-is-winning-sleeper-demographic-that-could-spark-victory-over-trump.html

I peeked at the poll this morning and noticed she was closing the gap with men. Good men are going to push us over the top and I love it.

[bdamomma]

1. K&R

nt

[yellowcanine]

2. Fathers, brothers, grandfathers, boyfriends all care about reproductive rights.

I was never comfortable making this just about women. It is about women and girls and much more as well.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

10. Well, they should, but far too many of them

think that they should have the final say.

Think of the various men who have tried to sue wives or girlfriends who got abortions.

Until there is mandatory genetic testing to determine the father, and then required child support payments, it really and truly needs to be up to the woman in the end.

[ShazzieB]

35. It needs to be up to the woman in the end, period.

Yes, far too many men think they should have control over the destinies of any eggs they fertilize, and those men need to get over themselves.

Women should be in control of their own bodies, no matter what. Being able to conclusively prove paternity is a very useful tool for many reasons, but it should not have any bearing on who has the "final say." I assume that you did not mean to imply otherwise, but I felt that needed to be said.

The issue of bodily autonomy is first and foremost, and it is always (and only) the woman whose bodily autonomy is at stake. End of story.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

40. Thank you for pointing out that I may have inadvertently

implied something I did not attend.

No, in the end it is up to the woman and the woman only.

[EmmaLee E]

17. I have never understood why men have been ignored in this issue

All Democratic campaigns should target "real men" as husbands, fathers, boyfriends.
Reproductive rights affect them too.

[littlemissmartypants]

27. It's about the economy, too.

Look for the arguments for this notion and you'll find them.

So many fools focusing on "the economy" as their decision making linchpin are doing it at their own peril if they don't consider the right to choose for women and ALL that entails.

Meanwhile they are Supremely unconcerned about the effects of dicking around with half of the population who happens to control bunches of money plus represents loads of buying power.

Try keeping women barefoot and pregnant long enough and those same individuals will be forced to hunt for discarded aluminum cans on ditchbanks across America just to get their beer money.

[obamanut2012]

3. And, this is a weighted poll to compensate for the slight oversampling of Dems

It was right in 2020 and 2022.

[The Madcap]

4. That's me.

For my wife and daughters, I will never support the orange imbecile.

[berksdem]

13. Same here

[Demobrat]

5. College educated white men are smart enough to realize

they won’t be able to duck out on child support. If you’re a work under the table for cash kind of guy it’s easy. But educated professionals with actual jobs involving W-2 forms end up with garnished paychecks.
They actually can wind up having to pay for the kids they create. It’s different for them.

[jaxexpat]

7. Well, there's still around 42% of them who aren't smart enough to vote Democratic.

I thought our colleges were indoctrinating their students to be liberal sheep more effectively than that. What have they been doing in these schools?

With that much educated stupid around it's always wise to be sure to add the label. So, !

[Demobrat]

14. There's looking out for their own best interests,

and there’s looking out for the greater good. They’re smart enough for the first one.

[MadameButterfly]

43. I'm surprised these are good numbers

I thought college educated men were already majority Democratic. That's why Project 2025 wants to get rid of universities.

42% are voting for Trump AFTER getting an education? How about some critical thinking courses?

[Yavin4]

6. Also, the migrant rhetoric doesn't work on them, and the tarriffs scare them also.

Not every Republican is MAGA. If Trump loses just a small fraction of them, then it's a blowout for Harris.

[Akakoji]

12. The tariffs alone should scare them into realizing Trump is a moron.

The immigration issue should have been resolved but for Trump and it could still be. If they understand the tariff threat they understand that Trump ordered that immigration be source of fear.

[Owl]

21. DonOld purposely misinforms how tariffs work.

He tries to push tariffs as being collected by the government.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

8. Wake 'em up and tell them we need a blue House and blue Senate to fix this Dobbs shit.

[vercetti2021]

9. I wonder what the percent of non college educated women is

Because that's me. A stupid white girl with a GED

[Quiet Em]

20. Also, non college educated white woman here

and my dear sweet former Republican Aunt who didn't get her GED til she hit 50 are joyfully voting for Harris.

But most of our group, sadly, are sticking with Trump and protecting and pampering him like he was their first born. It's so frustrating to see. They are the stupid girls that P!nk was singing about.

[BlueSky3]

30. Any girl or woman on

DU is highly intelligent!

[Pink Hyacinth]

11. The college educated white men in my life

all voted for Harris. That's my husband, my brother and my eldest son.

[NNadir]

31. That's true for my wife's husband and her two sons.

One the sons is in a red state though. Hopefully there are enough like him to turn it purple.

[GB_RN]

15. I Hope This Holds Up.

While I’m a “college educated dad,” I just have one kid, my son. That being said, I have two young nieces, and I don’t want them to grow up and be subjected to the whims of bible-humping asshats.

Screw these assholes. Vote BLUE, no matter WHO! Vote like your life (or sons’, & daughters’ lives, etc.,) depend on it.

[JohnSJ]

16. I hope there is a "sleeper demographic" out there that is being missed by the polls and will be voting in mass for

Harris/Walz.

[epreic01]

18. That's true in my life

I’m a 40 year old white guy in Louisville KY. My Dad is not voting. A number of middle aged to older white men that my partner works with are all voting for Harris. Even his boss that voted for Gary Johnson in 2016. This old man that works at my gym likes my Kamala shirt. He’s always there, but I overheard him in the 2020 Primaries say if Biden got the nomination he’d vote for him and the rest were “too darn liberal”. So it’s interesting that he’d like my shirt now.
Not that this matters, but driving around Louisville I’ve seen 2 Trump signs. The rest have been flags that have been in the same peoples yards since 2016. I’ve seen probably 50 Harris signs. Most in the most liberal neighborhood here, but even where I live that is a sold red area of Louisville the Harris signs outnumber Trump flags.
Last, my parent have a houseboat in Tennessee. In 2016 almost every boat had a Trump flag that summer. It made me want to drown myself. I went in August and there were 3. I don’t think a last of signs or flags means those people aren’t Trumpers anymore. But I do think it means they’ve lost the enthusiasm.

[Politicub]

22. Any father who would

strip the right to body autonomy from his own daughter is not a father at all.
He’s a scummy sperm donor without a conscience.

[ChazInAz]

23. That's my group.

We don't hang out in rural diners, wasting our time.

[Upthevibe]

24. Kick. N/T

[ananda]

25. She is mounting the most brilliant campaign I've ever seen!

Everyone on her team is outstanding and seem to know
exactly what to do when.

Lovelovelove

[Doodley]

26. The very idea that Republican men should tell women what to do about their bodies! Don't they understand that if

men kept their dicks in their pants, there wouldn't be a pregnancy! It takes MEN and WOMEN, so why do these men think they should take away a woman's right to make her own decision? How dare they use their power to control women? How dare they dictate, preach, demonize, and denigrate women and deny them essential medical care? By the way, I am a guy.

[Prairie Gates]

28. I don't think I've seen as much the vitriol toward Trump among College Educated Male friends before

They lead the way in criticizing Trump this cycle. Real anger and annoyance. I don't like Carville generally, but I think he has his finger on this one. It's wholly accurate in my experience.

[Quiet Em]

29. Most men don't really align with Trump

and they are fed up with Trump assuming they do.

[Prairie Gates]

32. Unfortunately

Most of my non-college educated male friends are hardcore Trumpies now...



Hopefully, the spell breaks.

[Quiet Em]

33. awww, well here's hoping that once the election is over

and he loses bigly, they realize it was just a fad and Trump is neither cool nor popular, and they'll give you a call and tell you "You know, I always kinda thought he was a jerk."

[TBF]

34. I think it's still a mixed bag here in TX -

A lot of professional folks (both genders) are sick of the chaos and convinced that Harris can hold down the fort. But these are doctors, finance folks, etc. The evangelical crackpots of many stripes seem determined to stick with Trump - they think he's a gift to them directly from their God.

[BaronChocula]

36. I think there are a few sleeper demos

including the republican women former gopper Rep. Barbara Comstock said would crawl over glass to vote against trump. Also the republican women who will defy their maga husbands in the voting booth.

I also have a feeling most of the defiant young black men not listening to the women will come around.

[Elessar Zappa]

38. Re: black men.

In 2020, we heard the same bullshit about black men migrating toward Trump. But when it was all said and done, roughly the same percentage voted Dem that always did.

[BaronChocula]

42. Here's hoping

I'm in that phase of cutting down on media intake because I think it's creating (another) anxiety I don't need. I go from optimistic to worried in spite of all the good positive Dem trends I counsel others to look at. I don't even recall feeling this way in 2020.

Thanks for letting me vent.

[maxsolomon]

37. What was the proportion of CEWM who voted Biden over MFer?

56:42 in 2024.

? in 2020?

[Skittles]

39. real men should not vote for rapists either

no indeed

[TomSlick]

41. We old college educated white men should vote like our granddaughters' rights depend on it.

Because they do!