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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHeather Cox Richardson on JD Vance (one of her best)
After writing about Trump's inability to coherently answer questions during an interview with Bloomberg News's editor-in-chief, Heather Cox Richardson points out that Trump is now so incompetent that a Trump presidency would inevitably become a Vance presidency.
Her description of Trump's answers, including his telling the moderator that he's "been wrong his whole life on this (economic) stuff" is eye-opening. But I think her description of what J.D. Vance and Peter Thiels want is even more important.
Like Thiel, Vance has spoken extensively about the need to destroy the U.S. government, but while Thiel emphasizes the potential of a technological future unencumbered by democratic baggage, Vance emphasizes what he sees as the decadence of todays America and the need to address that decadence by purging the government of secular leaders. A 2019 convert to right-wing Catholicism, Vance said he was attracted to the religion in part because he wanted to see the Republican Party use the government to work for what he considers the common good by imposing laws that would enforce his version of morality.
Their worldview requires a few strong leaders to impose their will on the majority, and both Thiel and Vance have rejected secular democracy. I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible, Thiel wrote in 2009.
In 2021, Vance called American universities the enemy and said on a podcast that people like him needed to seize the institutions of the left, and turn them against the left. In a different interview, he clarified: American conservatives
have lost every major powerful institution in the country, except for maybe churches and religious institutions, which of course are weaker now than theyve ever been. Weve lost big business. Weve lost finance. Weve lost the culture. Weve lost the academy. And if were going to actually really effect real change in the country, it will require us completely replacing the existing ruling class with another ruling class
. I dont think theres sort of a compromise that were going to come with the people who currently actually control the country. Unless we overthrow them in some way, were going to keep losing. We really need to be really ruthless when it comes to the exercise of power, he said.
The whole piece is well worth reading. https://open.substack.com/pub/heathercoxrichardson/p/october-15-2024?r=a1fq7&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
lastlib
(24,565 posts)Mussolini on steroids. If we don't destroy these Effers NOW, we will pay a horrendous price. I'm beginning to really like the concept of wealth redistribution.
Ocelot II
(119,692 posts)and remind everybody that with Trump glitching more and more every day, chances are close to 100% that if he won, Vance would be president within a year, either because Trump croaks or because he's been 86'd back to Mierda-Lardo via the 25th Amendment. And Vance is no improvement - he's just as horrible but in a much more organized way.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(26,329 posts)to practice their religion.
yourout
(7,915 posts)Vance would be sworn in.
al bupp
(2,286 posts)We must strive not only to prevent this iteration of Christo-Fascism from succeeding, but foils its further attempts by making palpable the promises of an alternate approach that makes the wealth of society more widely available and seeks always to level the playing fields.
mjvpi
(1,533 posts)Good one!