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WhiskeyGrinder

(23,585 posts)
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 08:48 AM 21 hrs ago

All evidence points to Robert Roberson's innocence. Texas still plans to execute him.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/10/16/robert-roberson-texas-death-row-innocence-claims/75490456007/

Robert Leslie Roberson remains scheduled to die by lethal injection on Thursday despite all evidence indicating that he was wrongfully convicted for the death of his 2-year-old daughter Nikki in 2002. At the time, investigators saw what they wanted to see: shaken baby syndrome. In reality, little Nikki had pneumonia in both lungs, she had pre-existing conditions for which she was prescribed opioids that are now banned for children, and she had undiagnosed sepsis.

That's according to Brian Wharton, the former police detective who led the investigation and subsequent arrest of Roberson. Wharton, now an ordained minister in the United Methodist Church, spoke with USA TODAY's The Excerpt podcast in a candid conversation about errors in the case and what should be the proper course for Texas.

"I was wrong. I didn't see Robert. I did not hear Robert," Wharton said. "I can tell you now, he is a good man. He is a kind man. He is a gracious man. And he did not do what the state of Texas and I have accused him of."

(snip)

The Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles is weighing whether to recommend clemency for Roberson, and Republican Gov. Greg Abbott could intervene.
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All evidence points to Robert Roberson's innocence. Texas still plans to execute him. (Original Post) WhiskeyGrinder 21 hrs ago OP
How do you spell Texas - A S S H O L E S walkingman 21 hrs ago #1
The death penalty is barbaric Easterncedar 21 hrs ago #2
My opinion of the Death Penalty? I would rather a guilty person spend haele 20 hrs ago #6
K&R Solly Mack 21 hrs ago #3
Would it be too much to ask the courts... -misanthroptimist 20 hrs ago #4
One problem in states like TX is that convictions are incredibly difficult to overturn. TwilightZone 20 hrs ago #5
That's because anyone not in Abbot or Paxton's buddy circle haele 19 hrs ago #8
Did it before Blue Full Moon 19 hrs ago #7
IIRC that is not an uncommon belief which was also held by Antonin Scalia BTW. Disaffected 19 hrs ago #9
Well guess that would work well for a dictator Blue Full Moon 17 hrs ago #10
Yes but I think it had its roots Disaffected 13 hrs ago #11

Easterncedar

(3,114 posts)
2. The death penalty is barbaric
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 08:55 AM
21 hrs ago

That the system, OUR system, can knowingly choose to murder an innocent person is beyond horrifying.
That’s how much we are a Christian, pro-life nation.

haele

(13,317 posts)
6. My opinion of the Death Penalty? I would rather a guilty person spend
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 10:12 AM
20 hrs ago

Life incarcerated than an innocent person be killed.

The guilty person is still out of the world not causing more pain to others, but the innocent person is still alive to be freed when the truth comes out.

A life can easily be taken, but it can never be given back once taken.

Blood lust is not justice. IMO, it's an overdose of endorphins that often occurs to people who are in a state of hurt shock (part of the fight part of a fight or flight reaction); in a similar manner, it's a predatory reaction - a thrill - that sociopaths seek out.
I'll give one guess how the guy currently sitting at the Texas governor's desk feels when it comes to state executions.

Haele

-misanthroptimist

(1,102 posts)
4. Would it be too much to ask the courts...
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 09:23 AM
20 hrs ago

...to stop states from murdering people who are innocent of the charges against them? It doesn't seem like it would take much effort.

TwilightZone

(27,212 posts)
5. One problem in states like TX is that convictions are incredibly difficult to overturn.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 10:08 AM
20 hrs ago

Once a conviction is handed down, the appeals process is rarely about guilt or innocence. It's often more about procedure and law and "Texas Justice" as Abbott calls it. We do have a "junk science" law that could help overturn the conviction, but Abbott is hellbent on executing as many people as possible.

haele

(13,317 posts)
8. That's because anyone not in Abbot or Paxton's buddy circle
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 10:22 AM
19 hrs ago

Is automatically guilty of something.
That's a common Nationalist/Dominionist viewpoint.
If you aren't part of the group of elders or elite, your worth decreases by your usefulness to the elders until you're considered vermin unbelievers or political opponents that can be killed for sport - "some people just need killin' ".
The benefits of the rule of law only apply to those in the in-group.

Haele

Blue Full Moon

(727 posts)
7. Did it before
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 10:17 AM
19 hrs ago

They used a so called expert for the trial. The experts opinion was debunked and they murdered the man anyway.
I have heard several republicans say that even if a person is proved to be innocent that they were found guilty and the sentence must be carried out regardless.

Disaffected

(4,950 posts)
9. IIRC that is not an uncommon belief which was also held by Antonin Scalia BTW.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 10:53 AM
19 hrs ago

The rational apparently is that overturning a conviction in the light of new evidence only would, ironically, bring into doubt the legitimacy of the justice system, this having to be avoided no matter what the cost.

Disaffected

(4,950 posts)
11. Yes but I think it had its roots
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 04:50 PM
13 hrs ago

way back in English Common Law so it's not all that radical in an historic basis. IIRC generally the only grounds for appeal of a conviction lay in procedural or judicial errors, not in evidence.

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