The real reason the buses stopped at Coachella? The angry mob attacked the bus drivers.

[tinrobot]

Ran across these on the Coachella Valley subreddit about what really happened with the buses :

I know multiple people that worked there that night as bus drivers. The real reason they stopped shuttling them was for safety. One of the male drivers was punched in the face and had to go to the hospital and one of the female drivers had someone spit on her (ironically she's a huge trump supporter.) They were all apparently pounding on the bus windows and just generally out of control but I guess that's what happens when you go to a hate rally.

And then this was one of the responses:

My father was attacked at a rally

He works for the bus company that was doing transportation for the rally in Coachella. The rally didn't think about the logistics of 15k people and the buses weren't enough.

People got angry and began to riot. Throwing themselves in front of buses, banging on the windows and doors, and attacked two bus drivers. (One female driver was spit on by an elderly woman. The woman had to be restrained by another person from grabbing the driver by the hair)

The other driver was my father. He is a veteran and served in Vietnam and has head trauma from the war and from an car accident years ago...he was sucker punched from behind the head while he was walking outside his bus. He has a broken nose and hopefully his prior head trauma isn't worsen but won't know until some time. (He did get a CAT scan) He didn't see who hit him and he lost vision temporarily in his right eye (it's back now).

I just cannot understand this cult of violence and hate. My dad is 70 and what a coward to hit someone from behind because of something that was not my dad's fault.

The news didn't report this and even riot police showed up because of this behavior with the buses...

Just had to vent and get this off my chest. I just am angry and sad at the state of our political climate

https://old.reddit.com/r/CoachellaValley/comments/1g3p123/the_actual_reason_trump_supporters_got_stranded/

So, it was the angry mob that stopped the buses. Hope some news outlets pick up on this.

[gab13by13]

1. This will be the only place this is reported,

Except, Nicolle Wallace will cover this today.

[Wiz Imp]

23. That's because it isn't true - this is likely completely made up

[krkaufman]

52. Which could, itself, be reported.

Either way, there’s a story there.

[quakerboy]

59. You mean like most things trump says, which are given ample media attention?

Or like the things Vance says which are picked up and amplified until even people who arent on much media start hearing them?

[Wiz Imp]

64. There's a big difference between reporting something the candidate for President says vs. something

some random nobody on reddit says. If there is/was any evidence this actually happened, the media would absolutely report it.

[soandso]

72. It's an obvious LARP

I don't know what happened with their stupid buses (they were late and people were irritated?) and sure as hell didn't watch this rally but I can't understand why it's still being talked about and why anyone cares.

[quakerboy]

120. There isnt that much difference between

What trump says and what any internet kook says. They quite often coincide, or rather copy eachother, both directions.

And.. Would they? It sure seems like theres not much reporting on negative events at trump rallies unless he makes it a thing.

[Wiz Imp]

122. Right - there isn't much difference in what they say

The difference is who is saying it. Trump being who he is (for better or worse) is going to get attention for it. Some random nobody on the internet - nobody cares what they say. That's the advantage that Trump and others in power have - they can get their lies amplified so they get gullible cult members to believe them, but it also eventually will attract fact checkers - at least for the most outrageous lies.

[Klarkashton]

60. When the whole bus thing was reported the other day

Somebody on here said it didn't happen too.

[Demsrule86]

97. Really what an er interesting post.

[The Roux Comes First]

105. It Could Be, of Course. Do You Have Any Independent Information, or Even a Suggestion of Where Such Might Be Found?

[Wiz Imp]

107. It's extremely difficult if not impossible to prove something didn't happen

On the other hand, if something as is alleged here actually did happen, it should be very easy to prove. Video, social media posts, police reports (riot police supposedly called), news reports, etc.- there should be tons of potential sources to confirm this reddit post. As of this minute (3 days after this supposedly happened) there is still absolutely nothing to be found on the internet that even hints that something like a riot against bus drivers occurred except for this post by a complete nobody on reddit. Not even a follow-up from the original poster on reddit.

[slightlv]

109. With the specifics that can be checked by those with access to hospitals, etc.,

I kinda doubt it was made up. Too specific; too much in line with who these people are. Did the magats start because there weren't enough busses and that's what kicked them into riot mode? Maybe. But that's who these people are in their heart of hearts (as tho they had one). Just told my husband THIS is what we can expect WHEN Harris wins.

[Wiz Imp]

116. Huh??

"With the specifics that can be checked by those with access to hospitals, etc.," is exactly why it is almost certainly made up. If it happened (and as you say we have specifics that can be checked) then it should be really simple to verify. Yet, here we are 3 days later and not a single hint on all of the internet that such a thing occurred except this single post from some random nobody on reddit.

Just because it's in line with preconceived notions of something that the MAGAs would do, is not any kind of evidence that it actually happened. Hey, I totally believe myself that these people are certainly capable of doing such a thing, but common sense tells me if it happened, there would be some evidence of it beyond a single random reddit post.

[slightlv]

118. Iow...

A lie that can be checked is less likely to be a lie, on my experience. The only exception I've seen is Ts words.

Plus to me these seems like perfectly acceptable normal maga behavior. Unless proven otherwise, im gonna hold out as very possibly true.

[Wiz Imp]

119. Go ahead and believe what you want

Me, I see people posting and saying false things that can be easily checked every day, whether it be on Twitter, Facebook, Reddit or any other social media site. People do it to get attention and to see how many gullible people they can get to believe their false postings. Your only exception is Trump? Hell the entire Republican party publishes, recites, and says in public easily provable lies every day. And it's not just the republican party - check out any fact checking organization or Snopes and you will see them exposing rather big lies many times every day. It's like I said in response to something else the other day - we need to do a better job of teaching critical thinking skills in this country. Critical thinking skills and common sense tell you something shouldn't be automatically believed just because it fits some preconceived notion of behavior - you need evidence. No matter how closely something fits that preconceived notion of behavior, without evidence it all but guarantees that same something did not happen.

[spooky3]

128. Here is a news org that says a driver told them they were assaulted.

https://ktla.com/news/california/attendees-describe-absolute-chaos-after-trumps-southern-california-rally/amp/

[3auld6phart]

70. Thanks

You’re right my thoughts exactly. Basically end of story. There is little hope for the maggots, . Losers, all.. Vote Blue all the way

[Lovie777]

79. It's hard to fathom the 15K .............................

something is not right.

[Think. Again.]

2. If this is true, it makes more sense than buses just disappearing for the night.

[oldsoftie]

74. What makes MOR sense is Trump didnt pay for the return trips. HE was long gone!

That would be typical

[North Coast Lawyer]

98. Could be both

Could be both. Not paying and rabid raging supporters/cult members aren't mutually exclusive. Both have happened before.

[niyad]

3. Oh Dear Goddess. There are almost no words..

[BootinUp]

4. If the story is just on Reddit, it won't have any

Legs.

[Demsrule86]

100. I googled it at least one bus driver was punched in the head.

[Initech]

5. Totally not surprised in the least!

These are the kind of people that Trump attracts to his cause, after all!

[ecstatic]

6. I think both narratives are true: trump didn't pay for more than 1 or 2

buses to remain after the rally, and then those that remained hauled ass once the mob got violent. There were other reports of the initial buses running out of gas during the back and forth of dropping people off and not being able to find nearby gas stations to refill at.

[littlemissmartypants]

10. Don't busses have enormous gas tanks?

I find it hard to believe fuel was the issue. Since the distance was from the event to nearby parking.
Looking at the map of the area it doesn't make sense.

The 'crowd went wild' explanation feels more plausible to me. More on brand.

But often times it's more likely multiple things will be at play so one never knows.

❤️

[Walleye]

7. When a mob has been saturated with hatred and violence, it has to go somewhere

[Conjuay]

15. If this makes it to MSM

It will be blamed on antifa.

[Zilli]

25. If antifa cannot be blamed then this did not happen.

I expect . . . . . . . . . from the dedicated rw media.

[Walleye]

28. It will definitely get the "both sides" treatment

[BattleRow]

65. Yes,folks will get Trumpled...

[Walleye]

66. That's a good one, and also, ouch

They look pretty packed and tight there. I wonder how many I’ve had their flu and Covid shots.

[BattleRow]

73. Or their rabies shots...probably some rabid

"predators "out there in the desert.

On the other hand,some of the attendees may have gotten their just desserts..as in deserted.

[Norbert]

8. I hope this man's father is okay.

Knowing several Vietnam Veterans like I do, this is very serious and harmful.

I hope this goes out to many of the area bus companies in the US, to accept MAGA events at your own risk, especially for the violence and when there is an increased likelihood you may not get paid.

[enid602]

31. Age

The youngest of the Vietnam vets drafted into the war are now 71. This guy is 70. He could have skipped a grade, but then he’d not likely have attended a Trump rally in the middle of a desert. This doesn’t smell right.

[UpInArms]

32. I have a friend who is

one year younger than me … I am 67 …

He volunteered at 17 … and is now 66 … he is a Vietnam veteran

[padfun]

48. The last draft call was on December 7, 1972

So one would be 70 if they graduated in May 1972.

I am 69 nd am a Vietnam Era Vet. I joined the Navy in November 1973, The draft had ended the year before.
I was never in Vietnam as most of the Navy was elsewhere.

[Dave Bowman]

9. The crazy is strong with these clowns.

[PedroXimenez]

11. here's the Mayor's statement

https://www.facebook.com/CoachellaMayor/posts/pfbid02DfzKc3b5PXCpduAtzEzFAGgVda3wWYPV7HcLxtXCH49BKnu7HZjJkxLQs1SBkWRWl

“The logistical failures of Trump’s rally that left thousands of his out of town supporters stranded is consistent with the failures of his administration and the failures we would get in a second Trump term.”

Mayor Steven Hernandez, City of Coachella

[Wiz Imp]

19. The real true story from an actual legitimate news source

From a local paper - the Orange County Register

https://www.ocregister.com/2024/10/14/trump-coachella-rallygoers-stranded-in-dark-miles-from-their-cars-after-speech-reports-say/

Some key excerpts:

Officer David Torres, a California Highway Patrol spokesperson, said via email that “there were no incidents in this area that CHP handled.”

“There became an issue with the drivers being over hours due to the traffic delays that prevented them from driving, leaving (the sheriff’s department) to transport the visitors themselves,” Torres said, noting the California Department of Transportation limits the number of hours bus drivers can be on the road.

So apparently the bus drivers had driven their legal limit of hours before all people were returned to the parking lots. And the Trump campaign did not make arrangements to make sure there were drivers available to shuttle the attendees back. (Note: this is not necessarily inconsistent with that prior tweet)

County officials referred questions about the buses to the Trump campaign, which did not immediately respond Monday, Oct. 14, to a request for comment.

Seems like confirmation that the campaign screwed up and didn't make sure they would have buses available to return attendees to their cars. This was clearly totally on the Trump Campaign.

[PedroXimenez]

27. Sheriff seems to be working for the Trump campaign

They knew what this was about, they know it's Trump's fault, but refuses to tell the media, and in fact tried to get around the regulations, on behalf of Trump:

“The Riverside County Sheriff Department advised CHP the bus drivers were over hours and asked if CHP could approve for them to work over their hours to transport individuals back to the pick-up point,” he said.

The CHP told sheriff’s authorities it couldn’t approve bus drivers “to violate any federal or state laws, pertaining to driving hours,” Torres wrote.

County officials referred questions about the buses to the Trump campaign, which did not immediately respond Monday, Oct. 14, to a request for comment.

[Wiz Imp]

30. Absolutely

The sheriff is super MAGA.

From June: Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco is throwing his support behind Donald Trump for president, saying in an Instagram video over the weekend, "I think it's time we put a felon in the White House."

[littlemissmartypants]

62. I got that impression...

From seeing his interview, the sheriff. ❤️

[LiberalArkie]

67. Would anything have been reported if the drivers being hurt were black of hispanic? I doubt it really.

[obamanut2012]

84. This dude is a huge Trumper and also a huge protector of Scientology

He is just awful.

[love_katz]

63. The over hours limit makes sense to me

I spent over 23 years driving school buses, and working also as a driver trainer.

I can remember an out of town field trip, where a large number of our drivers transported athletic and cheerleading teams for a regional event. I order to abide by the hours limitation, we had to shuttle multiple relief drivers who would drive the return trips. These kinds of regulations are for safety, to prevent accidents based on driver fatigue.

I can see that tRump's campaign might be to chintzy to pay for the extra drivers, but I would be surprised that the person at the bus company who took the order for transportation didn't say anything. The hours limitation is a common part of both state and federal law, since the drivers have to possess a valid commercial drivers license in order to transport passengers. The federal government is the entity that sets the standards for and regulates the CDL program.

This smells like tRump's campaign expecting to be allowed to break rules and also not paying for the full amount of service required, and then trying to blame the service provider.

I just can't believe that people actually want tRump and the people around him to hold the office of the most powerful person in the world. I know that they're doing it because he promises to punish everyone that they hate, but it's just mind blowing that they can't see that the incompetence, greed and malice will affect them as well.

[spooky3]

129. Here is a news org that said a driver reported being assaulted

https://ktla.com/news/california/attendees-describe-absolute-chaos-after-trumps-southern-california-rally/amp/

There could be multiple reasons for the fiasco.

[Wiz Imp]

130. Well that is the first hint of anything from any source other than that reddit post

It's interesting that the TV station's story talked about the sheriff's office helping transport some people to their cars. Since the TV station obviously talked to the sheriff's office and a bus driver apparently told the station he was assaulted, wouldn't it make sense either for the TV station to ask the sheriff's office about the alleged assault or for the sheriff's office to tell the TV station about it? Shouldn't there be some sort of police report over any assault incident? While it's something, at this point there's still no real evidence that the reddit post was factual. It's curious that the supposed assault is mentioned in passing and there was no attempt to confirm it. If there is truly anything to it, I would expect to see more info very quickly. We'll see.

[Wiz Imp]

137. So here is another story from another TV station which appears to confirm the assault of one bus driver

https://kesq.com/news/local-news/2024/10/15/local-bus-driver-claims-he-was-assaulted-after-the-donald-trump-rally-in-coachella/

So assuming this is true, I must admit I was wrong and the Reddit post was not completely made up. The news story says the driver was slapped by a passenger as he went to help a lady who fell in the back of the bus. He eventually went to the hospital to be checked out. While he mentions some people were getting "unruly" there is no indication of anything like riot conditions. It's unclear when this happened but it's certainly implied it was after 10:00 pm which was well after people started complaining about being stranded. If that is the case then, no, this was not a major reason people were stranded.

I don't understand what this statement means:

"We were on the back end of the transportation, which started around five o'clock," explained the driver. "We were told that no more people were coming to back to the venue from the parking lots past two o'clock, but they didn't hold to that. So the crowds were starting to get bigger and bigger.”

But I think this line offers the key explanation to why people were stranded:

Rally organizers with the Trump campaign used Coach USA, an LA based company, to contract out local drivers. They were originally hired to operate busses between 5:00 and 10:00 p.m.

And as I said before, people were already complaining about being stranded at 10:00. So ultimately, it's clear this whole situation was the complete fault of the Trump Campaign who never made arrangements to make sure there would be enough buses to transport attendees back to their cars. This is gross negligence and indifference by the Trump campaign. They made sure they got as many people to the venue as possible, but couldn't be bothered to care whether the people made it back safely or not.

[SunSeeker]

142. The OC Register is a conservative newspaper catering to Orange County Republicans.

This incident happened at a rich Trump donor's rural ranch. The CHP ("California Highway Patrol" ) deals with traffic issues on highways, this is not their jurisdiction. Weird that the OC Register would even bring up the CHP.

The ranch is in Riverside County and it was the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department that was there.

The bus driver was interviewed by KTLA (a major independent TV station for the Southern California area where I live), who told KTLA that bus drivers were assaulted, that is why they stopped shuttling passengers:

One driver, who wanted to remain anonymous, told KTLA 5 News that he and other drivers were physically assaulted and decided to stop shuttling passengers.

The Riverside County Sheriff’s Office said deputies assisted some attendees by providing rides in their vehicles but deferred questions about the transportation issues to Trump’s campaign organizers.

https://ktla.com/news/california/attendees-describe-absolute-chaos-after-trumps-southern-california-rally/?ipid=promo-link-block1

[BootinUp]

29. Good answer! Top 3 answer. Nt

[Captain Zero]

57. Trump can't even run a shuttle bus service

4 more years as president would be a disaster

[Hela]

12. Self-fulfilling prophecy

Be so nasty nobody wants to help you and pretty soon you get no help.

[Martin68]

13. Just a preview of Trumpian America if he wins the election.

[HariSeldon]

14. Proper headline: "Trump Rally Incites Riot"

Subhead: "Two victims of assault and battery"

SMH

[AZSkiffyGeek]

33. Proper headline: Random redittor makes up a story - gullible people believe it

Subhed - Ignoring mainstream news, people turn to social media for confirmation bias.

[John1956PA]

51. I think the rally was on private property, not the Coachella venue.

Trump liked the idea of appearing near to the Coachella concert venue. In his mind, it gives him the rank of superstar.

[littlemissmartypants]

69. Ironically...

The venue may have been a former manure farm.

When the Trump Campaign says, “Coachella” rally, what they really mean is Calhoun Ranch (red), a former manure farm.

Link to tweet

[littlemissmartypants]

111. There's a date farm close by. ...

The airport is very close. I was told he was afraid to go into town because they hate him there.

It probably was a donated space because we know the crooked, lying, cheapskate, so-called "billionaire" doesn't pay his bills.

The locals are laughing at him because he's going to lose in the state of California. So he need not even come to the state to campaign because he won't get enough votes in California to win no matter how many times he visits.

Everything is a spectacle with him. It's The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight* story over and over. He's surrounded by a cast of kooks and his campaign staff has a combined IQ of -10.

He has to get free publicity somehow. So every venue there's a disruption, an "attempted" assassination, an interloper or someone faints.

It's a manufactured mess designed to call attention to itself because there's nothing else of substance going on with him to talk about.

This would be what we as a nation would have to deal with every day of our lives if he gets elected.

Every damn day he will find some way to INTENTIONALLY fuck something up, cause chaos, or kill someone just to keep his distorted ugly criminal face in the headlines.

The psychopath won't rest until everyone and everything around them is destroyed.

That's the kind of world we're heading for if he is elected. Much worse than being stranded in the desert for an hour or a manure farm overnight.

It's a risk we will kill ourselves or each other just to escape the stress and the relentless day to day to day pandemonium his presidency would create for us. It will drive everyone who pays attention stark raving mad.

'Welcome to the Divided States of Trump Enter at Your Own Risk' will be the signs that you see at every airport and border crossing, scribbled on cardboard in misspelled words, if he wins.

❤️pants

*The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight

The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight is a 1971 American crime comedy film directed by James Goldstone and written by Waldo Salt, based on the 1969 novel of the same title by Jimmy Breslin, which in turn was based on the life of gangster Joe Gallo. The film stars Jerry Orbach, Leigh Taylor-Young, Jo Van Fleet, Lionel Stander, Robert De Niro and Irving Selbst. The film was released on December 22, 1971, by Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer.[1][2]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gang_That_Couldn't_Shoot_Straight

[druidity33]

135. Who farms manure? Whos manure? nt.

[littlemissmartypants]

136. You'd...

Be surprised. And apparently are.

Turkey and chicken manure is a going concern where I am. It is delivered by the trailer loads. Organic fertilizer is in high demand especially during Spring planting.

❤️

[druidity33]

140. But then aren't you farming chickens and turkeys? nt.

[yellowcanine]

16. The bus drivers must have suffered a mental health episode.(Sarcasm!)

You know, like the staff person at Arlington National Cemetery.

[Wiz Imp]

17. Sorry, I call bullshit on this

From that subreddit:

The news didn't report this and even riot police showed up because of this behavior with the buses...

Sorry, but I find it extremely hard to believe that no news outlets would cover the fact that a riot broke out and riot police ere called. And Isn't it convenient that while there is plenty of video of people waiting stranded, there is not a single piece of video showing people rioting? That's because this story is almost certainly made up.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

34. The only source is a random redditor - of course it's b/s

[Wiz Imp]

37. Very disappointing that so many people here seem to believe it at face value

[Kaleva]

38. People believe that which reinforces their world view

[tinrobot]

44. Actually two reditors... but point taken

[Chin music]

49. Pretty sure most criminals don't tape their crimes.

And the ones that did? Aren't going to show them.
After J6? They're wising up. And even wearing masks now. Who knew?

[Wiz Imp]

55. Sigh. Plenty of criminals "tape" their crimes and post them online

It happens everyday.
https://academic.oup.com/bjc/article/57/5/1023/2623886

At first glance, an offender videotaping their crimes seems like a counterintuitive and counterproductive thing to do. After all, when offenders reach for their cameras, they may inadvertently contribute to their own capture and conviction. In all cases discussed in this article, offenders have ended up producing evidence that was later used against them in court. Yet, publicly available Norwegian higher court decisions suggest that, despite the apparent lack of logic, it is becoming increasingly common.

And it's obvious the MAGA mindset would believe they were doing nothing wrong if they confronted bus drivers. There is no doubt in my mind that if this happened, somebody would have posted video at least hinting that something like this could have happened. They didn't because it's a completely made up story.

[Chin music]

95. Sigh indeed.

Of criminals maybe 3% filmed their crimes. You're right. Some do. If millions of crimes happen a day and 3% of them are filmed...you're right...it would look like many.
I disagree w your surmission about everything else. Just my opinion.
Frankly? I don't care what trmpers do. After 10 years? They can all go to hell.
I would like us all to get back to the wonderful, caring, vaguely unified country we seemed to be most of my life.
Until putins puppet showed up.
Good enough?

[ananda]

18. I've talked about the rage behind the hate.

It's the main factor in the way the cult works.

Trump allows them to show their rage and hate.

[BoRaGard]

20. How republicon is that batshit, sucker punching an elderly veteran?

republicons not content to just call America's veterans "suckers and losers,"
now they are physically attacking them.

No respect, no honor. Support the men and women who protect and defend America, keep them safe from violent maga republicon rage freaks, and from demeaning insults from the G.O.P.'s draft-dodging Felon-in-chief.

[LAS14]

21. The localler the reporting the better. Should we be skeptical about Reddit posts? Dunno. nt

[Wiz Imp]

24. I'm pretty sure this is complete bull shit. Somebody trying to get people to read his reddit posts

[Bernardo de La Paz]

39. If it is reporting and not "citizen journalist" made-up bullshit. . . . . nt

[dflprincess]

22. There is also a report that the buses stopped running because

The company hadn't been paid

Sorry, no link. I heard it on Stephanie Miller this morning.

[Wiz Imp]

26. See #19

[Dem4life1234]

35. He attracts the nutjobs

[Zambero]

36. Trump inspires only the "Best" people!

Thank God none of them desert rat Antifas showed up to ruin such a pleasant evening!

[Mosby]

40. Assault and Battery on a person 60+ is usually a felony.

Hope they catch that guy.

[Kaleva]

42. What is your source that this actually happened?

[Kaleva]

41. 137 recs for a story that hasn't been confirmed

No videos posted showing the riot. No legitimate news source reporting on the riot . Yet this gets over a hundred recs.

[Wiz Imp]

78. Sad, isn't it?

[BattleRow]

82. Fair enough..but how many postings about

Vance's sectional obsession?

Was that unequivocally substantiated?

[Kaleva]

89. I think most of us knew that it very likely wasn't true

But we had fun with it. There may have been some here who believed it.

[BattleRow]

94. Agreed,however,there is probably more

truthiness in the Orangelicals wandering in the wilderness.

[W_HAMILTON]

85. And lots all too willing to call it bullshit...

...just like they did when someone posted the initial story about how his supporters were stranded at yet another rally -- which turned out to be true. Were there videos showing them stranded then? If so, why were so many around here willing to call bullshit on the claim then?

Oh well. There's a lot of misinformation on social media -- including when people call accurate information """misinformation."""

[Kaleva]

87. Your argument doesn't confirm this story

[Wiz Imp]

102. Nobody said people being stranded was made up before and nobody said it was made up now.

There are plenty of videos available showing the stranded people in both cases. What people are saying is made up is the idea that there was a riot of Trump supporters beating up bus drivers as the reason for the people being stranded. The misinformation here is the made up story posted by the original reddit poster.

[Hekate]

86. When did Reddit become a reliable source at DU? This really bothers me. ...

So far in this thread we’ve had the Mayor’s comment, and a link to the OC Register.

Yesterday’s Los Angeles Times (Oct 14, 2024, page A5) references attendees lining up in 100 degree heat with little shade and inadequate ice and water, and “multiple medical emergencies.” Representative Raul Ruiz (D-Indio) said Coachella has seen presidents and candidates before (Bernie Sanders, Obama, Ford and Eisenhower, all under various circumstances) but he found Trump’s decision to campaign there “baffling.” Still, attendees drove in from places like Hemet and got to hear Matt Gaetz speak, and they got to hear Trump trash our state and threaten to cut off federal finds for fighting forest fires that are on federal land.

Nothing about a transportation crisis returning from the rally, altho the reporters likely had their own wheels and went straight back to the office to write it up.

note:
I got interrupted for over an hour, so if this turns out to be out of synch, that’s why.
Part of my point is that we have people here at DU who know how to track down the real story — and I hope they do.

[Kaleva]

90. It's good to fact check stories or claims

[uponit7771]

45. ***MAGA VIOLENCE***

[Abstractartist]

54. I read

I read on Reddit, r/inthenews (maybe not reputable) that the reason the buses left attendees stranded was because the campaign ignored payment requests.

If true, then trump and his ilks are responsible for the situation, not the bus drivers…I’m betting the drivers and bus company will bring lawsuits.

[ramen]

56. If this is proven true then I'll believe it, but this is just anonymous rumormongering. Our side is better than this nt

[RussBLib]

58. Could be part of Trump's strategy

...whip his crowds up into a violent frenzy however you can. Then he channels the anger against Dems. He will likely blame Dems in some fashion for the fiasco, and the flames rise.

Fascistic, despicable behavior.

https://russblib.blogspot.com/?m=1

[Klarkashton]

61. This might explain all the flashing cop car lights

That can be seen in the videos of this.

It makes a lot more sense than the bullshit this far.

[Scalded Nun]

68. It is what they do-what they have been programmed (by Trump) to do. Is is all about the hate-fueled adrenalin outrage

This is what Trump is about. He lights some fires, then stokes that flame. He provides some targets for that hate, and then he sits back and watches while the fires burn.

Pure evil.

[C Moon]

75. on edit. Wrong event.

[Figarosmom]

76. Jimmy Kimmel will talk

About it first, then maybe the media will report it. I've seen that happen quite a few times already.

[oldmanlynn]

77. Were is the press in reporting the violence from the MAGAs nfm

[Kaleva]

91. Maybe because it didn't happen?

[Cirsium]

80. Manure farm?

Calhoun Ranch

Nestled in picturesque Vista Santa Rosa, California, Calhoun Ranch is a premier destination for polo enthusiasts and competitors.

Calhoun Ranch is a private polo facility available for lease to polo teams and leagues seeking the perfect location for their matches and tournaments. Whether you want to practice, compete, or manage your own league, our world-class fields and amenities offer the ideal backdrop for memorable polo experiences.

https://empirepolo.com/

[Wiz Imp]

83. It's true

https://hillreporter.com/watch-trump-threatens-then-abandons-maga-crowd-after-coachella-rally
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The rally was staged far from the actual concert site on a former manure farm, Calhoun Ranch, which is owned by Trump supporters who probably let the campaign use their land for free.
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[Cirsium]

88. Yes

I know that it has been reported to be a "manure farm." The owners of the property say otherwise. You might ask yourself what a "manure farm" is. I can assure you that no one farms manure. There are business that process manure, yes.

https://dairydoo.com/

Why does this matter? Because it weakens the effort to stop Trump and elect the Harris/Walz ticket when we throw around sensationalistic and false stories. It makes all of us look ridiculous and gives the right wing operatives a credible basis for dismissing any and all criticism of Trump and MAGA.

Trump may or may not be soiling his pants. There may or may not have been some manure on the polo ground where the Trump rally was held. But really, people? That's all we have?

[Wiz Imp]

101. Manure farming is also called manure managment - and yes it is a real thing

From google:

A manure farm is a farm that manages manure from livestock operations, including capturing, storing, treating, and using it. Manure management can impact farm productivity, the environment, and water quality

Here's a link to a current manure management business/manure farm:

http://www.down2earthfarms.com/manure-managementremoval.html

And nobody said it was a current manure farm. It's a former manure farm. The best I can tell , this location hasn't been a "manure farm" in at least 40 years (hence the word former) but that doesn't mean it wasn't at one time. I can assure you this is not a false story.

[Cirsium]

104. OK

So, some manure processing companies call themselves "farms." The word gets throw around a lot and is used for things that have nothing to do with farming.

When I searched for "manure farms" all I got were manure processing companies.

OK so let's say that 40 years ago there was a manure processing facility there. So what? It is a polo ground now and has bee since 1987. That means a lot of unprocessed manure.

[FirstLight]

133. Santa Rosa is northern California

Nowhere near Coachella

[sl8]

138. *Vista* Santa Rosa is in southern California, close to Coachella. nt

[Cirsium]

139. I know

I know where Santa Rosa is. I know where Vista Santa Rosa is, too.

"Living in Vista Santa Rosa, CA is truly a unique experience. The small town atmosphere provides a sense of community and belonging; the area is surrounded by beautiful natural areas that offer plenty of outdoor activities for people of all ages. From hiking to biking and kayaking, there is something for everyone! The local shops and restaurants provide a great selection of quality goods and services, while the downtown area offers an array of entertainment options. With its close proximity to Los Angeles, there are plenty of opportunities for day trips or weekend getaways. Vista Santa Rosa is a great place to call home, with its many amenities and stunning landscapes. Very large metro area set in the valleys and mountains of California. Primary industries include logistics and manufacturing. - In southern California, 55 miles east of Los Angeles and 85 miles north of San Diego."

https://www.bestplaces.net/city/california/vista_santa_rosa

I hear there are manure farms there.

Come to think of it, "manure farm" would be an appropriate appellation for a lot of the "news sources" that are cited here. After all, they manufacture and distribute BS.

[Wiz Imp]

81. It just now occurred to me, the main tweeter that the media picked up on about this was Wesley Johnson

In one of his tweets he said he thought this was done on purpose by Democrats to incite a riot. And now we have some random nobody on reddit saying it did incite a riot. How convenient.

[2naSalit]

92. Big news outlets had better cover this shit!

[Kaleva]

124. Not if it's fake.

[2naSalit]

126. True...

Has it been disproved?

[Kaleva]

134. Has it been proved? No it hasn't.

There would have been dozens, if not hundreds, of witnesses but, to date, not one has come forward to corroborate the claim that riot police had been sent in to quell the alleged riot. No videos have surfaced nor have any of the local media reported on it .

[Demsrule86]

96. This was not reported by any media that I heard...digraceful...the media lets Trump

Trumpers get away with all sorts of shit.

[Turbineguy]

99. Trump is scraping the bottom end of society.

And getting them angry.

He needs these people to attack the Capitol when he loses.

[Think. Again.]

103. Why the heck were municipal buses being used for a non-municipal event???

Why didn't trump have to hire a private bus company?

[Wiz Imp]

108. Where does it say they were using municipal buses?

[Think. Again.]

110. I think I misunderstood what I read here...

“The Riverside County Sheriff Department advised CHP the bus drivers were over hours and asked if CHP could approve for them to work over their hours to transport individuals back to the pick-up point,” he said.

The CHP told sheriff’s authorities it couldn’t approve bus drivers “to violate any federal or state laws, pertaining to driving hours,” Torres wrote." - https://www.ocregister.com/2024/10/14/trump-coachella-rallygoers-stranded-in-dark-miles-from-their-cars-after-speech-reports-say/


I though that meant the sheriff was asking for permission from Colorado Highway Patrol to allow municipal bus drivers to work overtime.

[Wiz Imp]

113. Yeah. California law limits the hours for ALL commercial bus drivers

The California Law — Vehicle Code 21702
The hour limits for commercial drivers is found in California Vehicle Code section 21702. Section 21702 states that a bus driver may work a maximum of ten consecutive hours in a day. A bus driver may also work only ten hours in a 15-hour period. If the driver has worked ten hours during the day, the driver must take an 8-hour break before continuing to drive.

[Think. Again.]

115. Thank you, that was an idiot mistake on my part.

[Wiz Imp]

117. No, it wasn't stupid. It was a totally understandable misreading - it happens to everyone

That's why I asked. I thought you could be right and I may have misread the article.

[Danascot]

106. Here's another 'reason' for the snafu.

Trump didn't pay the bus company. It's from Xitter and I don't find any other sources of this information so make of it what you will.

Link to tweet

[Iggo]

112. Sounds made up.

[Kaleva]

125. That's what I suspect

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

114. All of his fans are dangerously mentally ill.

Delusions of grandeur & Martyr complex w a violent streak.

[czarjak]

131. Sacrifice will own The Libs?

[Cha]

121. Kick TY!

[Just Jerome]

123. Feral pigs

should be transported in cattle trailers.

[B.See]

127. What else would one expect from Trump's FASCIST AMERICA. And

they'll only get worse. MUCH WORSE. ESPECIALLY if they win.

[DallasNE]

132. The Same Thing Happened 4 Years Ago In Omaha, NE

There was no parking at the rally, so everybody had to be bussed between their cars and the rally. No lessons were loaned so the same nightmare occurred when the rally ended.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-rally-omaha/

[Ilsa]

141. Of course the Trump Barbarians did this.

Why is anyone surprised that they kash out at the people who try to help them?