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allegorical oracle

(2,887 posts)
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 06:18 PM Saturday

Anyone see coverage of "A Million Women" march today?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/christians-swarm-washington-to-pray-for-america-to-turn-to-god-by-electing-trump/ar-AA1sa7La?

Tens of thousands of evangelical Christians gathered on the National Mall in Washington, D.C., on Saturday to pray for America’s atonement and for Donald Trump’s return to the White House.

Organizers of the “A Million Women” event billed the gathering — and next month’s presidential election — as “a last stand moment” to save the nation from forces of darkness. For hours, the gathered masses sang worship songs, waved flags symbolizing their belief that America was founded as an explicitly Christian nation and prayed aloud for Jesus to intercede on behalf of Trump in November.

Lou Engle, the self-described prophet who organized the event, said God told him in a dream to call on a million women to march on Washington in order to restore God’s dominion over the nation. Engle is a leader in the New Apostolic Reformation, a movement of charismatic Christians who for years have portrayed U.S. politics as a spiritual clash between good and evil and Trump as a flawed leader anointed by God to redeem the nation.

Thousands of women came wearing pink shirts emblazoned with the words “Don’t Mess With Our Kids” — the name and slogan of an anti-LGBTQ activist group that claims library books, public school teachers and pop culture are tricking children into changing genders.
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chowder66

(9,722 posts)
4. They support a rapist, liar, felon, etc. That's all I ever need to know.
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 06:34 PM
Saturday

They may call themselves religious but it's just cover for their rotten beliefs.

Maru Kitteh

(28,838 posts)
13. God just KEEPS getting more convenient for white dudes. It's almost like
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 07:21 PM
Saturday

God was designed to protect the positions of men in power.

CrispyQ

(37,877 posts)
15. Man created God to control woman.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 09:38 AM
Sunday

They even co-opted the birth process & crafted Eve from a rib. I worked with a woman who honestly thought men had one less rib than women.

qwlauren35

(6,231 posts)
7. A chilling article
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 06:40 PM
Saturday

The author points out that many of these people could turn violent if Harris wins.

These people are 100% okay with everything that is negative about Trump because they believe that his policies will serve their interests. Some believe he’s ordained by God.

At that point, you’ve got people willing to fight, literally, for their cause.

Most Democrats talk about leaving if Trump wins instead of staying and defending their principles… literally. I can see myself donating to a militia that protects immigrants. I can see myself donating to a militia that protects the rights of our LGBTQ citizens.

You see, in my mind, if Trump wins this time, and sweeps Republicans into the house and senate, votes will not be effective. Letters to the Editor won’t be effective. Calling my blue congresscritters won’t be effective. So I will have to look at other ways to make a difference.

pat_k

(10,425 posts)
11. Fighting the Christian nationalism cancer. . .
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 06:48 PM
Saturday

TX State Rep. James Talarico is a riveting speaker on the fight against Christian nationalism and on the special responsibility Christians have to root out the cancer on the faith. I hope to see him on the national stage in the not too distant future. Some excerpts below. I highly recommend the entire sermon.

. . .
He told us we would know them by their fruits.

Jesus includes.

Christian Nationalism excludes.

Jesus liberates.

Christian Nationalism controls.

Jesus saves.

Christian Nationalism kills.

Jesus started a universal movement based on mutual love.

Christian Nationalism is a sectarian movement based on mutual hate.

Jesus came to transform the world.

Christian Nationalism is here to maintain the status quo.

They have co-opted the Son of God. They've turned this humble rabbi into a gun-toting, gay-bashing, science-denying, money-loving, fear-mongering fascist.
. . .

If this was truly a Christian nation, we would love all of our LGBTQ neighbors. If this was truly a Christian nation, we would make sure every child in this state and in this country was housed, fed, clothed, educated, and insured.

If this was truly a Christian nation, we would never make it a Christian nation because we know the table of fellowship is open to everybody, including our Buddhist, Hindu, Jewish, Muslim, Sikh, and atheist neighbors.
. . .

The closest thing we have to the kingdom of heaven is a multiracial, multicultural democracy where power is truly shared among all people. Something that's yet to exist in human history.
. . .

When someone asked Jesus to name his most important commandment, he cheats and gives two -- two that he says are related. The first is to love God. The second, he said, "Is like it: love they neighbor as thyself." It's like it because when I recognize the divine image in myself, I can't help but recognize it in my neighbor; whether they're Christian or not, whether they're religious or not. In the Parable of the Good Samaritan, Jesus specifically defines neighbor as some different from us, racially, economically, politically, religiously. God loves diversity; God loves variety. Just look around this beautiful planet of ours.
. . .

God is so much bigger than our human categories. God is not a Presbyterian. God is not a Christian.

God it not a noun at all.

God is a verb.

God is not a being.

God is being itself.

God is love.


And that's why Jesus is against anything that gets in the way of that love between neighbors, including religion.
. . .

That's why he says sinners will get to the kingdom of heaven before religious people do. Sorry to everyone here. I know you came all this way.
. . .

The kingdom of God inverts the power dynamics of "all the kingdoms in the world."

True strength is vulnerability.

True status is equality.

True wealth is sharing.

And we as Christians are called to realize that kingdom "on earth as it is in heaven," not by force, but by faith.

Jesus asked us to have the faith of a mustard seed, trusting that by living and dying for love we give birth to a better world.

That's not easy to do.
. . .

Christian Nationalists are more committed to the love of power than the power of love.

And it exposes a lack of faith because the opposite of faith is not doubt. Doubt is a healthy part of any faith.

The opposite of faith is control. When we stop trusting God, when we stop trusting love, we start taking control for ourselves.

Christian Nationalists want to control what we read, who we marry, where we travel, when we have children. They want to control our minds and our bodies.

"O ye of little faith."
. . .





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