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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJoy Reid: AIPAC's goals is to use GOP money to turn the Democratic Party into GOP-lite
Joy Reid, paraphrased - AIPAC is using money from GOP billionaire donors to remove women and people of color from Congress, and in districts where a Republican can't win - make sure the Democrat who wins will be quiet, compliant to corporate interests, and support Israel above all else.
One big scalp AIPAC already claimed --- January 6 hero Capital Police Officer Harry Dunn. Black and not compliant to AIPAC's demands.
PCIntern
(27,722 posts)On all things Israel. I dont think so.
TomDaisy
(2,120 posts)That's just a fact.
CincyDem
(7,272 posts)
that those people end up being disproportionately women and black democrats is just coincidence. Spending their money from any source in a manner consistent with their policy positions is the definition of lobbying, isnt it ?
It is hard to imagine, although some might, that AIPAC has a bullet point in their spending principles that says defeat women or defeat black democrats.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,743 posts)betsuni
(28,485 posts)DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)whether a candidate is black or white or yellow or male or female---
They only want to ensure the election of a candidate
who will be a rubber-stamp to the demands of the state of Israel.
THAT is most probably their top "bullet point".
Cha
(315,229 posts)TomDaisy
(2,120 posts)Cha
(315,229 posts)Cha
(315,229 posts)NoRethugFriends
(3,539 posts)not going after them because they are black or women, going after them because of their positions on Israel.
TomDaisy
(2,120 posts)NoRethugFriends
(3,539 posts)Maybe because blacks and women are more likely to have certain views on Israel, yathink?
obamanut2012
(28,966 posts)Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)...could you explain why you think being female and/or Black would foretell specific views on Israel?
CincyDem
(7,272 posts)Dem & republican
Women on both sides of the aisle.
Blacks on both sides.
Black women.
I think its fair to say they dont support every woman and every black candidate but these 325 candidates appear to negate any implication theyre not support some female and black candidates simply because of their gender or race.
https://candidates.aipacpac.org/page/featured/
Celerity
(52,714 posts)Including the christofash Speaker of the House Mike Johnson, Gym Jordan, ultra MAGAt Elise Stefanik, Kevin McCarthy, the crazed gunhumper Greg Steube, Ronny 'Trump's drunk Dr Feelgood'
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/18/pro-israel-lobby-group-aipac-midterms-election-deniers-and-extremist-republicans

The USs largest pro-Israel lobby group is backing dozens of racists, homophobes and election deniers running for Congress next month because they have pledged to defend Israel against stiffening criticism of its oppression of the Palestinians. The powerful American Israel Public Affairs Committee (Aipac) has justified endorsing Republicans with extremist views, including members of Congress with ties to white supremacist groups and representatives who attempted to block Joe Bidens election victory, on the grounds that the singular issue of support for Israel trumps other considerations.
But Aipacs support for rightwing politicians has privately embarrassed some Democrats also endorsed by the powerful group and drawn accusations from more moderate pro-Israel organisations that it is attempting to stifle legitimate criticism of hardline Israeli policies. Logan Bayroff, a spokesman for J Street, a group campaigning for Washington to take a stronger stand to end the occupation of Palestinian territories, accused Aipac of attempting to impose a narrow definition of what it is to be pro-Israel amid shifting views in Democratic ranks.
Their actions have made clear that they view pro-Israel, pro-peace progressive Democrats as threats and Trumpist Republicans as allies. That worldview could not be more out of touch with the vast majority of American Jews, he said. Aipac may hope to silence and intimidate political leaders who believe that settlement expansion, endless conflict and permanent occupation are harmful to Israel, the Palestinian people and US interests. Ultimately, however, these common-sense views are too popular, widespread and important to be suppressed, and will continue to gain strength within American politics and among the American Jewish community.
Aipacs backing of extreme rightwing Republicans follows its $27m advertising campaign during the Democratic primaries to defeat candidates who spoke up for Palestinian rights, mostly with attacks over issues that had nothing to do with Israel. The campaign is part of push by more hawkish pro-Israel groups to shore up support in Congress in the face of rising advocacy for the Palestinian cause within the Democratic party and erosion of approval for Israeli actions among American Jews, particularly younger people.
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hlthe2b
(111,822 posts)Hmmm. 'Almost as though some don't want to acknowledge that...
Celerity
(52,714 posts)engagement in re my replies, and if I do get it, it will probably be negative in the majority of cases.
Also, I am sure a lot of people have me blocked, based off dozens telling me they were doing so over the years, and I wager at least 3 or 4 times that just blocked me with no notice.
I am deffo not everyone's cuppa and that is ok.
hlthe2b
(111,822 posts)Historically, they have not been a "friend" to Democrats, relative to R's, no matter how supportive the particular Dem might be to Israel. I am sure some will pick and choose a race or two over time to try to prove me wrong, but there is a reason why there has been, at best, a tenuous relationship with that lobbying group over their domestic politics.
(And no, my comments are not directed to any specific Congressional race or candidate--just AIPAC's history in our domestic politics in general).
FBaggins
(28,512 posts)Point to the white male virulent antisemites AIPAC fails to oppose.
aeromanKC
(3,742 posts)Dorian Gray
(13,839 posts)they supported a WOMAN. So, if their goal is to defeat women AND black democrats, then.... not very effective.
TomDaisy
(2,120 posts)Who was nearly killed by the mob on January 6? He's a certified American hero.
tritsofme
(19,617 posts)Dorian Gray
(13,839 posts)Maybe. Maybe not. But I was just responding to the claim that AIPAC had it against women. Doesn't seem to be the case here. If the claim was that there was a stratified rubrik for whom they would help, I wouldn't have said anything.
bottomofthehill
(9,281 posts)His problem in that race was, he had no base. He did not live in the district, he had no great ties to the district, the field was LARGE, he had a lot of outside backing but less so from the people in the district. I wish Harry won, but lets not make this somthing that it was not.
sheshe2
(94,487 posts)Your concern:
Who was nearly killed by the mob on January 6? He's a certified American hero.
I agree he and other members of the Capital Police were heros that day however:
House narrowly approves $1.9B Capitol security bill after squad drama
This is how some men and women voted for the funding of the capital police. All men and women of color. They protested AIPAC but voted against funding.
The legislation was approved with three Democrats Reps. Cori Bush (Mo.), Ilhan Omar (Minn.) and Ayanna Pressley (Mass.) voting no and another three Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (N.Y.), Rashida Tlaib (Mich.) and Jamaal Bowman (N.Y.) voting present. Two Republicans were absent from the vote, while all Republicans present voted no.
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/554556-house-approves-19b-for-capitol-security-over-gop-opposition/
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LetMyPeopleVote
(171,853 posts)I have been following the Justice Democrats and its predecessor for a while including the "brand new congress group" and other groups created by Cenk, Kyle Kulinksi, Zack Exley, Saikat Chakrabarti, and their ilk. I am on the Justice Democrat email list and I have even listened once or twice to the Justice Democrat podcast which is amusingly called "Just Us" democrats. The Justice Democrats emails are fun to laugh at and I love the hatred this group shows to the Democratic Party, establishment Democrats and best of all corporate democrats. I am getting a ton of emails from Squad Members and the Justice Democrats on this race. I love the hatred of all Jews and the state of Israel contained in these emails
The Justice Democrat group want to take over the Democratic party and remake into their image. Here is the founder of this group
Link to tweet
I also do not want the Democratic Party to be taken over by the Justice Democrat group.

Again, the above posts are consistent with the hatred of the Democratic Party that I see on the almost daily emails that I get from the Justice Democrats. I admit that I enjoy the Just Us Democrat whines about AIPAC and Jews being mean.
Bowman is a weak candidate with no real accomplishments and I agree with Hillary Clinton's endorsement. Here is Bowman's voting record
Link to tweet


LetMyPeopleVote
(171,853 posts)brooklynite
(96,882 posts)When the apparent "real" Democrats show they can actually win a seat from a "real" Republican, I'll be impressed.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)...I would like to point out that your false implication of mainstream Democrats being centrist Democrats is very wrong.
Mainstream Democrats are by far more to the Left than you would like us to believe.
From https://reason.com/2024/06/21/democrats-political-views-are-shifting-faster-than-republicans/
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Provide evidence that George Latimer isnt a mainstream Democrat.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)How odd.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Wonder if she'll criticize Hakeem Jeffries, whom AIPAC also supports.
Yvette Clarke?
Adriano Espaillat?
Kirsten Gillibrand?
Dan Goldman?
Brian Higgins?
Gregory Meeks?
Grace Meng?
Joe Morello?
Pat Ryan?
Tom Suozzi?
Ritchie Torres?
FBaggins
(28,512 posts)The candidate theyre supporting in this case is well within the mainstream of the party - vs a candidate on the far left fringe of it.
NoRethugFriends
(3,539 posts)Response to TomDaisy (Original post)
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malaise
(290,423 posts)Rec
dembotoz
(16,922 posts)Sky Jewels
(9,148 posts)Its a shitty rightwing organization with a Netanyahu-friendly extremist agenda.
B.See
(7,130 posts)After the formation of its first political action committee (PAC) in early March 2022, AIPAC was criticized for backing the election campaigns of 37 Republican members of Congress who voted against certifying Biden's 2020 U.S. presidential election victory after the 2021 United States Capitol attack.
The endorsement of the politicians was described as "morally bankrupt and short-sighted" by Richard Haass, president of the Council on Foreign Relations, while Abe Foxman, former head of the Anti-Defamation League, called it a "sad mistake", and Dan Kurtzer, a former U.S. ambassador to Israel, urged AIPAC to reconsider the move.
Halie Soifer, of the Jewish Democratic Council of America, said the move suggested "one must compromise support of Americas democracy to support Israel", which, she noted in an opinion piece published in Haaretz, presents "a patently false dichotomy rejected by the overwhelming majority of American Jews."
lapucelle
(20,764 posts)AOC takes the stage after Bernie Sanders's speech at the star-studded GOTV Rally for Jamaal Bowman in the Bronx, Saturday, June 22.

Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)Response to B.See (Reply #22)
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Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)lapucelle
(20,764 posts)JERUSALEM Criticism of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his right-wing government has been heard from American Jews for a while now, but a simple 20-word tweet from the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), the largest American Israel lobby, has sent shock waves through the political establishment here.
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AIPACs tweet simply said it agreed with the AJC and added that it has a long-standing policy not to meet with members of the racist and reprehensible party.
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Former army chief of staff Benny Gantz, Netanyahus main rival for prime minister, tweeted that AIPACs statement proves that Benjamin Netanyahu once again crossed ethical lines just to hold onto his seat, badly hurting Israels image, Jewish morality and our important relations with the American Jewish community.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/american-jewish-lobby-issues-rare-condemnation-of-netanyahu-deal-with-far-right-israeli-party/2019/02/25/c90d3bd8-38ec-11e9-a2cd-307b06d0257b_story.html
Nixie
(17,878 posts)funding Hamas. Such hypocrisy about this whole dirty money issue. Only Jewish money is dirty to these hypocrites, and we know what that means.
B.See
(7,130 posts)particularly this bit:
AOC, your hands are red. Over 40,000 dead, they chanted. Her crime? Seemingly, its that she supports Biden, whom many in this movement call Genocide Joe. On the issue of Gaza, specifically, few are as supportive of their efforts as AOC, and shes ardently fighting for Bowman, who has adopted much of the same language as the protestors, even accusing Israel of genocide. And yet somehow, this group decided it is these representatives who need to be protested.
Can people possibly be more absurd?
The whole of which is pretty much QUICKLY leading me to conclude: Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
And if Biden loses the election because of it, I'm not going to give a damn either way.
betsuni
(28,485 posts)for them (AIPAC or no AIPAC), and wishing for a revolution to give them what they haven't earned is naive extremism."
Democratic voters aren't yearning for a revolution, don't think Democrats are all corrupt and the same as Republicans, don't want them replaced with the revolution people, lack of support isn't caused by villainous enemies of the people out to get them by rigging and bribing everyone. A fantasy.
Good article, thanks for posting.
Dorian Gray
(13,839 posts)(I'm not going to give them the benefit of being OF the left) are doing a lot more damage to these candidates than AIPAC.
Also, "AIPAC money" is the new "Zionist!" It's a buzzword dog whistle denoting rich Jewish people who should be opposed bc they're "white supremacists."
AIPAC AIPAC AIPAC! It's all their fault!
(Actually, in Bowman's case, maybe he's a shitty candidate for a district where he's alienated over half his potential voters.)
B.See
(7,130 posts)Celerity
(52,714 posts)multigraincracker
(36,562 posts)Tribalism. Us vs them.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)....it's working.
lapucelle
(20,764 posts)Joy's talking point is bewildering and divisive. How long before Joy starts yelling "rigged system"?
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)lapucelle
(20,764 posts)And harmful to the Democratic Party.
Sky Jewels
(9,148 posts)JustAnotherGen
(37,291 posts)A link to the day / time where Joy Reid said this? I'd prefer to hear Ms. Reid's specific words for myself.
Celerity
(52,714 posts)AIPAC, a pro-Republican, conservative political PAC, is actively spending in Democratic primaries, targeting progressives for replacement with conservative Democrats. Theyve succeeded in Oregon. And theyre not explicitly running the campaigns on the Israel-Gaza issue. Other targets on the list include @coribush @aoc @repbowman @ayannapressley @summerleeforpa among others.

lapucelle
(20,764 posts)https://314action.org/about-us/
In Oregon, the 314 Fund endorsed a Black female engineer (Janelle Bynum) over a white attorney (Jamie McLeod-Skinner).
As for the ridiculous claim that AIPAC is targeting progressive Democrats for replacement with "conservative Democrats", that did not happen in Oregon. Jayapal lost her primary for an open seat, and in the general, Janelle Bynum is running to unseat the incumbent Republican.
No money was spent in either Summer Lee's race or AOC's. As for the Jamaal Bowman race, rape deniers have no place in Congress. His apology was too little, too late.
Nixie
(17,878 posts)aren't getting away with their false framing about "replacing" incumbents by primarying them, as you pointed out.
AIPAC is also a self-proclaimed single-issue entity about Israel issues. To the extent that the Squad members are anti-Israel, that's what brings them to AIPAC's attention.
It's also quite notable that Arab billionaires get a pass even though they fund terrorists that want to kill Israelis. Only Jewish billionaires are hated. So corrupting money is really not the issue at all for the disinformation mongers.
lapucelle
(20,764 posts)Imagine calling out the 314 Fund for endorsing a Black female engineer in a Democratic primary for an open seat.
JustAnotherGen
(37,291 posts)I thought this was a news piece with context.
LexVegas
(6,929 posts)Response to TomDaisy (Original post)
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tritsofme
(19,617 posts)AIPAC money?
Just curious.
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Cha
(315,229 posts)and Hakeem Jeffries, are Brilliant Dem Leaders who don't think AIPAC is "evil like some are trying to to make them out to be.
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northern light
(29 posts)the upper hand always. Whether it is with the Palestinians or the US. They want the US to be there to bail Israel out of every dirty deed they do. Then they get to thumb their noses and say to the American people, we got you again. We wouldn't stand for Russia to do what they are doing, but money talks.
LetMyPeopleVote
(171,853 posts)I was a Clinton delegate to the 2016 National Convention and I respect Secretary Clinton's endorsement of George Latimer
Link to tweet
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I am not a fan of the Justice Democrat group

Model35mech
(2,047 posts)to have ended the Dems as the "Labor party"
Rahm who really was the wunder-kinder national fund raiser of the late 80's and 90's said this was "practical" as fund raising must go to where the money is.
SarahD
(1,732 posts)Many Democrats seem fine with Bill Clinton's third way method. He stole Republican issues and positions, then watered them down to make them more humane. In some cases, the results were not bad. This is how we got Obamacare. Welfare reform did not go as well, but we staved off the Republican alternative. My only problem is that we're pushing progressives out of our party, and we need a few bolder Democrats. I don't like the notion that our electoral losses are the fault of the progressives, and they must be eliminated so we can triumph and claim the majority.
karynnj
(60,600 posts)They are as close to a one issue advocacy group as it comes. I was at a synagogue when sometime around 2006, a group I was in invited both Street and Aipac to speak to us. Aipac refused to have a joint talk.
The spokesperson from AIPAC argued that AIPAC just supported whatever the government wanted and argued that American Jews should support it because we don't live there. Several of us pointed out that we thought it patriotic and right to argue against our own government when we disagreed and it was unthinkable that we would blindly lobby our government in support of Israel, especially when they had a right wing government. The woman after about 5 minutes left in a huff, leaving the sign up sheet behind, calling us ignorant. I followed up, using the sign up sheet, with links to back many things brought up. ( My experience on DU then definitely led to that action!)
The J Street meeting was far better. They respected us and explained why their positions were better.
As to Reid, I suspect she views everything thru a prism of white privilege vs POC persecution. While that is very real and is the root of many problems, this is not what is motivating AIPAC.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)to the Israeli Palestinian issue.
From 9/11 conspiracy theory nonsense, questioning the rapes and killing on the October 7th rapes and killings as "propaganda", voting against the infrastructure bill, raising the debt limit, etc.
It isn't AIIPAC money that will defeat Bowman, it will be Bowman's off the wall actions, but it is good they have a scape goat to blame if he loses.
Now who does that sound like to me?
Elessar Zappa
(16,374 posts)TomDaisy
(2,120 posts)Dorian Gray
(13,839 posts)now that it is getting rid of the fringe elements who are divisive.
TomDaisy
(2,120 posts)tritsofme
(19,617 posts)Nanjeanne
(6,432 posts)spending millions and millions of dollars to affect our elections through such a massive campaign That goes for any lobbying group but particularly one that is a single issue - pro Israeli lobbying group. Do I wish anti gun lobbying groups spent that much money against politicians who favor no restrictions on guns sure. But I still wouldnt think allowing this kind of money being used in a media blitz is a good idea. This kind of money is obscene and that it is targeted against elected democrats who do not support this assault on Gaza in the name of defending oneself is particularly disgraceful to this Jew.
I thought it was a bad thing to have this much money in politics. I thought we didnt like foreign influence in our elections. Guess I was wrong.
Mosby
(19,134 posts)Maybe bring the receipts next time.
Cha
(315,229 posts)to refute the OP. We've seen this kind thing before.
Can you tell us what she did say, Mosby?
TY
Mosby
(19,134 posts)Was that Bowman won't commit to support Latimer if he loses (he did lose), and might still run as a third party candidate.
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/watch-the-reidout-with-joy-reid-highlights-june-25-213694021595
betsuni
(28,485 posts)Mountainguy
(2,145 posts)Money donated from PAC isn't a secret, AIPAC donated millions to both blacks and women democrats, and almost all of that money is spent on incumbents.
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/american-israel-public-affairs-cmte/recipients?id=D000046963
Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)Happy Hoosier
(9,174 posts)For a loss, you have a shitty candidate.
malaise
(290,423 posts)That is all
