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Eugene

(67,105 posts)
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 07:11 PM Dec 2023

Busload of migrants abandoned at Kankakee gas station, told they were in Chicago

Source: NBC Chicago and AP

Busload of migrants abandoned at Kankakee gas station, told they were in Chicago

Once there, officers discovered multiple groups of migrants, some of whom had started walking down the highway and expressway wrapped in blankets.

By NBC 5 Investigates and The Associated Press • Published December 22, 2023 • Updated on December 22, 2023 at 9:12 pm

Dozens of migrants were left abandoned at a gas station in Kankakee during the early morning hours Thursday as their bus driver told them they had arrived in Chicago, leaving them stranded and alone, police said.

The Kankakee County Sheriff's office reported they were called to a gas station around 7:30 a.m. in the 3400 south block of Route 45/52 for what was described as a busload of migrants dropped off in a parking lot.

Once there, officers discovered multiple groups of migrants, some of whom had started walking down the highway and expressway wrapped in blankets. After speaking with 11 people who were still at the gas station, officers learned the bus had traveled from El Paso, Texas, and dropped the group off around 4:30 a.m., with the bus driver "erroneously informing them that they had reached Chicago, their intended destination," police said.

"The passengers, hailing from Venezuela, were left without money, food, adequate clothing, and were under the impression that they had reached their destination," the sheriff's office said in a statement.

-snip-

Read more: https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/busload-of-migrants-abandoned-at-kankakee-gas-station-told-they-were-in-chicago/3309884/

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Busload of migrants abandoned at Kankakee gas station, told they were in Chicago (Original Post) Eugene Dec 2023 OP
the bus had traveled from El Paso, Texas. elleng Dec 2023 #1
all Abbott. nt yellowdogintexas Dec 2023 #47
Likely, imo, elleng Dec 2023 #52
Abbot is showing his Christmas spirit. broiles Dec 2023 #54
Thats very near snowybirdie Dec 2023 #2
I agree, it is criminal to drop them off this way-esp. in Winter. damn. But who-or what will stop Abbott?? riversedge Dec 2023 #86
Sheesh guys, i had to look up where this place was... getagrip_already Dec 2023 #3
it's not a burb. mopinko Dec 2023 #17
You Looked It Up Wrong ProfessorGAC Dec 2023 #44
Not in Kankakee snowybirdie Dec 2023 #53
All the more reason to add that information to the article. n/t Ms. Toad Dec 2023 #66
same here. n/t Ms. Toad Dec 2023 #64
I Know That Street ProfessorGAC Dec 2023 #4
Chicago is levying fines of up to $3,000 to the migrant bus operators. Eugene Dec 2023 #5
Pushing Their Luck ProfessorGAC Dec 2023 #8
how is it not human trafficking Skittles Dec 2023 #81
They're also impounding the buses. GoCubsGo Dec 2023 #14
Send them to Mike Johnson 4th congressional Emile Dec 2023 #22
Excellent idea. GoCubsGo Dec 2023 #90
65% of the electorate in Dallas County voted Democratic, markodochartaigh Dec 2023 #38
You're right. That defeats the purpose. GoCubsGo Dec 2023 #91
send them to Lubbock, College Station, Tyler, Amarillo, or Odessa/Midland yellowdogintexas Dec 2023 #49
Send them to New Braunfels, Bandera, Kerrville, Seguin, Luling LeftInTX Dec 2023 #65
You left out quite a few communities! LOL japple Dec 2023 #68
Well them Latin Kings might be able to take care of them in those small towns! LeftInTX Dec 2023 #73
Hey, we have a Buccee's in MTG's district now. Of course it is right on the interstate, and she had japple Dec 2023 #74
PS: Does the bus driver know how to get to Hye? japple Dec 2023 #75
I don't know where that one is..LOL LeftInTX Dec 2023 #76
Hwy 290 between Johnson City & Stonewall. Lyndon B. Johnson stomping grounds. japple Dec 2023 #79
Better to... 2naSalit Dec 2023 #80
"Too lazy to drive the rest of the way to Chicago?" ShazzieB Dec 2023 #31
So it's not even in the town of Kankakee? greatauntoftriplets Dec 2023 #45
At That Address, I Think It Is ProfessorGAC Dec 2023 #46
Pretty sure it was the truck stop at 308. Ace Rothstein Dec 2023 #51
I Wouldn't Do It ProfessorGAC Dec 2023 #88
I've only passed through Kankakee so have no idea where it starts and ends. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2023 #61
Kankakaee wasn't their destination. Chicago was. That's a 60 mile walk. Ms. Toad Dec 2023 #69
You Were Correct ProfessorGAC Dec 2023 #89
It's a Love's Travel Stop. LeftInTX Dec 2023 #84
Then The Original Article Is Wrong ProfessorGAC Dec 2023 #87
The cruelty is the thing. badhair77 Dec 2023 #6
Abbott is all about cruelty, he proves it babylonsister Dec 2023 #10
Human trafficking. keithbvadu2 Dec 2023 #19
That's more like the smugglers bringing them in Calculating Dec 2023 #70
IMPOUND all buses bluestarone Dec 2023 #7
So punish the bus driver??? elleng Dec 2023 #9
I don't believe the bus driver did what he was supposed to do? bluestarone Dec 2023 #12
Not logical, elleng Dec 2023 #18
Sorry bluestarone Dec 2023 #20
If the driver had an ounce of humanity, he/she would have called the "boss" and japple Dec 2023 #27
Agree! bluestarone Dec 2023 #28
The governor, the planners, the bus company and the driver need to be arrested. Deuxcents Dec 2023 #33
How is it human trafficking? Zeitghost Dec 2023 #41
It is literally trafficking humans JoseBalow Dec 2023 #58
Legal definition is here: LeftInTX Dec 2023 #72
Human trafficking involves more than transportation Zeitghost Dec 2023 #83
www.justice.gov/human trafficking Deuxcents Dec 2023 #62
The legal definition is here. This is the Justice Dept's Human Trafficking website. LeftInTX Dec 2023 #71
From DHS Zeitghost Dec 2023 #82
As long as they aren't hurt or killed in the process. It is cruel they are left without resources. LeftInTX Dec 2023 #85
Nope. Sorry. NOT "just doing his job"! stopdiggin Dec 2023 #23
100% agree! bluestarone Dec 2023 #25
No, they don't care abiut human beings. ShazzieB Dec 2023 #35
Yes! bluestarone Dec 2023 #39
Yep, I agree...likely heard about having to let Chicago folks know about arrivals and stopped elsewhere for his Backseat Driver Dec 2023 #37
probably not his first run with this cargo (or this company) stopdiggin Dec 2023 #42
Right, again! n/t Backseat Driver Dec 2023 #48
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2023 #55
sounds pretty 'publican' to me ... stopdiggin Dec 2023 #59
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2023 #60
Yah, ve vas good Germans. Just doing his duty.... japple Dec 2023 #63
Possibly Texas taxpayers are paying for it but I am inclined to thing it is that yellowdogintexas Dec 2023 #50
Chicago is doing that. GoCubsGo Dec 2023 #15
The cruelty JustAnotherGen Dec 2023 #11
Texas sent 16 busloads of migrants to Denver IN ONE DAY... Yesterday BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 2023 #13
Maybe they are mad at the Colorado Supreme Court. hay rick Dec 2023 #29
Denver has been one of the drop off from Texas buses for a few months. BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 2023 #30
If somebody wants to throw Abbott on a bus to nowhere, I'll buy you a drink. flying_wahini Dec 2023 #16
Or under a bus going anywhere works for me too Blue Owl Dec 2023 #78
"Erroneously," told them they were in Chicago Bayard Dec 2023 #21
The repubs in congress would write them a special tax break. rubbersole Dec 2023 #40
So many nasty-ass people! Jean Genie Dec 2023 #24
"..left without money, food, adequate clothing." That sounds like Abbott or DeSatan. Pain is the message. Period. nt Evolve Dammit Dec 2023 #26
your "christian" nation at work.... bahboo Dec 2023 #32
Tis the season... perdita9 Dec 2023 #34
By their works, you shall know them. Runningdawg Dec 2023 #36
Seize the buses moonshinegnomie Dec 2023 #43
Criminal negligence on the bus driver/bus service owner Freethinker65 Dec 2023 #56
More chaos agency from the Republicans, I bet nuxvomica Dec 2023 #57
I have said something like this before. 1WorldHope Dec 2023 #67
A Very Abbott Christmas Blue Owl Dec 2023 #77

elleng

(141,926 posts)
1. the bus had traveled from El Paso, Texas.
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 07:14 PM
Dec 2023

No info provided about how this 'trip' was initiated. I'd like to discuss with some, like House Reps and Senators, as well as White House, penalties for such.

snowybirdie

(6,687 posts)
2. Thats very near
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 07:18 PM
Dec 2023

my old home. Its desolate farmland with few houses and no services. This is criminal! Those poor people need help. This situation needs resolution soon!

riversedge

(80,820 posts)
86. I agree, it is criminal to drop them off this way-esp. in Winter. damn. But who-or what will stop Abbott??
Sun Dec 24, 2023, 03:50 AM
Dec 2023

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
3. Sheesh guys, i had to look up where this place was...
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 07:22 PM
Dec 2023

Couldn't the writer at least mention it? Not everyone lives in Illinois.

Fwiw, it's a very small burb of Chicago. Population 800. It's also about 60 miles away from the city proper.

ProfessorGAC

(76,711 posts)
44. You Looked It Up Wrong
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 09:19 PM
Dec 2023

There are 3 towns that make up the population of the area. The town where they were dropped has 24,000 people, the other 2 at 15 & 18 thousand. So, around 57,000 people. About 55% of all the people in the county.
There's a Kankakee Indiana, too. But, it's not as small as 600. Probably more like 5,000.
They have TWO hospitals there. Not sure where you came up with 600. There are apartment complexes there with that many people.

snowybirdie

(6,687 posts)
53. Not in Kankakee
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 09:57 PM
Dec 2023

It's a good 15 or do miles from there. Rt 45 winds through farm country and nothing for miles except that gas station and a farm house or two. Lived there. Should have said outside of Peotone.

ProfessorGAC

(76,711 posts)
4. I Know That Street
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 07:24 PM
Dec 2023

It's about a mile north of one of the hospitals & across the river from the other.
It's nowhere near any lodging or any city services. There's a Walgreens & McDonald's right there.
I played in a battle of bands a couple miles north of that gas station.
Really confusing why the driver would let them off there. Too lazy to drive the rest of the way to Chicago?
Very bizarre choice to just dump them there.
Looks like a lot a cities are going to have to follow Aurora's lead.
Have one driver dump passengers in Wheaton or Morris, and the Rs there will scream bloody murder. It will cease to be a good idea in one Planck Time.

Eugene

(67,105 posts)
5. Chicago is levying fines of up to $3,000 to the migrant bus operators.
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 07:31 PM
Dec 2023

This is Texas' idea of a work-around.

ProfessorGAC

(76,711 posts)
8. Pushing Their Luck
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 07:46 PM
Dec 2023

Because taking people other than where they agreed to go is negligent & seems a bit like kidnapping.
Also, an area like that tri-town doesn't have the resources. Dumping them off there is even more negligent.
I can see some court cases out of this because cities like this simply can't do anything for migrants. Too small, not terribly affluent. And in winter, not even any seasonal work.

GoCubsGo

(34,916 posts)
14. They're also impounding the buses.
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 07:59 PM
Dec 2023

Which is why these poor people were dumped outside of the city. Gov. Pritzker needs to follow Chicago's lead, and institute this state-wide. The same goes for the private airplanes they're using, as well.

If it was up to me, I'd take those emptied buses, fill one of them up with Latin Kings, another with Gangster Disciples, another with Vice Lords.... and, leave them all in Dallas and Houston, just as they're doing with these poor migrants. Let Abbott and the rest of his bigoted pals see what actual criminals look like.

GoCubsGo

(34,916 posts)
90. Excellent idea.
Sun Dec 24, 2023, 01:49 PM
Dec 2023

There are plenty of them to go around. Especially given that he is unwilling to work on passing any legislation to deal with the problem, and is instead trying to lay it all at Biden's feet.

markodochartaigh

(5,545 posts)
38. 65% of the electorate in Dallas County voted Democratic,
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 09:08 PM
Dec 2023

about the same percentage as Massachusetts. About 600,000 people in Dallas County.
In Houston, Harris County, 55% voted Democratic about the same as Colorado or Oregon. 900,000 people in Harris County voted Democratic.

GoCubsGo

(34,916 posts)
91. You're right. That defeats the purpose.
Sun Dec 24, 2023, 01:52 PM
Dec 2023

I see that others have better suggestions below. I particularly like the suggestion that they drop them off at Greg Abbott's place. They ought to send some to DeSatan's place in Florida, as well, since he is also guilty of this kind of dumping of migrants.

yellowdogintexas

(23,696 posts)
49. send them to Lubbock, College Station, Tyler, Amarillo, or Odessa/Midland
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 09:45 PM
Dec 2023

those are fairly large red red areas. Let them figure it out and leave the blue counties alone

japple

(10,459 posts)
68. You left out quite a few communities! LOL
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 10:59 PM
Dec 2023

My Dad's family is from Guadalupe Co, but he raised his children (with the help of Mom, who was born/raised in N. GA in MTG's district) to be free-thinking people and to be decent and fair with everyone regardless of race, creed, religion. I still have a few relatives left who like to exercise the 2nd amendment rights and talk trash about people who aren't lilly white.

BTW: we have always been confused about how to pronounce certain words when we go to Texas. For instance: Boerne is pronounced: Bernie Why isn't Gruene pronounced: Greenie?

LeftInTX

(34,303 posts)
73. Well them Latin Kings might be able to take care of them in those small towns!
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 11:07 PM
Dec 2023

They could raid Buccee's in Luling..LOL
But there is also a Buccee's in New Braunfels.

I say New Braunfels after what happened to Biden/Harris campaign bus in the fall of 2020. Those shooters were from NB.

japple

(10,459 posts)
74. Hey, we have a Buccee's in MTG's district now. Of course it is right on the interstate, and she had
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 11:16 PM
Dec 2023

absolutely nothing to do with it. It is just because there is huge growth spurt going on between Atlanta & Chattanooga these days. Miles and miles of warehouses, truck stops, interstate commerce exchanges, easy on/off and (I hope I don't hear this come back to bite me) good ole boy law enforecement

japple

(10,459 posts)
79. Hwy 290 between Johnson City & Stonewall. Lyndon B. Johnson stomping grounds.
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 11:34 PM
Dec 2023

Beautiful country. Pedernales River. There used to be lots of peach and pecan orchards around there. My Dad and his brothers worked there building houses during the summer before the cotton was ready to pick.

ProfessorGAC

(76,711 posts)
46. At That Address, I Think It Is
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 09:37 PM
Dec 2023

Now, at the gas station I'm picturing it would be Bourbonnais. About 18,000 people there.
But, a couple blocks south that cross street is where Kankakee starts. Generally speaking, the whole tri-town area is called Kankakee unless one lives in one of the three. I can see the reporter generalizing. The county has the sane name.
My guess is they were dropped off in Bourbonnais, but the people walking would have been in Kankakee pretty quickly.
Couldn't begin to guess where those people thought they were going. Just lost & confused, I suppose.

Ace Rothstein

(3,373 posts)
51. Pretty sure it was the truck stop at 308.
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 09:50 PM
Dec 2023

Some were supposedly dropped off further north near Manteno on both US 45 and IL 50. I couldn't imagine how dangerous it was to be walking along those roads.

ProfessorGAC

(76,711 posts)
88. I Wouldn't Do It
Sun Dec 24, 2023, 08:42 AM
Dec 2023

There are no sidewalks out there.
My wife's doctor is in Bourbonnais so we've been that way MANY times.

greatauntoftriplets

(179,010 posts)
61. I've only passed through Kankakee so have no idea where it starts and ends.
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 10:45 PM
Dec 2023

That's good that it's not a long walk to Kankakee. But when you have no idea where you are and don't speak the language, it might as well be a thousand miles. If they had been told they were going to Chicago, they probably were surprised. Makes that stunt of dumping people in Martha's Vineyard look humane in contrast.

Ms. Toad

(38,643 posts)
69. Kankakaee wasn't their destination. Chicago was. That's a 60 mile walk.
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 10:59 PM
Dec 2023

(Assuming my google search identified the right Kankakee.)

ProfessorGAC

(76,711 posts)
89. You Were Correct
Sun Dec 24, 2023, 08:44 AM
Dec 2023

And 60 miles would be from there to Chicago's city limits.
One would hit southern suburbs sooner, but it's closer to 72 miles from Kankakee to downtown Chicago.
We're 60 miles from downtown and Kankakee is well south of us.

LeftInTX

(34,303 posts)
84. It's a Love's Travel Stop.
Sun Dec 24, 2023, 03:31 AM
Dec 2023

I like maps..LOL, so I hunted it down based on the address.

Also Chicago Sun Times shows a Love's Travel Stop.
South of Kankakee and next to I-57.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2023/12/22/24012718/migrants-bus-kankakee-midway-airport-texas

https://maps.app.goo.gl/5zyB7LvnNodAALqc9

Snip:

Kankakee County Sheriff Mike Downey said the office is trying to identify anyone responsible for leaving the migrants at the gas station.

The 30 to 40 new arrivals come a few days after the Texas Division of Emergency Management sent a private chartered plane carrying more than 120 asylum-seekers to O’Hare Airport. Texas Gov. Greg Abbott’s office confirmed the state is responsible for the flight, which also departed from El Paso. A spokesman for Abbott said the state was “expanding our operation” to include sending migrants by plane to Chicago, in addition to the hundreds of buses they’ve already used to transport migrants to the city since last year.

“The cruelty of Texas Governor Abbott knows no bounds, and the latest round of buses and planes sent to the Chicagoland area just shows the lack of humanity underlying his ‘mission,’” Lawrence Benito, executive director of the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights, told the Sun-Times in a statement.

“As advocates across Illinois rush to care for new arrivals, the need for federal and state coordination is heightened. This is also a moment for all cities and towns across Illinois to lean into showing what it means to be a welcoming state.”

________________

Illinois could set up inspection stations for buses at their border. Certain states still have them for agriculture inspection.

They should air this in Texas: "Greg Abbott sends migrants to a rural Love's truck stop".
It will not be well received. ("Is he trying to get them illegal jobs at a truck stop?? Isn't there prostitution at Love's??What happened to owning the libs??".)

ProfessorGAC

(76,711 posts)
87. Then The Original Article Is Wrong
Sun Dec 24, 2023, 08:39 AM
Dec 2023

That Love's is way south of town.
The address provided was missing the N or S. That's 3400 S. Where I was picturing was 3400 N.
And since the road jogs several times getting there, irs a good 3 miles apart.
This actually makes more sense, as this would have been far easier for a lazy driver to terminate the route there.
Thanjs.

badhair77

(5,182 posts)
6. The cruelty is the thing.
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 07:41 PM
Dec 2023

To abandon these poor souls, who have endured so much to get here, and then torture them with physical discomfort in cold and darkness, proves Abbott and co have no ounce of kindness in their hearts.

bluestarone

(22,182 posts)
7. IMPOUND all buses
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 07:42 PM
Dec 2023

Get out there and find the bus that did this. Go after the company and TEXAS!

elleng

(141,926 posts)
9. So punish the bus driver???
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 07:47 PM
Dec 2023

How about digging down/up, to who INITIATED this crap, who is PAYING for this 'service?' and prohibiting such.

bluestarone

(22,182 posts)
12. I don't believe the bus driver did what he was supposed to do?
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 07:57 PM
Dec 2023

Yes punish the bus driver would be a good start.

elleng

(141,926 posts)
18. Not logical,
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 08:10 PM
Dec 2023

a working person doing his job, likely unaware riders don't know where they are/are going, when the initiator(s) know the enterprise is WRONG.

japple

(10,459 posts)
27. If the driver had an ounce of humanity, he/she would have called the "boss" and
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 08:39 PM
Dec 2023

asked "are these people supposed to be dropped off in the middle of nowhere, with no one to meet them, without language to communicate, without proper clothing..." Something has GOT TO CHANGE. Did the bus driver just drive on down the road and park, clock out, have a beer and go to bed?

Deuxcents

(26,934 posts)
33. The governor, the planners, the bus company and the driver need to be arrested.
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 08:55 PM
Dec 2023

This is human trafficking, cruel to the letter. After all Abbott and DeSantis have done with stunts like this, I can’t believe there are no lawsuits or designs to put an end to this. If there is, please post it

 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
41. How is it human trafficking?
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 09:13 PM
Dec 2023

Human trafficking involves using the victims for sex work or slave labor.

LeftInTX

(34,303 posts)
72. Legal definition is here:
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 11:03 PM
Dec 2023
https://humantraffickinghotline.org/en/human-trafficking
U.S. law defines human trafficking as the use of force, fraud, or coercion to compel a person into commercial sex acts or labor or services against his or her will. The one exception involves minors and commercial sex. Inducing a minor into commercial sex is considered human trafficking regardless of the presence of force, fraud or coercion.
 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
83. Human trafficking involves more than transportation
Sun Dec 24, 2023, 03:05 AM
Dec 2023

The intention is to manipulate.

But the result is hard working immigrants being located in places where they are wanted, will be respected, taken care of and where they can add to the community and its culture and economy.

Would you prefer they be stuck in Texas? Are they better off there?

Deuxcents

(26,934 posts)
62. www.justice.gov/human trafficking
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 10:49 PM
Dec 2023

I think this site will disagree with you, Zeitgeist. It can involve sex work or slave labor but there are other definitions of human trafficking and what is going on with the transporting of people that Abbott and DeSantis are involved with is definitely human trafficking.

LeftInTX

(34,303 posts)
71. The legal definition is here. This is the Justice Dept's Human Trafficking website.
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 11:02 PM
Dec 2023
https://humantraffickinghotline.org/en/human-trafficking
U.S. law defines human trafficking as the use of force, fraud, or coercion to compel a person into commercial sex acts or labor or services against his or her will. The one exception involves minors and commercial sex. Inducing a minor into commercial sex is considered human trafficking regardless of the presence of force, fraud or coercion.
 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
82. From DHS
Sun Dec 24, 2023, 02:57 AM
Dec 2023

"Human trafficking involves the use of force, fraud, or coercion to obtain some type of labor or commercial sex act."

These people are being moved, to somewhere they agreed to go, where they will be better of...

That's not human trafficking. It's a political stunt, but in the end they will have access to more resources in a location that values them.

LeftInTX

(34,303 posts)
85. As long as they aren't hurt or killed in the process. It is cruel they are left without resources.
Sun Dec 24, 2023, 03:40 AM
Dec 2023

It also is not fair to the localities where they are dumped.

But I agree, it's not human trafficking.

stopdiggin

(15,464 posts)
23. Nope. Sorry. NOT "just doing his job"!
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 08:32 PM
Dec 2023

This was a dump and run, plain and simple. And the idea the the driver was somehow not aware of the situation - thought this was somehow okay - is frankly laughable.

bluestarone

(22,182 posts)
25. 100% agree!
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 08:37 PM
Dec 2023

This bullshit has been going on in texas a LONG time. These YAHOO'S know exactly what they are doing, and are fully involved. They carre NOTHING about other human beings. These bus lines and drivers are as bad as Abbott. No doubt in my mind!!

ShazzieB

(22,593 posts)
35. No, they don't care abiut human beings.
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 09:01 PM
Dec 2023

And they don't even regard brown people who can't speak English as human beings in the first place.

Of course, most of us would regard it as cruel to abandon a dog in an unfamiliar area. That says volumes about what Texas thinks of migrants.

P.S. When I say Texas, I mean the people who run the state, not all individual Texans.

bluestarone

(22,182 posts)
39. Yes!
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 09:08 PM
Dec 2023

Glad to see your (ps) Because we do have a lot of good people there that are living a NIGHTMARE! I just cannot imagine putting up with the bullshit they do everyday. Hat off to all our good people in Texas.

Backseat Driver

(4,671 posts)
37. Yep, I agree...likely heard about having to let Chicago folks know about arrivals and stopped elsewhere for his
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 09:06 PM
Dec 2023

passengers inconvenience and confusion at the what was to be the end of the line. Besides, it's a day from Christmas Eve. Ever drive the Spaghetti Bowl or the Eisenhower--holiday traffic before Christmas? Every driver driving like an idiot and/or distracted on their phone navigation screens. He wanted to be back home again for the last week of the year -- not on the road, contract w/his employer's service or freelance rent-a-driver be damned!

stopdiggin

(15,464 posts)
42. probably not his first run with this cargo (or this company)
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 09:16 PM
Dec 2023

And chances are real good he's every bit as big a sh*t - as his boss, the company owner - and the governor behind it.

Response to stopdiggin (Reply #23)

stopdiggin

(15,464 posts)
59. sounds pretty 'publican' to me ...
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 10:24 PM
Dec 2023

nonetheless, I won't belabor you your 'opinion' ...
However, I will maintain - and, yes, with a great deal of certainty - that this 'employee' was absolutely complicit in what was clearly an illicit 'dump and run' action. And the idea that he or she wasn't aware that this was 'wrong' (on several different levels) - is utterly laughable.

Response to stopdiggin (Reply #59)

japple

(10,459 posts)
63. Yah, ve vas good Germans. Just doing his duty....
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 10:50 PM
Dec 2023

Sometimes people have to stand up and do what's right for the sake of humanity. The driver must have known there was something wrong with this transport. And as one who lived in Germany (not that long after WWII) I am making an ironic statement about "we were good Germans." I love Germany, the country, the people, and I would live there again in a heartbeat. But they had that bit of troubling history and I hope we are going to get past all that...

yellowdogintexas

(23,696 posts)
50. Possibly Texas taxpayers are paying for it but I am inclined to thing it is that
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 09:47 PM
Dec 2023

filthy rich bunch out in West Texas that are behind the big PACS and are huge Christian Nationalists.

GoCubsGo

(34,916 posts)
15. Chicago is doing that.
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 08:01 PM
Dec 2023

Which is why they're dumping these people in the suburbs. They need to do it state-wide.

JustAnotherGen

(38,055 posts)
11. The cruelty
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 07:52 PM
Dec 2023

This is what the GOP are.

Additional trial balloons to show us what they are capable of and what large groups of Americans will allow - should they take the reins again.

hay rick

(9,607 posts)
29. Maybe they are mad at the Colorado Supreme Court.
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 08:42 PM
Dec 2023

Their spiritual leader is preaching retribution.

Bayard

(29,710 posts)
21. "Erroneously," told them they were in Chicago
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 08:22 PM
Dec 2023

I'm surprised he didn't dump them as soon as he crossed the Illinois state line.

I don't suppose there's any chance of Congress enacting a national prohibition against this cruelty?

Jean Genie

(544 posts)
24. So many nasty-ass people!
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 08:33 PM
Dec 2023

Wow! I guess we're really not a "Christian Nation," despite what MAGA World might assert. Unless, of course, the basic premise of Christianity is "Lookout for Number One, or Every Man (person) for Him (Her)self!"
I am embarrassed to call myself an American these days. Definitely wouldn't even think of calling myself a Christian!
How has hatred of the "other" become the rule? What happened to us? It's especially distressing at this season of the year, when "Peace on Earth, Good Will To Men" used to mean something.

Evolve Dammit

(21,777 posts)
26. "..left without money, food, adequate clothing." That sounds like Abbott or DeSatan. Pain is the message. Period. nt
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 08:38 PM
Dec 2023

moonshinegnomie

(4,022 posts)
43. Seize the buses
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 09:19 PM
Dec 2023

Arrest the drivers

And if that doesn’t work start reverse bussing of criminals on parole to Texas . Offer them reduced sentences if they agree.

Drop them off in front of the governors mansion


Freethinker65

(11,203 posts)
56. Criminal negligence on the bus driver/bus service owner
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 10:14 PM
Dec 2023

Did the bus gas up there for the return trip? Use a credit card? Someone can trace this bus.

nuxvomica

(14,093 posts)
57. More chaos agency from the Republicans, I bet
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 10:15 PM
Dec 2023

They seem to be engaged in a prolonged insurgency where J6 wasn't a movie, it was the pilot for a multi-season series. State-against-state is their trope of choice. This all needs to be exposed, all the dots connected, to show a party so void of popular ideas they can only make their authoritarian agenda appear a safe choice if they make the established pro-egalitarian order appear broken. I wonder if there is any higher level at which this nonsense is coordinated, maybe by donor groups.

1WorldHope

(2,055 posts)
67. I have said something like this before.
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 10:53 PM
Dec 2023

The point is the cruelty and nigyysob ( Now I got you, you soon of a bitch) However, immigration should be the responsibility of the entire nation. We can't expect the border states to do it all. But this should or could be a well coordinated effort to divide the burden across all states. What say you?

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