Miles of undergrpund shelters civilians can't use, months of fuel hospitals can't have

[Tom Rinaldo]

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All of it reserved by Hamas leaders for their "fighters" and themselves. All of it needed to fight Israel, Hamas claims, needed to resist an invasion of Gaza that Hamas willfully initiated, that Hamas meticulously planned on, for years

By intentionally targeting Israeli civilians, by mowing down hundreds of unarmed youth in fields, by burning families in their safe rooms, by tossing grenades into bunkers jammed with defenseless civilians, and by victoriously filming and celebrating their butchery while carrying off infants and elders and everyone in between to Gaza as hostages to be used as human shields, Hamas knew full well how Israel would react.

They prepared for it. Top Hamas leaders are safe in comfortable homes located in other nations. Top Hamas commanders live underground where all but bunker buster bombs can't touch them, dug in below hospitals, mosques and refugee camps. Hamas prepared well for it's own survival, but it did nothing for the people it claims to represent in the land that they govern with an iron fist. other than knowingly bringing down the fury of Israel upon them. Civilian casualties are not a byproduct of the armed conflict underway, they are the goal of the war Hamas started. First the planned slaughter inside Israel, then the inevitable death of innocents inside Gaza when Israel responded.

The loss of thousands of Palestinian lives was premeditated by Hamas. That's why they hoard life sustaining provisions for themselves. Hamas made plans to ensure their own survival, and took actions that ensured innocents in Gaza would suffer. The more Gaza civilians die the more the world demands a cease fire of Israel that will leave Hamas secure in their control of that enclave. The more Gaza civilians die the greater the chance that Hezbollah can be induced to attack Israel also, furthering the Hamas attempt to wipe Israel off the map Hamas wants civilians to die in Gaza. They planned on it.

[David__77]

1. Ok so Israel is nearly following Hazas game plan.

Very bad for US national security.

[Tom Rinaldo]

2. Yes, very bad for U.S. security

Adversaries of the U.S ,or its allies, seldom take steps that will enhance U.S. security. Nor do they take steps that can easily be thwarted or turned to their disadvantage without the U.S. having to pay some cost.

[PCIntern]

6. Israel is greatly contributed to the US national security over the years

Part of the deal is that they are the outpost in the Middle East with significant technological abilities.

And so what would you have them do? Sit around and twiddle their thumbs while Hamas plans its next massacre? It is going to be a horrifying mess, but it needs to be done.

[The Magistrate]

3. Hear Hear, Sir

[usonian]

4. My daughter asked me what Hamas' goal is.

It's Hamas.

Civilians be damned. Like any other terrorist group, or even cult.
Civilians are the means to be expended, cannon fodder and human shields, rather than the beneficiaries.
The group or cult's survival and enrichment are the goal.

It's the difference between civil behavior and savagery.
Unfortunately, whether accidental or purposeful, death and destruction are the same to victims.

[Jedi Guy]

5. "...the world demands a cease fire of Israel that will leave Hamas secure in their control of that enclave."

And this is why I don't foresee Israel stopping, the world's demands be damned. The world doesn't have to live next door to murderous thugs like Hamas, Hezbollah, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, et al. Once the fighting stops and the world goes back to business as usual, Israel knows full well it's just a matter of time until Hamas does it again. Hamas has openly stated that as their intention.

So Israel is going to stay the course and ignore the world's criticism. It's easier to endure the world's criticism than it is to endure the torture, mutilation, and murder of 1400 people. Or perhaps 2000 people next time. Or 4000. Or...

Israel is 100% done with this, and I don't blame them a bit.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

7. Well stated. This is also a recruitment drive by the terrorists Hamas.